Washington Nationals' Stephen Strasburg Likely To Have Tommy John Surgery.
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 27, 2010 11:27 AM EDT
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PrintFor the second season in a row, the top pitching prospect in the Washington Nationals' system will undergo Tommy John surgery to repair a torn ligament in his elbow which was discovered when the Nats had rookie right-hander Stephen Strasburg undergo a second MRI following his removal from a game last week in Philadelphia with what was originally diagnosed as a strain to the flexor tendon in his right forearm. Last night's starter in the Nats' 11-10 win over the St. Louis Cardinals, Jordan Zimmermann, the top prospect in the Nationals' organization before Strasburg was drafted, had elbow reconstruction surgery last August and was able to return in a little over a year.
The 22-year-old '09 1st Round pick has just 12 starts and 68.0 major league innings on his arm in which he walked 17 (2.3 BB/9) and struck out 92 (12.2 K/9) following 55.1 IP over 11 starts in the Nats' system during which Strasburg walked just 13 (2.1 BB/9) and struck out 65 (10.6 K/9) and last year's 2009 season at San Diego State University where he went (13-1) with a 1.32 ERA in his Junior year, allowing 19 walks (1.57 BB/9) while collecting 195 K's (16.10 K/9) in 109 innings pitched.
DC GM Mike Rizzo made the announcement on a conference call this morning, "After reviewing the MRI Arthrogram last night, we've come to the conclusion that Stephen Strasburg has a significant tear of his ulnar collateral ligament that will probably require Tommy John Surgery."
Mr. Rizzo and then team President Stan Kasten both informed the press that they had the results last night but made a decision along with Strasburg to withhold the news til this morning so that 2010 1st Round pick Bryce Harper's introduction would not be overshadowed. The Nationals announced that Strasburg would be flying to California to see Dr. Lewis Yocum and the Nationals will make their final decision after that, with Mr. Rizzo saying that they would, "Let Dr. Yocum look at the film and take appropriate action after that," with surgery a possibility, "maybe the next day." Asked if he thought there was any possibility that the second opinion would lead to a different conclusion, Mr. Rizzo said the team has the dry MRI and MRI Arthrogram and reiterated that the team felt there was a "significant tear", so while they'll certainly listen to Dr. Yocum, Mr. Rizzo said they anticipate surgery.
As far as the doctors could tell, they apparently think the injury was an "accute injury from a particular pitch" as Mr. Rizzo put it. Asked about reports of Strasburg suffering a similar pain to the one he felt on the mound in Philadelphia, while he was still in college, Mr. Rizzo said in that case, "He felt a little grab," as opposed to the grimace that he had on his face on the mound in Philadelphia. Asked if he was frustrated, or thought anything could have been handled differently in Strasburg's development Mr. Rizzo admitted that he was, "Frustrated yes, but second guessing ourselves no."
According to the Nats' General Manager, the young pitcher, "...is going to be a dedicated focused individual." Mr. Rizzo said that Strasburg had turned from "being upset to being really focused," on the process of rehabbing and getting himself back up to the major league level. The GM himself was confident explaining that the team had had great success with pitchers who had Tommy John surgery and, "...the success rate for people coming back and retaining their stuff is pretty good." There's little doubt, a 12-18 month "typical Tommy John rehab" for Strasburg lies ahead.
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You should have never left Montreal.
Go EXPO’s.
In all seriousness this sucks not just for the Nationals but all of baseball. It looked like you guys were about to turn the corner and someone just punched you in the stomach. Hopefully Zimmerman can comeback next year and help fill the void.
[Holding stomach]
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 27, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm so depressed. Sorry Patrick!
I’m so sorry for you guys, you love this team so much and you deserve better. Hope there will be better days ahead, eventually.
Think the Nats need to revisit their “plan.”
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
[drinks from bottle of Pepto Bismol, then hands it to Patrick]
The sky is the same color wherever you go.
by Steck It Out on Aug 27, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm thinking
some French Canadian shaman cursed the HELL out of you guys.
