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Searching for Sunshine: 8/8 Nats Minor League Report; 8/9 Minors Tracker

Tough Sunday for us yesterday in Natstown with Jason Marquis continuing to rack up cringe inducing losses. The kids on the farm continue to labor on their path to The Show. Natsfarm.com has their weekend summary up of all the doings in the minors. One of the interesting links on Natsfarm.com's weekend summary was Harrisburg reporter Geoff Morrow's  perspective on Espinosa's callup.  One team's gain is another team's loss and I can understand why their perspective is different. Morrow also attaches some names to my fears about promoting players too quickly.

Under former GM Jim Bowden, the Nationals built a reputation of rushing certain position player prospects, possibly causing longterm harm. Think Bill Rhinehart and Leonard Davis.

I still don't have any problems with Espinosa's callup. I was slightly surprised at the timing right after his 3HR game, but I hope that he will help Syracuse to a strong finish while cementing his prospect status.

April Whitzman's Nationalsprospects.com has her summary of Sunday's games top to bottom.             

Yesterday's upper minors results after the jump.

Star-divide

 

AAA Syracuse: Matt Chico and the Chiefs win 7-4 over the Rochester Red Wings.Many familiar names and prospects contribute to a Chiefs 7-4 win.

  • Fan favorite Boomer Whiting, OF: 1-5, K.
  • Fan favorite Michael Martinez, 2B: 0-4.
  • Danny Espinosa, SS: 1-3, 2R, 2R HR, 2RBI, BB. Espinosa's doing everything he can to make his case for getting into the DC mix. So far, he's 3-12 with 2HR and a BB in 3 games at Syracuse.
  • Wilson Ramos, C: 1-4, 2R, K
  • MOAR Pete Orr, 3B: 2-4, 2RBI, K
  • Leonard Davis, 1-4, R, 2R HR, 2RBI, 3K. Once upon a time, Leonard Davis was Minor League Player of the Year for the Nationals in 2008. He's struggled some at the higher levels, but looks to be stabilizing himself as a AAA player this year.
  • Fan favorite Matt Chico, LSP: Win, 5.2IP, 8H, 4R, BB, 2K, HR. Chico has a 3.88 ERA now at Syracuse.
  • Atahualpa Severino, LRP: Hold, 1.1IP, 1H, 1BB, 2K Hualpa's ERA is now at 3.52 and he remains on the radar as a potential internal LOOGY.
  • GW's favorite Josh Wilkie, RRP: Save, 2IP, H, 2K. I continue to lobby against all hope for a callup for undrafted free agent and GW grad Josh Wilkie.

AA Harrisburg: Aaron Thompson, the starter obtained in the Nick Johnson trade, continues to frustrate. He should be on our prospect lists, but it will be hard to put him there after his struggles at Harrisburg. His teammates overcome his weak start, though. Harrisburg beats the Altoona Curve 9-6 to raise their record to 61-54, 5.5 games back in the Western Division of the Eastern League. Chuck James, yes that Chuck James formerly of the Atlanta Braves, got the win with 3IP of 1 run relief. Cole Kimball earned his 4th save for Harrisburg. I'm not familiar with Kimball, but I'm going to start caring about him a bit more. He seems to be a classic case of one of those power arms that you covert to relief when they struggle in longer stints. He's got 78K in only 66.1IP combined between Potomac and Harrisburg.

  • Aaron Thompson, 5IP, 4H, 5ER, 5BB, 6K, 2HR. Not too good. 
  • Chris Marrero, 0-4, 2K

High A Potomac: Potomac wins 4-3 to go 5-1 on a road trip and extend to a 1.5 first place lead in their division. Potomac is a bit older than I'd like to see right now, but it's good to see some of our young players contributing to a playoff push. Today was kind of a patched together pitching effort from minors journeyman and recent acquisition  Jimmy Barthemaier making a spot 3 inning start. Tyler Moore is a man that I'd be interested to learn more about from Brian at Natsfarm or Sue Dinem at Nationalsprospects. He's had a major late season surge to vault his stats to .298/.510/.808 but the low OBP raises concerns to me that he might have holes in his swing that can be exploited at AA Harrisburg.

