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There was a lot of information to parse through and more than a few interesting items to consider in Washington Post writer Thomas Boswell's last chat transcript entitled, "Redskins, Stephen Strasburg, Nats and more -- Ask Boswell", but three things in particular that stood out for me. William Yoder at the Nats Blog wrote about one of the three topics yesterday in an article entitled, "Boswell: I've never seen a greater waste of talent than the way the Nats have used Kasten", which examined Mr. Boswell's thoughts on the largely unremarked upon role Mr. Kasten's played in shaping the nation's capital's Nats and how his talents have to some extent been squandered. The two other items of interest, in my mind, considering Mr. Boswell's been busy talking to the team as he's produced three feature-length articles in the last eight days, are his assertion that the Nationals, "...think [Yunesky Maya is] the third best pitcher in the organization right now, after Strasburg and [Jordan Zimmermann]," and his argument, as covered in Mr. Boswell's article, "Washington Nationals need to sign Harper and Dunn", for the Nats need to extend their big middle-of-the-order bat Adam Dunn.

Maya, a 28-year-old Cuban defectee, who signed as an international free agent and officially became a part of the Nationals' organization just after the July 31st Trade Deadline, has made two appearances in the Nationals' system so far, pitching 7.0 innings for the Gulf Coast Nationals in which he gave up 3 hits total and 2 runs, 1 earned, while walking two and striking out 5 in ground ball-filled performances which earned him a quick promotion to Class-A Potomac. Maya's first start for the P-Nats is in question, however, according to reports on Twitter (from the P-Nats in response to an article by the WaPost's Adam Kilgore), that, "Apparently Maya has a blister on his thumb, [and his] start in Potomac [is] now in doubt. Decision being made today," but the revelation that he's considered the third best arm in the organization behind Strasburg and Zimmermann, (who's reportedly one rehab start away from returning to the majors), make the Maya signing and the price they paid for what DC GM Mike Rizzo described in an introductory press conference as the first major international signing seem like even more of a coup.

Star-divide

As Mr. Boswell puts it in his response to a question in the chat:

"... they really stole an international star by paying $6.5M for Yunesky Maya, 28, the Cuban ex-patriot who was their Cy Young (equivalent) winner in '09 and has been dominant in the World Baseball Classic against Ichiro and many other big leaguers."

The Nats signed 25 of their top 26 Draft picks, including their second-straight no.1 overall selection, signed the top international free agent on the market away from several other deep-pocketed interested parties, they've already extended their FOF©, Ryan Zimmerman, their first 1st Round pick, through 2013 and successfully (so far [knocks on wood]) guided Stephen Strasburg through his first professional season and Jordan Zimmermann back from Tommy John surgery, and with 41 games remaining on the schedule, they're just seven wins from surpassing last season's win total...All that's left to do is sign Adam Dunn...if that's the Nats' intention. DC GM Mike Rizzo's already stated, in an interview with MASNSports.com's Ben Goessling on Rizzo's blog entitled, "Deals for Dunn and Harper", that "the worst-case scenario" if the Nats don't sign Dunn is that they'll , "...get two first-round draft picks for him. And that's very exciting to me. Being a scouting guy and an ex-scout, that's very exciting to me." But as Mr. Boswell writes in his chat, "...at $60M for four years, you can debate the risk/reward. At $40M for three years, if they can do that deal, I think it's dumb not to resign [Dunn]."

In response to one of the many questions about Dunn, Mr. Boswell notes that Nats' team President Stan Kasten, "...is very pro-Dunn...at a fitting price, of course," and Mr. Rizzo's on record describing Dunn as, "a prototypical clean-up hitter in the lineup that hits 40 HR's and drives in 100 runs," who's also a , "...great clubhouse presence," and Mr. Rizzo's acknowledged that he recognizes Dunn, "...means a lot to us and our fanbase." So now, with the Non-Waiver Trade Deadline a thing of the past, and Dunn pulled back off waivers after he was reportedly claimed, there's only one thing left to do...If Mr. Boswell's argument for Dunn's value in the chat don't convince you, how about future Hall of Fame third baseman Chipper Jones' opinion on the Nats' big middle-of-the-order bat, which he offered during visit with Fox Sports South's Atlanta Braves announcers Chip Caray and Joe Simpson during the Nats' series in Turner Field when asked if he was surprised Dunn hadn't been traded:

Chipper Jones: "...knowing Dunner the way I do, I know he didn't want to go, and I think he made it known that he was adamant about not wanting to go, I think he realizes what a good situation he's in in Washington with...you know, they're certainly a team that's on the rise with Strasburg on the hill, another young kid Jordan Zimmermann coming off Tommy John surgery they'll have back next year, they're going to have a 1-2 punch that's unbelievable here in the years to come. They've got some good young everyday players with [Ryan] Zimmerman and [Ian] Desmond out there on the left side of the infield. I think Dunner really wants Washington to be his home, and I think he's kinda won over the brass in the last couple of weeks..."