"Skillet, we just spent $64,000 in that bar. So we're gonna have to get jobs to cover up the fact that we rob banks" -Mouse Fitzgerald
Sure looks like it.
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by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
We still have baseball at least.
I can go to a game and believe in the game and the name on the front of the shirt instead of the back. For a city that was without the sport from between 1971 to 2005, it’s hard to believe that you’re but so cursed if you get to watch thrilling games like last night’s, the Zimmermann walkoff against the Phillies, Strasburg’s 14K debut, or the comeback against K-Rod.
There are teams with good process and teams with bad process. Bad process led us to a situation where we have lack of depth in our organization behind Strasburg. Good process is helping us to acquire players who can help restore hope. You can still root for guys like Desmond, Zimmerman, Zimmermann, Dunn, Willingham, Livo, and even bench guys who have come up so large like Batista and Gonzalez did last night if you’re a true fan of the game, baseball, and the city.
What hurts me so much is that he was such a great kid. Prior had a real badass cocky side of him from the little bit that I’ve read related to him with some overconfident quotes while he was experiencing early success both with his pitching and with his team. Strasburg was so humble, so grounded, seemed to be handling historical hype with historical class. The kid deserves better than this, and he deserves to recover and be great and be classy and be part of a winner where he is a team leader and not asked to be some kind of religious savior.
I’m still kind of searching for my own way of coping and responding to this with some degree of maturity so I’m kind of just trying to respond to stuff at the moment. I’m not even sure that’s appropriate or relevant to do my minor stuff today. It’s a discipline for me, though, so I’ll probably get around to it.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
You hit the nail on the head.
Bad process led us to a situation where we have lack of depth in our organization behind Strasburg. Good process is helping us to acquire players who can help restore hope.
THIS. Good process is building a team around Strasburg, with all the supplemental pieces so the team doesn’t live and die with Strasburg, so WHEN he comes back, its time to throttle some Braves and Phillies.
Needs moar dingerz.
You hit the nail on the head.
Bad process led us to a situation where we have lack of depth in our organization behind Strasburg. Good process is helping us to acquire players who can help restore hope.
THIS. Good process is building a team around Strasburg, with all the supplemental pieces so the team doesn’t live and die with Strasburg, so WHEN he comes back, its time to throttle some Braves and Phillies.
Needs moar dingerz.
Sorry Nats Fans
This is bad for all of baseball. The kid is amazing, incredibly unfortunate that he has to go through this so early in his career. Best of luck to him and his recovery and to you guys.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Thanks. Really unbelievably bad news even with the knowledge of how many have recovered.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 27, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
So much for 2011
Looks like Livo is starting on Opening Day 2011 again … and the rest of the rotation just got a lot thinner. And we’ll still be relying on Lannan and Marquis instead of hoping that one of them is the #5 starter. AND still hoping that someone steps up out of the Olsen, Stamman section … while hoping that we won’t have to once again go to the Atilano, Martin, Martis and Chico end of the well.
I guess 2012 is going to be the year. It better be, or Ryan Zimmerman is going to end up traded in 2012 or walking in 2013. And then we’re the Pirates or the Orioles instead of the Rays or Twins.
He’s only signed through 2012? Might want to lock him up.
I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away
by TradeAndruw on Aug 27, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
They locked him up with a long term deal a couple of years ago, bought out a couple of years of arbitration
But he’s really just going to be entering his prime years (28-32) when he is due to be a free agent.
Zimmermann will be next year's opening day starter
Or maybe Cliff Lee.
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
I'd bet money against that, and I'm not generally a betting man
You’d have your opening day starter be a guy with a handful of career starts, 18 months off of TJ surgery, and probably innings-limited on the season? Horse nostrils, I’ll believe it when I see it.
Right now he clearly has the best stuff on the staff … but I just can’t see the team going with him as the #1.
I'm certain of it.