  • Stephen Lombardozzi, 2B: 1-5, R, K
  • Michael Burgess, RF: 1-3, RBI, BB, K
  • Derek Norris, C: 0-3, BB, 2K, 1SB against
  • Tyler Moore, 1B: 2-4, R, RBI

Low A Hagerstown: Hagerstown split a doubleheader with Kannapolis, losing 5-4 in the first but winning 9-4 in the nightcap. Paul Demny got hit around in the opening game, although his defense didn't help him very much. Eury Perez made an error in center and catcher Adrian Nieto made a throwing error on a stolen base attempt to contribute to a 5R Kannapolis 2nd inning. Demny didn't help his own cause, though, with a bawk and a wild pitch in the inning. JP Ramirez had an outstanding doubleheader going 5-7 overall with a double and a HR. Hopefully he can improve his defense. This 20 year old 2008 15th round draft pick has hit better this year in his second year at Hagerstown posting a line of .340/.447/.817. Hagerstown is kind of a testimony to how little you can tell from minor league records. Their 16-27 second half record puts them last in their division, but Hague, Ramirez, and Bloxom (and Perez and Hood to some extent) seem to be either on pace or improving players deserving promotion to Potomac.

  • Rick Hague: Game 1, SS: 0-4;  Game 2, DH: 2-4, 2R, 2 2B, RBI
  • Adrian Sanchez, 2B: Game 1, 2-3, 2R, K; Game 2, 2-4, R, RBI
  • JP Ramirez: Game 1, DH: 2-3, 2R, 2B, 2run HR, 2RBI, K; Game 2, LF: 3-4, 3R, RBI, GIDP
  • Sullyzz favorite Destin Hood, RF: Game 1, 1-3, 2RBI, picked off by catcher; Game 2, 1-3, R
  • Eury Perez, CF: Game 1, 0-3, fielding error; Game 2, 1-4, R

Looking forward to your feedback and hopefully we'll get some wins and outstanding performances from the kids tonight while the adults are out on the town.

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I am quite glad we have Chuck James in our organization!

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Poor Chuck James.

I guess he’s trying to convert to a reliever. He’s actually been pretty successful in the role at AA. I have no idea what his contract status is for next year, and I hope he can channel his inner Peralta or Doug Slaten. Tough keeping track of all the bullpen arms in the minors with fluid closer roles and smaller sample sizes. I remember last year getting all worked up over guys like Zech Zinicola and they have drifted off into the great beyond (to my last recollection) or at least off the prospect radar.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure its just weird that he's almost ten years older than the rest of his teammates.

If he could be productive though, that would be awesome. Also, check your inbox.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Read an interesting post on Minor League Ball from a couple days ago

discussing where Espinosa ranks as far as SS prospects (I saw some of your comments on there, SD). Unfortunately it was far from an unbiased discussion, so I thought maybe we could take a stab at one.

I would be surprised if Espinosa was called up in September unless he really mashes in Syracuse for the rest of the month, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he made the team out of Spring Training.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

So do you see him essentially following the Desmond route?

I think that’s how it goes?

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you consider the Desmond route?

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps (a late season callup and then making the club out of Spring Training)

Also I agree with what seems to be the common sentiment that Desmond moves to 2B next year. He has excellent range, but I just think Espinosa is more sound defensively and a move to second could help Desmond cut down on some of his terrible throws.

I also don’t believe Desmond is truly capable of “quarterbacking” a defense the way a SS needs to. Some will disagree, but he has showed a lack of understanding on so many routine plays that I question his ability to truly play SS in the majors.

I know people will disagree with the last point, but that’s how I feel and I don’t believe Desmond has given any of us any reason to believe otherwise.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also don’t believe Desmond is truly capable of "quarterbacking" a defense the way a SS needs to.

Now that’s a very interesting point that I haven’t really heard too much. What kind of quarterbacking does a SS do?

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The kinds of plays I'm referring to

are things like yesterday, covering second base on a hit and run with a right-handed batter up (which should always be the responsibility of the second baseman).

Other plays like the failed double steal, mistakes on pickoffs, etc. are the kinds of mental errors Desmond makes on plays that are a shortstop’s responsibility.

Bad throws are one thing- but we have already established that Desmond’s range allows him to attempt a lot of difficult throws that other players would just watch roll into the outfield (Not very much unlike Zimmerman’s 23 errors a couple years ago, which I didn’t really hear a lot of people crying about). The mental mistakes and seemingly total misunderstanding of how to play one of the most important (and complicated) defensive positions on the field is what makes me thing we need to move Desmond to 2B.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that you want to have Espinosa spend a half season at Syracuse next year.

