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Out of the Cave



When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 1 Corinthians 13:11

Baseball might be the greatest sport on earth. In what other sport can abject misery turn to joy so quickly? Sitting there Saturday night waiting for Brad Lidge to not be Brad Lidge and slam the door on the Washington Nationals while listening to thousands of Phillies fans cheering on their hometown team was misery. Then it happened. With one beautiful swing of the bat Zimmerman recreated the famous NLCS moment and made all the Phillies fans feel like Brad Lidge in that moment. I am sure you have seen the picture. Pujols is in the background admiring his homer and Lidge in the foreground staring at it, mouth agape in complete and utter shock and realization at what he had just done. When the news comes that Brad Lidge has retired it will be that moment that imagine that is burned into everyone’s mind. That is Brad Lidge.  

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That moment Saturday night before the ball had even left the ballpark every Nationals fan rose in admiration of Ryan Zimmerman. Everyone stood to witness the joy, the miracle he had brought us. He had turned a sure Phillies victory into a defeat. I am sure the Phillies percent of winning at that time was in the high 90’s. With one swing of the bat Zimmerman turned what was almost a statistical certainty into an anomaly. The Nationals fans in the stands were filled with feelings of joy and euphoria. Cheers erupted in celebration of some being greater than us, one that can deliver miracles.

It was also on this day that Adam Dunn was not traded. That he would remain a Washington National. Earlier that day Peter Gammons wondered why the Nationals would trade Adam Dunn. He believed Dunn was a big part of the ball club and could help the Nationals win sooner rather than later. After the trade did not occur Buster Onley exclaimed that he was confused as to what the Nationals were doing and didn’t understand it. Onley should call his former colleague he can explain. The difference in the way MLB network and ESPN treat baseball is night and day. The ESPN analysts are still shackled in the cave watching a puppet show they believe to be reality. They do have a few good ones, but with the advent of MLB network it can be reasoned that guys like Kurkjian and Stark are not long for ESPN.

The day before the trade deadline was when the Nationals made most of their moves, and one of those moves made me sad. Not because I loved the player. In fact I didn’t care for them at all. Cristian Guzman was traded to the Texas Rangers for two AA pitchers. If they turn out to be another Chico and Mock it is a good deal. Guzman was not helping the team and him batting second was not good in any way. Despite his high average he was not a good hitter. My friend loved him. He enjoyed when he would come to bat and it was like an event in the stadium. It wasn’t some mortal being likely to swing at the first pitch and ground out softly it was Cristian Guuuuuuuuuzzzzzzzzman. He was here to save the day and get a table turning hit. In my friends mind Guzman was always the underdog hero.

That is where the problem lies. I tried to explain to my friend that Guzman simply wasn’t a good player. I pointed out his OBP his SLG, WAR, VORP, wOBA, and every other advanced metric I would pull off the internet, but he wouldn’t listen, and he was the smart one. Why should he listen to me and let me ruin his fun. It is fun to believe that guys like Guzman, Nieves, and Harris can deliver the same type of moments that Zimmerman can. We believe what we believe because we have left the Cave and seen the light. When someone new comes to baseball we try and help them to see the light the way we see it, but not all people want to. They want to live in the dark world of the Cave where Guzman is good at the game of baseball. They want to think and reason with the mind of a child. The announcer says his name with such emphasis he must be good. They want to argue not with stats or logic, but with tide turning base hits and small sample sizes.

This year my friend has come to baseball. He has gone with me to Pickles to drink $2.50 beers and watch the Nationals lose to the Orioles. We have gone to Nationals Park and seen Stephen Strasburg. He has come to baseball with a mind different from mine. He does not see things the way I do, and I times I regret the fact I see the way I do. The game would be more fun if I could believe in guys like Guzman. If I could look at the old style stats and see a good player. The term ignorance is bliss exists for a reason. We want to think the steak is a steak and not some gruel being feed to us through a tube by machines. Opening your mind to a higher level of thinking sometimes closes it to a more enjoyable way of living.    

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If you're interested I'd offer you some feedback on this one here like I did on ajk's stuff.

You’re treating baseball as a quasi religion here. If I’m honest with myself, sometimes I do too. I never know the boundary between dangerous idolatry and appropriate spiritual parable. Stuff like this makes me get philosophical about the game I dig.