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
The Nats have gone with John Lannan as the opening-day starter
He was labeled the ace by default, because no one else was doing any better. If Zimmermann has a good spring next year, I don’t see why he couldn’t be the opening-day starter.
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"Save it. I'm goin' for a smoothie."
The Washington Nationals, the team of the 2010s!
Right now, he's their best starter.
Hands down.
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Part of Pech's Posse since 2007.
by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Aug 27, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions
I can't believe how much this sucks.
The Nats didn’t do anything wrong.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions
Here's hoping that he's on the Zimmermann 12 month path
And gets in some tuneups late next year so he can join the rotation in 2012, ready after a full offseason of preparation.
Have I mentioned how much I hate deferred gratification?
How long
after Zimmermann’s surgery was his first rehab start?
by David Huzzard on Aug 27, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Less than a year, actually
His surgery was in August 2009, and his first rehab start was either the end of June or beginning of July this year
Given Strasburg's strong desire to keep playing, I could see this being the case...
… as long as the Nats believe he’s ready for it.
Very, very sorry from a Braves fan
Saw this news this morning and it just sucks. We had our own young stud (Medlen) go through this about a month ago, and now all we can do is wait. Granted, Strasburg is a bit better, much more known, and was slowly reviving the franchise unlike Medlen, but they both just suck.
Anytime a young player goes down witha severe injury and may miss a full season is just heartbreaking. Even though you’re a Nat, get better soon Stras!
Tim Hudson came back better than he was before the surgery due to the extra rest his arm got. It sucks, but we haven’t seen the last of him. Might be good to get this out of the way now, actually.
I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away
by TradeAndruw on Aug 27, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
If ever, early is my thought....
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 27, 2010 12:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
On the bright side, it's not the career-ender it used to be
Success rate is around 90%, and a lot of the pitchers in this year’s all star game had the surgery.
Twins Fans Feel Your Pain
As a Twins fan I know how all you Natty Lites fan must feel like. When Liriano had his issues in 2006 I felt like someone had shot my dog. It’s going to take time but hopefully like Liriano SS can regain his stuff and becomes the dominate ace.
Zimmerman, Marqius, Olsen, Livo, Lannan, ... Storen/Slaten,
then there is Wang, El Duque, Bally, Stammen, and the rest of the farm….
sad news for sure but not the end of our hopes, Rizzo has been building depth for a reason and this is reason number one. I am sorry to lose Stras for a year or so but we have to move on and get to the post season with our other horses…..trading Dunn for another strong arm is starting to look more possible now…..:(
by NewJerseyAveSE on Aug 27, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
I think where they might have been thinking of letting him go they'll keep him for next year.
He did get a two year deal, right?
He got a one year deal I believe
Maybe with an option.
The sky is the same color wherever you go.
by Steck It Out on Aug 27, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Wang is arb eligible, so if the Nats want him they can keep him
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Aug 27, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah - they could really use a healthy wang in the rotation
sorry. low-hanging fruit. can’t resist.
"hindsight is 50-50" - Steve Spurrier
by little stevie colter on Aug 27, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Tired joke
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"Save it. I'm goin' for a smoothie."
The Washington Nationals, the team of the 2010s!
Just another day as a D.C. Sports fan.
Unfortunately.
This sucks.
The sky is the same color wherever you go.
Even for a DC Sports Fan, this is definitely NOT “another day”. (I get your point…just venting here.)
by mechanicsville on Aug 27, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I totally get Steck's point.
It seems like all of the major teams in DC sports have not only lost, but lost in crushing confidence shattering fashion that was a chasm between expecations and reality.
To summarize:
1) The Redskins and Haynesworth and a second year coach were overhyped as usual and cratered. I can’t feel but so bad about that. Bad process, bad results, bye-bye Vinny and that’s about the same as the Bowden situation with the irrational loyalty from ownership to incompetence in the front office.
2) Gilbert Arenas for the Wizards. ‘Nuff said.
3) Capitals having such a wonderful regular season, finally looking like they were ready to turn the corner and the losing a first round series to the Montreal flippin’ Canadians.