I feel that it’s very important to be patient with players. Having him jump to the bigs with only a month of at bats says that you think he’s got no holes in his game and that he’s an elite prospect who will radically alter the fortunes of his team by having him play up in the bigs earlier. I have a hard time making that claim with Espinosa yet. The power at shortstop is unquestioned. From what I’ve seen the glove looks good as well. But the strike zone discipline and OBP raise concerns that I’d like to give him an opportunity to work on at AAA first.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The shortstop makes the call about which base to cover,

and things like hitters tendencies and pitch selection are taken into account. And, also, by the way, there’s a bit of subterfuge involved in the play because you don’t want the offense to try to aim to the “expected” hole on a hit and run. So, while the second baseman would USUALLY cover the bag on yesterday’s play, it’s by no means a given. To try to use this as an example of Desmond’s (lack of) ability to run the defense is really stretching it.

Rob

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by RobBobS on Aug 9, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm assuming that you menat the thread by Daggerrrrrrr as a fanpost?

This was a really weird thread. The handle of the guy who started the thread seems to mean he’s a Steve Buckhantz Wizards fan because that’s his trademark call. His profile, though, only has one site, the minorleagueball.com site. You wonder if he’s one of those guys who has multiple profiles and has gotten into trouble with one of the other ones. Just speculating.

Some of the comments were interesting becasue you started getting a list of other shortstop prospects. My take on that was Espinosa’s a top 5 shortstop prospect in a relatively weak shortstop class. That probably makes him somewhere between Top 40-Top 100 depending on how much you believe in him as a prospect.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree with all of that

Impressive, nonetheless considering Espinosa wasn’t on any Top 100 preseason lists (at least not that I saw) entering the season. The SS class is weak (nearly every capable SS is either not projected to be one in the bigs or is someone like Machado, who we haven’t seen enough from yet)

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which lists do you look at, just curious?

He was 101 on Baseball Prospectus’ list. There was a lot of buzz around him from scouts at the AFL last year according to Sickels.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I personally only regard only BA and Sickels, and Perfect Game for college/high school.

Partially because I’ve met some really nice guys from BA and really trust their content, and because BP makes me go eh. Don’t know why, but meh.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember I'm an older soul in some ways...

…who still likes print media, especially when I’m in motion on Metro and at games. BP Prospectus works well for me for those purposes. I’m not really ready to fork up the dollars to subscribe to anybody’s anything so I tend to get the scraps and leavings of insider stuff filtered to me through Sickels and elsewhere. For the moment, absorbing all the content at Sickels is enough work for me. A BA subscription is probably in my future at some point. There’s plenty of times when I’ve checked out the print edition in bookstores.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

BA is pretty expensive, so if you want to share let me know.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha.

I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m all for sharing, so if you’re interested in MLB Radio or any premium stuff, hit me up because I’m probably interested too.

I’m a frugal type so I only have a subscription to a UVA-specific site and my soccer team’s content-pass. And I almost regret it, haha.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always look at Baseball America's

and I used to look at Keith Law’s, before my Insider account expired

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Insider really worth it?

I’m mulling giving it a try through the ESPN Magazine offer, maybe I can sell my magazines to cover some of the cost! haha

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cannot stand ESPN the magazine, though.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha I'd sell them to a sucker if I could.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed having it

mostly so I could have access to Rumor Central. It was one of those things that I liked while I had it but I haven’t regretted letting it expire.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what I've heard Rumor Central is the worst part of Insider.

I’m just curious to know what else is in there. I figure I’m going to order the magazine yearly and try and sell the magazines to offset the cost of the insider subscription.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't find Buster Olney's random facts and figures each day

to be worth reading. A lot of the preseason rankings and prospect stuff are Insider only, though.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll read anything not from Olney or Mel Kiper.

I figure…

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was hysterical, haha.

I think Espinosa’s legit, but I mean you have Colon, Machado, Beckham, and other guys they listed in front of him.

Am I supposed to think that Beckham will finally turn into a 20-20!!!..???

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just found this online

but apparently Baseball Prospectus ranked Espinosa as a better prospect than Desmond in January.

“Espinosa will be a good starting shortstop who might hit 20 home runs and steal 20 bases, but hit .250 while doing it.”

Sounds dead on to me.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

That makes a lot of sense to me.