Reminding people the game is supposed to be fun and trying to recapture that childlike optimism in the players can be fun. I hope for all that winning is the most fun, and I hope few management decisions (like what we’re going to pay Dunn) take but so much value in how much fun the fans find the player. For me, the way that I balance the two is keep score at the games, but try to talk to different people in the grandstands and connect to why they are there and why they dig baseball. There’s so many good reasons. Plus, I always try to be one of the loudest cheerers and rooters for my team (part of how the Batista thing came about for me, and how I came back to neutral on the Dunn signing but never really proGuzman. I’ve got enough non-statistical memories of that dude to wish him going, going gone.)

OT: Where and what is Pickles?

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.

by souldrummer on Aug 2, 2010 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Pickles

It is a sports bar in Baltimore that has cheap beer before the games up there. It is really a fun place to hangout before games in Baltimore.

I was very consciences of how I was treating baseball. Notice how I used the quote in conjunction with Plato’s myth of the Cave and used the metaphor in at least three different ways. I even tried to work the metaphor of religion into the Zimmerman walk-off.

by David Huzzard on Aug 2, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sad.

We lack that to my knowledge. That’s the kind of thing that makes Baltimore and Philly what they are: the association of baseball with cheap beer that’s moved from the ballpark to the neighborhoods.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.

by souldrummer on Aug 2, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

I might want to start proof reading. I don’t treat these posts like writing for real. When I write for real it is a multi-day process that involves printing pages out and rereading and crossing out and being highly critical of myself. Giving each word the most meaning possible and making it say what I want. I don’t need to do that every time but the least I can do is correct the basic mistakes.

by David Huzzard on Aug 2, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

My stuff was a column though, not transcendental material

Difference

Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise. (visit por favor? my website)

by ajk9hy on Aug 5, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

True that.

I took the time to respond and I’ll do my best to respond to requests for feedback and I hope others will do the same should I need to ask for feedback as well. I think both you and Huzzard are both cool. If we had an OT area, one or both of the pieces would be of interest to some of the folks here. Any things you related to baseball would certainly be worth a dry run. You’ve also got some other stuff going with a website that benefits from traffic and other publications you right for so it makes more sense to kind of encourage people to visit there. Huzzard seems to be more trying to the traditional book route and probably just wants some feedback on his writing and the values that will inform his writing.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 5, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right.

It’s refreshing but also a bit odd to see this type of material here. The perspective isn’t anything new, per se, but it’s described very eloquently. I just don’t know if this flowery piece “feels” right here, that’s all.

Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise. (visit por favor? my website)

by ajk9hy on Aug 5, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like all who wander through, you've got the choice to read it or move on.

It’s pretty unusual that you see this kind of stuff on SBNation sites, but it’s possibly an indirect benefit of some of the “keep it clean” values you see around here. Attracts a bit more sophistication and helps people realize there’s usually a possibility for quality feedback. I don’t think you’d see this on DRays Bay or Gaslamp Ball, but we’re still growing and defining our community a bit. If there’s room for stuff like this that’s baseball related, all to the good.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 5, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Patrick has always intended FB to be as inclusive as possible...

…as long as people are constructive with what they post and are (reasonably) nice to each other in the comments. Frankly, I’m impressed that ajk has been able to discern any sort of FB “feel” so far (other than extremely long sentences, of course—David will have to start stringing together more complex clauses in paragraph-length constructions to get in line with the Official FB.com Style Book).

"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3

by Doghouse on Aug 5, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I request and official rulebook

or is it like dating where I won’t know a rule exists until I have broken it?

by David Huzzard on Aug 5, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was teasing about the Official FB Style Book...

…that was just to needle Patrick about his Proust/Kerouac-tinged sentence construction. As far I know, the only “rules” are: keep it clean, and don’t spam. So write what you enjoy writing, and if it’s baseball-related, put up a post. As the pre-Strasburg radio ads used to say, “plenty of good seats still available.”

"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3

by Doghouse on Aug 5, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

My feel I've gleaned is:

Long game threads, Patrick’s tireless work, John Quinn’s links, and your WPA chart I look forward to at the end of each game. And lots of “MOAR _”. That’s the feel I’ve got.

Impressed?

(I’ll just have to learn to ignore)

Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise. (visit por favor? my website)

by ajk9hy on Aug 5, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot "groin"

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Aug 5, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

“Groin.”

"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3

by Doghouse on Aug 5, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

MOAR MOARSE!!!!

Screech's Godson
UMD Class of 2014! GO TERPS!!!

by grizzy on Aug 6, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are going to get your fill of Morse.

Hopefully he rises to the challenge.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 6, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

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