4) The Hoyas not winning a game in the NCAA tournament.
I’m guessing the NCAA Terps are about the only major team I can think of in the area that hasn’t had some cloud of doom overhanging them. Somebody stop me if I’m wrong.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Soul, irrational loyalty from ownership is a staple in Chicago also.
Dollar Bill Wirtz let Pulford destroy the B’Hawks and now the Ricketts’ are giving Hendry more chances to screw up the Cubs. He’s on his 4th manager for God’s sake!
Stupid ownership knows no city boundaries. They’re all over the place.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The DC cursed lobby (and I don't think I'm part of it; I'm just bummed by a particularly bad year.)
…would point out that the BlackHawks did win the Stanley Cup and the ChiSox won the World Series and broke their drought pretty recently. Now the Cubs have a spectacularly mismanaged franchise at this moment and they have my deepest empathy. My new take on the Cubs is to realize how hard it was for them to commit to a prospect development path after getting shattered by the Wood/Prior/Sosa traumas.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
It took the Terps the better part of 15 years to get past the ghost of Lenny Bias.
by mechanicsville on Aug 27, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Eerie.
I just posted something like that below. The Redskins are still reeling from Sean Taylor.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
So true
Only place worse is Cleveland.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 27, 2010 9:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Patrick condolenses from across the MLB fandom...
Not a great way to find out the length and width of you bloggish reach…but hey… I feel like someone just hit my little brother. bummer…
With that blister on one of his pitching fingers
I doubt it.
The sky is the same color wherever you go.
by Steck It Out on Aug 27, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
it's on his thumb, and we'll see him when rosters expand.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Aug 27, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoops...thanks for the correction
It seems, though, that it bothered him in his Potomac start. I hope we can see him once or twice, though.
The sky is the same color wherever you go.
by Steck It Out on Aug 27, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Just heard long interb
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 27, 2010 12:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Just heard long interview with Rizzo on ESPN980...
Will transcribe later this afternoon….
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 27, 2010 12:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
probably the longest anyone's continually talked baseball on DC sports radio history
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Aug 27, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Rizzo put best possible face on this....
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 27, 2010 12:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I really can't listen to all of that today.
Some idiot like Dukes or Sheehan or Czaban is going to make some dumb comment about how there’s no reason to watch the team and I’m going to start wishing something happens to the Redskins to finally convince them to build a team with youth so there’s other reasons for true fans to watch besides The One True Hope.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
by souldrummer on Aug 27, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Somebody will put up the highlights.
But I don’t really want to hear the blatherers get their one day of ratings out of this nonsense and then go back to pretending that the Caps and Nats barely exist. I understand if all of this stuff is a business, but for people who are truly emotionally invested and loyal to this team it’s condescending for me to only hear about the Nats when something major happens with Strasburg. If you asked any of those knuckleheads to take us through the twists and turns of last night’s game, they’d be dazed and confused.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
by souldrummer on Aug 27, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the RX for that is building a winning team that generates
constant excitement and is competitive on a consistent basis. Considering what MLB did to this franchise and the missteps that were taken initially by the club at its inception that is going to take a long time. I think the “Plan” needs a little adjusting at this point and will necessitate genuine FA spending this offseason.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Holden Kushner and Lurch are the only people who know baseball on that entire station. And they don’t even know all that much. Bet they never heard of VORP/WAR etc.
I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away
There are many people out there that know baseball and haven't heard of
VORP/WAR etc.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Lurch is for sure. The junkies openly mock baseball and Dukes doesn’t even pretend to care. It’s your goddamn job, people.
I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away
I have to tell you, the same thing happens in Chicago when
football season rolls around. Both baseball teams can be having a decent year, almost in a pennant race, in a pennant race and sports radio will be filled with all the nonsense about mini-camp, training camp and preseason Bears’ games. Guess the NFL is just bigger than MLB, depending on where you live.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The reason NFL is king is because it's out there.