I forget that there is not that different age wise sometimes. Desmond will be 25 on September 20th. Espinosa turned 23 on April 25th.
Desmond had an odyssey to the bigs, though.
2005 and 2006 – He was beloved by Frank Robinson and Bowden. That was when they were comparing him to Jeter and rushing him everywhere. As a 3rd round high schooler, they promoted him every half season, which in hindsight seems horribly irresponsible. The air went out of the balloon with a .446 OPS is in 121 at bats at AA.
2007 – He got demoted to high A Potomac to start the year. Decent year at .289
2008 – The injury bug bites. Decent but now overwhelming .728OPS season at Harrisburg in 323 at bats that has him barely on the Nats Top 20 lists.
2009 – Break out of nowhere. He goes ballistic at AA Harrisburg. Even after missing time due to injury he goes ballistic at AAA Syracuse and manages to keep the train rolling with a strong September callup. Given his age he earned his way into the spring training discussion and cemented his status with the strong spring training for 2010.

Desmond had a real odyssey to get to the bigs though and I hope that we never do what he did to him as a prospect under Bowden again. His early promotion to Harrisburg was irresponsible Bowden trying to make a bad farm system look halfway decent more than doing what was best for the kid.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting

but I think we all can agree that Jim Bowden ran the farm system into the ground. Horribly mismanaging nearly every single prospect he could get his hands on.

Rizzo, on the other hand, has discovered and developed so many top players, especially during his time in Arizona, that I have tons of confidence in his ability to spot talent and develop it. I’ve personally been blown away by a couple of the trades he’s made, but there should be no doubting his understanding of how to properly develop a player.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Desmond, Rhinehart (in high A now, so sad), and Davis (took him awhile just to bounce back to AAA)

…are some of the biggest casualties of the Bowden regime. Ultimately, it’s the player’s responsibility to rise to the challenges and not let the promotion schedule derail you from the bigs. One of the reasons I like Desmond is that he’s so high energy and full of hustle. Every time he makes content, he is motoring out of the box thinking double. His errors are errors of wanting to do everything to win. I think the 2B move will work well for him because it will narrow his focus to simpler plays and throws at 2B and allow him to focus on that skill set. Regardless, if they consider Espinosa a closer to elite prospect at SS, Desmond better be prepared to move at some point next year.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think there's some truth to your statement about players rising up to the challenge,

But I also think that you need some sympathy there (which I know you possess, but I’m just saying this in regards to your comment I’m replying to). I do think there’s a difference between being conservative, positively agressive, and Bowden-aggressive.

Hopefully we’re in the middle— just like in a lot of other things, I don’t think its good for prospects to get in over their heads.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to mention confidence

I hate to think how those players felt when they are out of their depth. Being called up too soon can wreck a players confidence and sap mental strength. While I agree that good players are mentally strong players- it takes time to develop and mature (as we all do as people)…and these young guys need to be confident playing the game. Would be nothing worse than getting praise heaped on you, called up a level and then get smashed by your peers for underperforming.

Ian Desmond is my hero!

by Mezza on Aug 9, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Desmond could just as easily hit 20 and steal 20.

Not this year, of course, but he’s surely got pop in the bat, and he’s got pretty good baserunning instincts. The pieces are there to match the numbers tossed around about Espinosa.

Rob

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by RobBobS on Aug 9, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're certainly higher than I am on Desmond then.

I’m not a scout and my knowledge focuses a lot on the box scores and the few games that I’ve seen in person. Here’s Sickels prospect profile on Desmond from 9/17/09. Desmond hasn’t really ever earned a grade much higher than a C+/B- on most boards. His performance this year is pretty consistent with that. In that article Sickels comments on how last year’s performance was helped by an extremely high BABIP and that the jury was still out on how much was luck and how much was an improved approach. There’s still ball to play this year and he’s certainly earned even more at bats for next year, but I think the prognosticators were pretty much correct. Glove will improve as he gets comfortable at this level (sounds like he went through something similar in the minors). Plate discipline will be an ongoing struggle. But he’s someone who can certainly be an affordable asset to the team. I don’t see him as a 20/20 star. Espinosa’s got that as his ceiling if he can connect with the ball enough.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know we've discussed it before,

but what do you guys think will come of Norris? I’m in the “push him to Harrisburg” camp, but I really feel that way because it’s obvious that staying in Potomac is not working. I hope he plays in the AFL and starts the driving the ball, because I have no idea whats wrong with this guy.

It’s unbelievable that he is hitting .222 with an OBP of over .400

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Norris is still young.