Boswell says sign him. Kasten's pro-Dunn (at a fitting price, of course). Rizzo recognizes his importance in the middle of the order. Even Chipper Jones thinks they should lock him up. If the Nats play .500 ball the rest of the way, (they're 17-23 in their last 40 GP), 70-72 wins is a significant improvement over last year's 59 wins, and that's with close to 40 HR's from Dunn and his close-to-100 runs batted in...without him? #signDunn. But In Rizzo We Trust.

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But sign Dunn already.

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Aug 20, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

It is good to feel that the organization is at last moving in the right direction.

by David Huzzard on Aug 20, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Boz says Livo should be team MVP

That’s tough to swallow. Livo’s been much better than expected, but not the team’s best by any means. Gotta be Zim.

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Aug 20, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

How many times do I have to do the math? Zimmy = MVPlayer. Livo’s been the most consistent on an erratic, injury-plagued rotation, sure. But that makes him the best of a below-average lot of starters—MVPitcher—not the best on the team. For all the flaws in WAR, can you really compare Livo’s 2.8 to Zimm’s 6.1?

"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
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by Doghouse on Aug 20, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does Boswell ever talk about WAR?

He seems to me to be an old school guy.
But enough about that…
Will Robot-Umpire make the trip to Phildelphia before the Strasburg start?

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 20, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boswell is prone to flights of fantasy sometimes due either his love of the game...

…or desire to create discussion by being contrarian. Agree with RobBobs here.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 20, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Express, 2012 roster prediction.

Did anyone else see the Express’s 2012 roster prediction for the Nationals starting lineup? Nothing shocking given they were not gonna add free agents, but still doesn’t strike me as where the team needs to be to become a winner.

Anyway they called this the starting lineup:
CF-Bernadina
2B-Desmond
3B-Zimmerman
LF-Willingham
SS-Espinosa
1B-Moore
RF-Harper
C-Ramos
SP-Strasburg

Now, personally there were 2 things that stood out, fist was they think Dunn is going to leave this year, and then they seem to think Desmond will make less mistakes at 2nd base then at SS.

I was disappointed that they didn’t have all 5 starters and some relievers listed. What do people think? I see this as a line up lacking in power a little bit, not sure if Espinosa makes up for Dunn in the HR department.

by Alex35332 on Aug 20, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I think I'm still leaning toward Desi as SS and Espy at 2B.

I’m taking it on faith that Desi’s errors go down, and his arm is just fantastic—it would be wasted at 2B. I’m still thinking the team will sign Dunn, and that 2012 is too early for Harper. I’d say Dunn 1B, not sure who’d go in RF.

"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
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by Doghouse on Aug 20, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

on Dun and Desi/Espy. To be fair, this lineup was focused on what they think the team will look like on the night of Harpers first start, projecting it for 2012.

by Alex35332 on Aug 20, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a different can of worms entirely.

Harper’s first start next year would be after Super Two status like Strasburg’s or at September callups. Also, don’t give up on Norris for 2012.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 20, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

this exercize is useless

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Aug 20, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS

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UMD Class of 2014! GO TERPS!!!

by grizzy on Aug 20, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mostly this.

These kind of things are decent for learning about or correcting people’s thoughts on prospects lists and contract status.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 20, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes its little more than an exercise

but you rarely see a newspaper put up a bold prediction like that. So I thought I would throw it all out there and grab peoples opinions.

I am not endorsing this roster, made up by what is likely some 1st year reporter, but it does bring up a hard truth that the roster we have probably won’t be the roster in 2 years.

by Alex35332 on Aug 20, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, that's where I am at.

It’s worth noting if for nothing else than that’s a major media outlet with (10s, hundreds?) of thousand readers getting a quick dash of future Nats that may be the only time they hear Tyler Moore’s name for the next couple years. Got to be a thrill for the guy to get some recognition for that and I hope they put the stats for his outstanding season up as well. He’s already got the best RBI total in Nats prospect history (I think) and one of the highest HR totals as well.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 20, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

good for Moore, but...

history is full of guys that hit 25 homers in the A-ball and never sniffed a major league roster. we’re talking about a guy hitting .256/.302/.526. while the power spike is impressive enough, he already has shown an inability to get on base, and that will probably get further exposed as he moves up. i know i’m throwing cold water on the guy, but we need to see him at AA before he should go one anybody’s list, let alone a newspaper associated with The Washington Post.

and i’ve mentioned it before, but Bernie is at best a 4th OF in the bigs. if he’s starting for the Nats in 2012, we’re still talking about 90 losses.

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by Dave at District Sports Page on Aug 20, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe I was trying to agree with you on Moore in my peacemaker kind of way. I don’t really like coming out and saying WaPo Express is as bad as some of the sports talk radio guys even if that kind of list might be step one in that kind of direction.