Hockey = Move to Canada
Soccor = Move to Europe or Latin America
Baseball = WTF where to move
The Wizards get much more air time too (though that may have just been Arenas last year). Just talk about something other than Haynesworth.
I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away
The comp for this is the ChiSox during their World Series run.
The ChiSox don’t seem to me to be the team of Chicago (correct me if I’m wrong. How many ChiSox fans were here for the Obama game? How many Cubs fans were here for the Cubs series?).
The Cubs are known for their August/September struggles. How did Blackhawks coverage compare to Caps coverage during the year? How does Cubs coverage during the offseasons of the other sports compare?
This is so far from being a baseball town. I understand why. It’s frustrating that this sets the team back a bunch.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
ChiSox have a much smaller fan base than the Cubs.
The town seemed to be pretty B’Hawks crazy this year. I live in Atlanta, though, and I can only gauge the interest by the Chicago television stations that we get on the sattelite. I don’t know what was going on in Chicago radio.
I would imagine the Sox got more radio coverage during their WS run since one of the sports talk stations is also the Sox flagship station. As you know, the Cubs are on WGN and they get a lot of attention, but WGN is also quite Bears crazy.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, you couldn't escape Blackhawks coverage...
WGN radio does their radio broadcasts, and the entire station devoted lots of coverage of the the Hawks. For awhile, instead of the regular hour tone, they had the horn that sounds at hockey games. The Chicago Trib had lots of coverage. The media in my city, Rockford had lots of coverage, because 1) we’re in the same region and 2) the Hawks minor league team is here.
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain
Well, after 49 years, they deserved a little love!
Unfortunately, the way they’ve sold off the team, it’s going to be at least another 49 before they win again.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked when Dukes didn’t know there were two Zimmermans on the team and thought the caller was stupid.
I fed a fish to a pelican and Frisco bay and he tried to eat my cell phone he ran away
Wow, that's bad.
No one pays any attention to the Nationals unless it’s bad news, you guys are right.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I really dislike the sports radio in this town. Everytime someone calls in to talk about something they don’t know they use the same excuse that no one cares. I know i tuned out long ago and I am sure there are others like me.
by David Huzzard on Aug 27, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw this on another message board and I think it sums up how everyone feels ...
Hope it gives you a chuckle, if not, my apologies.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
Ahhh, the Griffins. They had a contest to see who gets the last piece of pie…whoever yacks last after drinking ipecac syrup. Classic. If you can find the video, it’s a must see.
Now pardon me while I cry myself to sleep this early in the afternoon.
Niners cut [insert name here]... days later [insert same name] signs with Seahawks. One man's trash is another man's Seahawk.
by Andrew Davidson on Aug 27, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Lord, I forgot how funny that was.
Thanks for the link … I really needed that!
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Any chance we get a small ray of sunshine today and hear an announcement of Rob Dibble’s dismissal from MASN?
man, is he gettnig raked over the coals on teh twitterz today.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Aug 27, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Good question. Haven’t seen him in the booth since his first comments on SS.
by mechanicsville on Aug 27, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be nice if Dibble did the classy thing and resigned.
One of the reasons why I lobby for more intelligent fans in a more unified lobby is so that somebody could make it clear to MASN that 500 to 1000 of their more committed frequent viewers have some degree of consensus on issues like Dibble.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Hey it is what it is.
They can do whatever they want with Dibble. If they keep him around, I won’t listen to him because I don’t listen to him anyway. If they get rid of him, it’s hard for me to see a superior replacement coming anyway. He’s on record with the most idiotic statement about the Strasburg thing followed by a statement that aroused some negative comment amongst a fanbase the Nats covet. I don’t think they brought Dibble around to make an appearance at the Ladies Night event yesterday.
What they do with Dibble is pretty irrelevant today, though, and I probably shouldn’t be writing about it too much. I’ll still probably go to the park tonight. I may go tomorrow. I’ll still enjoy it when they win, especially if it’s young guys contributing to a spectacular RedBirds fall.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Some of the highlights from the Rizzo article are here:
The Early Lead transcribed some stuff. I’m sure Patrick will transcribe more. He’s diligent that way.