The consensus on him seems to be that his defense and his power are the questions going forward. Supposedly this year he’s made progress on the defensive front. At least he may have cut down on the passed balls and errors. I’m not sure about game calling, footwork and the like. Thankfully, Ramos seems to be very solid defensively and there will be less pressure to rush Norris ahead of his defensive results going forward. As far as his bat goes, I think that he’s lost some bat speed due to the hamate bone surgery he’s had. A similar injury slowed Desmond’s development and I’m hoping Norris will see a similar return of most of his power.

From what I’ve read, Norris supposed to go the Arizona Fall League. If he can produce there, you hope that he can be confident heading to Harrisburg next year. I’d start him at Harrisburg next year regardless. I don’t have a problem with him starting both 2011 and 2012 there. Next year will be important for figuring out what the defense/offense mix is for this converted 3rd basemen as well as whether we need to start thinking about converting him to 1B should Ramos prove to be that much better defensively and Marrero not to stake a claim on the position.

Solid AFL, positive Eastern League debut, and let’s reevaluate next year at the halfway point.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's such an enigma.

I would think that he should stay in A-ball for the time being and go slow with him.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not really an enigma.

He’s been an OBP machine everywhere he’s gone. If his defense hasn’t made strides, keep him down in Potomac awhile longer if you like the coaching there better than in Harrisburg. I really do believe that we’re seeing the floor for his bat. Strike zone discipline seems to be one of the toughest things to teach prospects and he definitely has that.

He’s still got a an over .400OBP and a .770OPS this year. Given the injuries (hamate bone surgery, beaning earlier on in the year), I’d let he Arizona Fall League and the defense determine what you do with him.

I’m unabashedly pro-Norris, though, and I hope they start him in Harrisburg.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

“Strike zone discipline seems to be one of the toughest things to teach prospects and he definitely has that.”

I agree with this comment 1,000 times

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree as well.

Could use that in the big leagues? haha

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean I know that he's high OBP and has terrific discipline.

But something about me just doesn’t get him. Make him Ka’aihue with upside though and I’d be happy.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

well you could argue

that’s basically what he was last year, except at a premium position. He hit 23 homers with a high OBP.

I agree that the hand injury has probably hurt his bat speed some, only time will tell.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not seeing Norris this year is one of the biggest things I have missed about the lack of wheels this year.

The past two years I’ve seen Potomac play maybe 10-20 times. This year I’ve only seen Potomac once and Hagerstown once. The one game that I saw in Potomac, Norris got hit by a pitch and stung pretty good, although he stayed in the game. I still have hope that either the defense will pick up enough for him to be a low average high OBP catcher, something we could really use. Or else the bat will return to last year’s Hagerstown domination and he’ll have the fallback of a move to 1B. It’s hard to overestimate just how thoroughly Norris dominated the Sally League last year. His bat earned him a promotion to Potomac by midseason but his defense held him back. That his numbers weren’t even better reflects that the bumps and bruises of catching started to take their toll by season’s end.

He was supposed to play in the AFL last year if I recall, but again the injuries held him back.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats the part that confuses me most

He was so dominant last year for Hagerstown…I just had such high expectations for this year. Really the AFL will have to tell us everything, because its impossible to predict whether he’s still recovering from injury or if he really can’t drive the ball against High A pitching (which I doubt)

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

A recent Top 10 catcher list fanpost on Sickels had some interesting Norris convo

The jury is still very much out on the man in this fanpost. Some people consider him Top 3 catcher candidate. Many have him outside of the Top 10. Data is very much inconclusive, and I applaud Rizzo for not leaving us married to Norris as the Pudge successor.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

There gets to be a point where you can't say injuries are bad luck.

He’s not an instinctive catcher and he crowds the plate and those are two factors that can get you hurt. Wherever he plays, a mostly healthy 2011 is the most important thing for Norris at this point.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Norris, I am 100% sure he will hit a home run and drive in at least 3

the P-Nats are resuming a suspended game against Lynchburg where they were up 8-2 last week.

So that’ll help his stats tonight.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

We can all agree that's very good news for Mr. Norris.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amazingly, Norris did manage to hit a HR!

2B, HR, 2BBs in the suspended game all told. But as yet it has not been absorbed into this .770 OPS.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rhinehart and Davis?

Did anyone believe these guys were serious prospects? There’s a big difference between rushing these guys and rushing guys like Espinosa and Ramos.

Rob

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by RobBobS on Aug 9, 2010 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Morrow's a Harrisburg writer and he's going to have his bias.