I agree with you on Bernie for the most part, but again if it’s not Bernie and it’s not Nyjer and it’s not Maxwell it’s going to have to come from outside because a flawed Eury Perez is the next and maybe only CF prospect in the system. I haven’t seen enough of Bernie defensively in CF to totally rule him out. I think ruling him out for CF is based on tools and performance before his injury and I don’t know whether he’s capable of improving his defense until I see more.

If Nyjer has gotten worse defensively, maybe Bernie can get better.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 20, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Nats don't have to worry about super-two status (unless)

They have a five-year contract with him that doesn’t expire until 2016. So, no arbitration issues until 2016. The “unless” portion only applies if they don’t bring him up until 2014 — which would be a huge disappointment IMO.

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Aug 20, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Super Two status is starting to seriously baffle me.

I don’t understand how it applies to a guy (like Strasburg who got an MLB contract) but doesn’t apply to a guy like Harper (who also got an MLB contract). BLS or one of the more contract heavy guys could help me understand why you’re right.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 20, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Simple

Arbitration only applies when a player is not under contract. Strasburg is not under contract after 2012. So, if he had had enough service time then he could have been arbitration eligible when the Nats choose to renew his contract. The Nats don’t have to worry about renewing Harper’s contract ’till 2016 (per Cots).

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Aug 20, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, is Harper's contract longer than Stras'?

"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
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by Doghouse on Aug 20, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Harper signed for 5 years. The thing I’m not 100% confident about in Cot’s listing is the timing of that contract — he indicates the clock starts in 2011 (Strasburg’s started last year). If they are lying and it actually starts in 2010 then there is a possible issue with super two, i.e. they’d have to be concerned if they bring him up too early in 2012.

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Aug 20, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also think it's unlikely that Willingham will be on the team in 2012

I assume that Bernie will be a full-time LF, and Harper will man the RF slot. This still leaves CF a question mark, but the Hammer’s gonna be a FA in 2012 and probably won’t be cheap.

BTW, … “Moore”? I’m drawing a blank. They aren’t thinking of Marrero are they?

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Aug 20, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tyler Moore is leading the Carolina League in HR and RBI.

This guy probably just looked up his stats and covered his eyes when he saw strikeouts and OBP.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 20, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoever this is...

…is overly optimistic about Moore. He hasn’t shown he can get on base anywhere in the minors yet for an extended period of time. He deserves credit for upping the power and earning a shot at AA but that’s a lot to ask for him to be in the majors by 2012. Marrero was a better prospect at high A last year and he’s had to work hard to adjust to AA. Moore would have to completely dominate the Eastern League to get to the bigs to make it by 2012. Right now I think you hope Dunn is here for 3 years and Marrero’s considered a better prospect than Moore. If Dunn leaves, I’m mad if they don’t get another free agent like Carl Crawford for LF to boot out one of the outfielders or acquire transitional first basemen. I’m thinking 1B is a position that this organization is going to have get from outside for awhile regardless if they want to contend.

Willingham’s going to have a tough time making it. He’ll be a free agent after 2011. When he’s healthy he’s solid but streaky. But he’ll be awfully expensive. There will be a major temptation to flip him at next year’s deadline if we’re not contending too. With Harper closer to the bigs and us closer to contention, I’d be more inclined to flip him next year as well.

I don’t think Harper’s ready for Opening Day 2012. Burgess or an outside candidate seems more likely.

Desmond to 2B has been what scouts have been advising for awhile. I’m indifferent on where Espinosa or Desmond play as long as both are here.

As far as power is concerned, there’s more power at every position than there is in this year’s lineup outside of 1B in that lineup. Bernadina’s got more pop than Nyjer. Desmond should be a better hitter thanhe is this year. Espinosa has more pop than any of 2B we’ve got on the roster this year. Harper would have more pop than our current RF and an outside candidate should as well. Ramos has more pop than either Wil Nieves or Pudge.

More of the win improvement in coming years needs to come from the rotation this year which is part-time Strasburg, Livo defying expectations, and pray for 5.2IP from everybody else.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 20, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

My own recommendation for Rizzo — sign up Dunn. Two year deal. Get it done.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 20, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Good luck.

Less than 3 and he should walk.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 20, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 or, +3 I guess, I definitely think Dunn probably could command that on the market...

Even though he couldn’t last time and he is a bit older, just sayin’ Dunn0r, take a good deal if you get it and want to stay…

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by Patrick Reddington on Aug 20, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

#Dunnsign, as well as #signDunn

"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
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by Doghouse on Aug 20, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 years sounds like a good term. I admit I haven’t thought too hard about the term aside from get him for more than 1 year. Now that you mention it, 3-4 sounds like a better term.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 21, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

The last one a 2 mil deal at 10 per.

He clearly deserves a raise. 3 year at 12-13.5 per should seem to me to be the deal the Nats want to pay but would likely get outbid on. So they have to decide whether they want to get in the 45-70M bracket that Dunn probably wants or choose to let him go to the open market.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 21, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

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