For the fans of Dibble, it doesn’t look too good. Here’s what Rizzo said:
“I have no problem with Rob Dibble. He’s a baseball guy, but honestly I was upset by the comments. He made uninformed comments. The media has the right to dive in and say anything they want about performance on the field and believe me I’ve got no problem with criticism about the way I handle business. …
“When you go into a guy’s commitment [on the field], that’s a slippery slope.”
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Just saw Rizzo, Kurkijan and Shenin on Outside the Lines.
Consensus seems to be that the Nationals did all they could. They didn’t talk about Stras’ change-up, though. Maybe that was the magic pitch that did the damage, I’d hate to speculate because we’ll proably never know.
My husband pitched semi-pro ball and coached Little League for twelve years. He feels that kids are throwing curve balls too early. He’s seen it a lot while coaching Little League. It would be interesting to find out whether any of these guys that ended up with TJ surgery started throwing curves before they were 15 or 16 years old.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Just posted Rizzo interview on front page where mentions changeup...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 27, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed he is. And he deserves every bit of it. Dude clearly either isn’t very smart or doesn’t much care about the long-term viability of his gig with the Nats.
by mechanicsville on Aug 27, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Dibs is pretty much done with the Nats after this whole thing.
StanK’s comments would seem to suggest that.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d be interested to see if the Nats can put their foot down even though Peter Angelos’s son runs MASN.
I think Dibs will make the decision to leave considering how this whole thing
played out. He’s extremely thin-skinned.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in the minority here, I like the guy.
I accept him for who is so his comments don’t bother me.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m hoping that this is just the team preparing everyone for the absolute worst. Another top pitching prospect needing Tommy John surgery? This is straight up shull bit. What’s next? Things can’t get much worse. I feel like breaking something, punching someone or drinking a 40 of gin. Maybe I’ll do all three. ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
Niners cut [insert name here]... days later [insert same name] signs with Seahawks. One man's trash is another man's Seahawk.
by Andrew Davidson on Aug 27, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
Andrew, I suggest the Family Guy episode where Lois leaves them all and Stewie's
diaper is amazing … ah, another classic!
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you referring to the episode when Lois goes to jail? If so, I just watched it last night.
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by Andrew Davidson on Aug 27, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't remember, I just know that episode with Stewie's diaper was a scream.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
She was in jail? Is that why she was gone?
OMG, I laughed so hard it hurt!
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
longer clip of the same episode (lesser quality)
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by Andrew Davidson on Aug 27, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks! That whole episode was ridiculous, It was so funny.
The diaper thing was the culmination.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Whenever I'm really bummed,
I make it a point to listen to some Chandler Travis Philharmonic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuPOi-BvmR0
It helps.
Some.
...I literally feel like crying. I can't believe our worst fears have been confirmed.
Rotation next year?
Zimmermann, Maya, Marquis, Livo… ? UGH. The thought of not having Strasburg is so upsetting. Awful day for D.C.
There's competition at the back end of the rotation.
Too much speculation for too far in advance can lead to false expectations either way. (Is that a new John Wall avatar by the way?)
You take things one day at a time. You root for the kid and pray and hope for his recovery. You root for the name on the front of the jersey before the name on the back. You focus on little things and celebrate games like last night’s victory.
This tragedy, unlike ones that the Terps fans have gone through (Len Bias) and the ’Skins fans (Sean Taylor) still pales in comparison to those.
Strasburg is a human being who has provided a lot of joy that can’t be taken away. Likewise, I trust that he will do everything he can to come back and be great and the team will not suddenly abandon it’s commitment to winning.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Yeah, we'll just have to see how it plays out but this definitely holds us back a few years
not having our ace. Yes it’s a new John Wall avatar!! :)
Very true that this pales in comparison to the Taylor tragedy.