In 2008, both Rhinehart and Davis played at 3 different levels in the Nats system with barely any time at the middle level. Rhinehart played at low A, highA, and Harrisburg. Davis played at Potomac, Harrisburg, and Syracuse. But you’re right, both of these guys probably weren’t great prospects to begin with and some of my bias towards Davis is that I remember him as Minor League Player of the Year offensively, which says as much about our weak system at the time as it does his skills. I think Norris won that last year for us.

Really Desmond is the better example of an overaggressive promotion schedule possibly being hurtful with all of the hype he had in 2005-2006 getting him up to Harrisburg too quickly.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mevans12 is Syracuse on tonight?

Just checked on the radio and it seemed like they had the generic Fox coverage on.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

No b/c of weather, it's PPD

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cancelled, not delayed?

Must be some truly nasty weather up there. You following any ball?

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starting to listen to the Hagerstown game

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did the 6-0 score in the Reds/Cardinals game have anything to do with that?

I was thinking about heading downstairs to check that one out around 8:30 or so. Looking like I’ll pass. On the other hand, just got clearance on Tuesday so I’ll be at tomorrow night’s game in the grandstand and I’ll probably try to get tickets for Thursday then as well.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh I was working on some web site stuff so haven't been paying attention to that game

Just following the Rays (and Price for a fantasy team) and this game too, no DBulls game or Storm game

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

So far so good for TBay.

Bombers lose. Hope Price gets it done. You want to be an ace, young man? Stop the losing streak.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 game losing streak

sigh, the pitching staff is in tatters right now either with bad form or injuries.

also, isn’t kannapolis the hometown of the earndhart family?

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leake is mostly a pitch to contact guy

though he is a very good one. That just doesn’t work against a lineup like the Cardinals

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Aug 9, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow Leake got shelled

maybe time for Chapman? I know he’s close

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope.

They’re converting him to relief and they’ve got him relieving on the farm. He’s CoCo insurance at the moment.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I saw that they moved him to the 'pen

He’s been mowing down EVERYONE in the last two weeks

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's relief purely this season

I’m betting he’s in their rotation opening day next year. But they have plenty of people to take over for Leake. Its about time that Leake was shut down anyway, being straight out of college.

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by Doncosmic on Aug 10, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leake turning into a pumpkin would be met with great consternation on Red Reporter...

…and me too. I’ve been rooting for him to get ROY. I think Heyward may fade or end up overrated. Garcia’s got to be in the mix big time now, too. Who would be your ROY?

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like Leake

ever since he called out Strasburg and made fun of him from when they were kids…so I’m glad he got roughed up.

If I had a vote, it would definitely be for Posey. I saw him hit in college a couple times (I go to UMD) and he sure can rake.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm. Didn't hear that one.

I think the Reds should reap the rewards of just playing a kid out the gate, though. I’d like to see more kids get the chance to play where they deserve and for him to take of care business in the spring, solidify his place in the rotation, and then be one of their best pitchers is a solid story.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a Yahoo Sports feature on this too

Leake’s had a thing to him, showed it at ASU too

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rather interesting...

…here’s the quote of interest on Leake.

In early June, just days before Strasburg would make his extraordinary big league debut, a story about Leake appeared in USA Today, in which Leake recalled playing alongside Strasburg as kids, and said, “He was overweight, pouty and used to cry.” Leake further mused that it would be “a nice little competition” to face Strasburg in the majors.

Back in San Diego, Erik Castro, Strasburg’s catcher at SDSU and the best man at his wedding, read the story and — knowing how it would make Strasburg burn — immediately called him to see if he had seen it. Strasburg had seen it, all right. And he was steaming.

Leake was officially on The List.

“It really fired him up,” Castro said. “I was the first person to talk to him about it. He got so fired up. He wants to pitch against [Leake]. He said some other things that aren’t appropriate to put in a newspaper. But he definitely wants a piece of that kid.”

Leake seems like he wants to talk loud enough to get some noise and some ink. I’m still pulling for the Reds over the Cardinals, though. Too bad we’re done with the Reds for the year.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Block quote fail....

…everything except the last paragraph was from the WaPo story.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha Castro!

He’s a good guy— I remember meeting his parents in Irvine and they are very gratuitous. I think Castro was Strassy’s best man in his wedding.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garcia.

Consistent and good. I don’t know if I’m allowed to like Posey, for multiple reasons.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I imagine

at least one of those reasons has to be the FSU thing?

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Yes. and Yes. I mean he’s a quality player, but I’m predisposed to not like any of those guys (except Martin, he is a very classy head coach).

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do think Bakich will help the program

He’s a stellar recruit, it will just take five-six years. The facilities are pretty bad though, I may say.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I've got two friends on the team

we don’t have the greatest program, to say the least

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It'll improve, I mean UVA's program was hanging by a thread in 2001.

It just takes time.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just like UVA Bball and football.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ding ding ding

Although I am indifferent about football, my allegiances lie with USC there

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that certainly

looks promising for this season. NOT.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha you take your cheap shot

I’m okay with it, my money went to pay Reggie and I’m bitter too

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

My views on college football are mostly summarized with:

ABND

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really have a college football team

but I watch a ton of it. I guess I should be more of a Terps fan, but I’ve had years of experiences that tell me otherwise.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean I count myself as a huge sports fan and buff

So when my former roommate knew more than me about the current players on the UVA team, that’s saying something. I’ve brushed up, but I still could really care less.

I’ve kind of not cared about any sort of football anymore, but of course I’ll still end up watching on Sundays. haha

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ironic considering last night’s thread…..

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

No comprendo, please explain

Haha i’m slow

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was referring to

the whole bowl-ineligibility bit

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha okay?

I’m still lost about Souldrummer’s chip-in, but it’s me so no worries.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe last night there was a debate on the whole merits of advisers and there impact on the amateur status of collegiate players. Let’s just say USC has a liberal definition of the term amateur and Lane Kiffin may be similarly confused.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lane Kiffin or Pete Carroll? heh

And I still think I had the better of that debate. I actually presented facts that explained the premises, flawed that they are.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You probably did.

It was getting beyond my depth and interests. Isn’t Lane Kiffin being investigated for misdiscretions at Tennessee too along with most of the rest of the SEC?

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah the whole thing was that he was saying how Ingram couldn't be advised and then go back to school.

But the reason he can’t is because he has to declare for the draft. Baseball players don’t do that, we all know that the draft finds them.

And yes, Kiffin is being investigated, but I’m pretty sure it’s because of a petty issue— just apparently illegal usage of female student hostesses.
(Nothing implied here, they were just spotted at a high school football game apparently and other places not permitted by the NCAA)

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last I heard is that it may be going beyond that...

…and that is attitude towards NCAA compliance with a little cavalier last year. Now how much of that is genuine misdeeds and how much of that is “we don’t like that arrogant Mofo!” I don’t know.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet it's both.

I’ve always been in the camp that he is just a transition hire, but who knows.

And Haden just sacked Chad Kreuter, the baseball coach, so change is perhaps a’comin, for the good.

But man is Kiffin a lucky man with his wife and his endless employment and career advancement.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't know about the wife situation for Mr. Kiffin.

But yeah, he leads a charmed life. He has worked a failed tenure with Al Davis into two pretty high profile jobs. I’m sure you heard about how he swiped an NFL assistant to coach for him at USC as well.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man you've been missing out! haha

I did the hard work for you:
http://www.google.com/images?q=layla+kiffin&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=iKVgTIiBOMP68AaIy9SmCQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCcQsAQwAA&biw=1528&bih=752

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy smokes

I wouldn’t trade my girlfriend, though. She just bought me a Strasburg autographed ball and she’s hot

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

A wise soul this....

….hopefully you are earning a profitable and marketable degree while you are a Termp.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Debate?

I wouldn’t call it a debate. Plus, you presented no facts whatsoever, just your self-absorbed opinions. I’m actually a little embarrased I allowed myself to stoop to your level; that type of discussion, with a collegiate freshman at that, is beneath me. In fact, I do not care for the argument type of blogging, and have considered leaving FBB altogether.

by sullyzz on Aug 10, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't like to get into quarrels,

But if I really didn’t present facts in that argument, then what constitutes a fact?

When are “baseball players don’t declare for a draft” and “football and basketball players do declare for a draft” and “NCAA rules dictate different protocol for declaration and non-declaration sports” not facts?

If they aren’t, then my golly me.

I never ever said anything about being beneath you, and if there’s one lesson I’ve learned from my previous online experiences, it’s to grow some thicker skin. If you’re too scared to just accept that I actually know something on this topic and spent an hour or two reading that NCAA rulebook you provided me (although I found a viable answer in maybe 20 minutes), then you sir lack that thick skin in this “blogging world.”