I know our team will continue to grow and our younger players will get better but it’s just very disappointing.
IT'S OBAMA'S FAULT!
Everyone who bashes Kendall..... he is a damn good catcher. Very smart behind the plate. He has great BAT CONTROL, which makes him a good top of the order hitter.
I'm a proud "studs fag" since 6/20/2010... are you?
I hate to say it
But trading Dunn for Daniel Hudson would’ve looked brilliant right about now.
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by Andrew Davidson on Aug 27, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions
This is insane
I’m out of the country so I’m a little out of the loop these days on nationals news, I won’t lie when I read this I gasped like a little girl and almost fell out of my seat.
CENSOR WARNING
I think we all felt as frustrated as Steve Martin in Plains, Trains and Automobiles when we heard this news. I definitely used as many F-words.
by Andrew Davidson on Aug 27, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL!
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, been head-down at work all day and just saw the news.
This = teh suk.
Frankly, the only thing that will take the edge off is completing the sweep of the Cards. Let’s go Nats go!
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
I don’t even think that will work. this is like going out on an amazing date with an extremely hot girl, getting the best BJ of your life, and then three weeks latter finding out she is a man.
by David Huzzard on Aug 27, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Post of the day.
That’s all I’ll say about it.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
MOAR Family friendly please, people of all ages read this site...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 27, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
We have a Bennett situation.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
I concur. But I'm sure Riggleman is going to get blamed for this because of Kerry Wood.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
But we haven't pushed him to his limit.
There’s the pitch count and the number of innings limit.
if anything, we’ve been “babying” him. I don’t see how this is anyone’s fault but it’s just bad luck.
Just like Baker got blamed for Volquez last year, and he was never really pushed like Wood either
Aim for the head baby Jesus
I know, I'm just saying that there will be people out there that will say Riggs did this.
My husband has always suspected that Riggs twists his pitchers arms while they’re sitting on the bench. It’s the standard family joke in our house because we don’t hold Riggs responsible for Kerry Wood either.
I’ve even seen some real bright individuals that blame Prior’s injuries on Riggleman. You can’t confuse them with the facts because they won’t believe you.
Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.
by Princess Jazzy on Aug 27, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I know it's brutal right now...
but in a year, you’ll all be looking forward to his return, and wondering if the form will be the same, etc. We here in Minnesota went thru the same thing with Francisco Liriano, and he came through OK. He is nearly back to form, and his slider is pretty wicked again. He two-hit the Rangers through seven last night.
This too shall pass.
"It is what it is until it isn't. And it isn't isn't yet."
by phan_o_twins on Aug 27, 2010 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Appreciate you stopping by.
I know the Twins are my AL team of choice after the Capps trade. Guess this is only another thing that would bind the franchise. Of course, if you would truly like to ease our pain please give us Joe Mauer at pennies on the dollar as reparations for losing Harmon Killebrew and the original Senators. ;-) (kidding of course, enjoy Mauer and the rest of your talented team)
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
This might not be the right time to ask
but I’ve always wondered how DC fans feel about the way the Twins franchise handles Senators players and records.
I'd already been feeling bad all day
and this news doesn’t help.
Anyway Go Twins! – I liked Minny before Capps went there. We’ve got friends in Minneapolis and visited with them this June.
As for the home team, I hope Jordan Z shows some good stuff before the season’s out.
The worst part is all my friends texting with condolences like my grandmother had died.
It does feel like something had died, like 2011.
by The Herndon Kid on Aug 27, 2010 5:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sadly this would proably be the best rotation the franchise has had...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 27, 2010 5:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Condolences from Braves Country
I watched every pitch of the debut and made sure to hold onto the scorecard for posterity. Watching Strasburg pitch has been one of the highlights of 2010.
"All I'm asking for is what I want."
-Rickey Henderson
+1, that debut was one of the best games I've ever experienced...
And a glimpse of what Nats Park might be like if the Nats ever compete…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Aug 27, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
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