Never in the argument did I personally attack you, or even insult you, or even say a mean word about you. I said that you insulted me, yes, but that was because you somewhat trivialized college baseball and kept on repeating the same sh*t over and over again, without ever acknowledging what I was trying to bring to the table.

And I find your threat of leaving very empty and petty, much more immature than what a “collegiate freshman” would bring. And hey! Get your facts straight too, I’m not exactly that…

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by ajk9hy on Aug 10, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sullyzz, I consider you a very valued member of the community...

…and I hope that you don’t consider leaving FBB because one debate went wrong. From the little bit I read, ajk did try to marshall some facts to support his view. He didn’t do enough to convince you, and I wish that he had been more generous to your point of view in some of his posts. Ultimately, we’re all Nats fans and I hope that’s enough for us to agree to disagree on some things.

Internet debates don’t always lead to compromise and I hope that you guys can agree to disagree and move forward.

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by souldrummer on Aug 10, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I appreciate your diplomacy, but

I didn’t ignite the ad hominem attacks. I don’t want Sullyzz to leave the community either— just like my experience at GLB— but I did marshall facts and substantiate them.

He’s entitled to his opinion, but he has to be held accountable to them. If he still believes what he believes, that’s fine. It doesn’t mean his opinion is right, but that’s perfectly fine.

No need for the ad hominem attacks though. I am not beneath you and you certainly aren’t beneath me.

And I certainly did post “No hard feelings” in a post late that night. You apparently didn’t read that and still had the gall to produce an ad hominem comment.

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by ajk9hy on Aug 10, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope “you” isn’t referring to me. I’m not trying to launch an ad hominem attack.

At this point, though, we have what is affectionately referred to my grandparents, (who sullyzz reminds me of but is probably much younger than), as a Bennett situation.

As in “My name is Bennett, and I ain’t in it!” ;-)

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by souldrummer on Aug 10, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry I don't know how to use pronouns properly! haha

Funny example, I like it

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by ajk9hy on Aug 10, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

P.S. I wasn't referring to you Souldrummer

It was to the other guy

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by ajk9hy on Aug 10, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to head over on Thursday

I’m working overnight tomorrow though so I’ll miss nearly all of the game :/

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another rehab start with Mock going on tonight.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Kannapolis, ChiSox lowA team is throwing the ball all over the yard.

3 unearned runs scored for the Suns. Hague is up.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Kague down looking for the 2nd time to end the second. Not sure yet where my interests are for tonight. I do care about the low A team a bunch. I also care about Potomac, but you don’t get to see somebody not named the Yanks/BoSox on the Worldwide Leader that much either. Right now it’s gameday for MLB and Milb radio for me.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clegg's on the DL for Hagerstown....

…that’s too bad. Kobernus 2nd round pick from ‘09 remains on the DL. They’re not saying that he’s down for the rest of the season, though, like Higley and others.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you local? I keep forgetting.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

my buddy just told me….they’re having some storm up there

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what you up to? Watching MLB? I'm listening to Hagerstown right now.

Hague’s having a bad night. Ramirez continues to rake. He’s already 2-2. I liked his approach when I saw him up there. When I logged on, Potomac had finished the suspended game and was waiting to start the night cap.

Better for you, Mr. Hague! 1-out base hit.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I was listening to the suspended game for a bit....

we barely hung on to win 8-7. I was gonna watch the Cards-Reds, but St. Louis took care of that one already. I’ll probably give the O’s a chance until the P-Nats game

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I live down near DC-ish

but I’ve got a friend up in Syracuse who’s always providing me with my details

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

JP Ramirez, SALLY player of the week.

The man just rakes! 3 hit night for JP! Way to go kid!!!!

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright Hood! Hague scores on RBI single.

But Ramirez got gunned down trying to go for third. Making the last out at 3rd base is not a good plan, Mr. Ramirez.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Woohoo this game's been pretty good so far

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by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has anybody heard anything about Bloxom?

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to link to this in tomorrow's update....

….but Brian just put up an outstanding summary of our high school picks from 2005-2007.
As always, Brian’s stuff is awesome. Good focus and good comments on some of the high schoolers of interest within the organization.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

BIG MIKE!!!

Good look.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bigger news with this one is that it looks like Mock did not have that great a rehab outing.

You’d like to see him get in the mix in Syracuse ASAP.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone know what happened to him?

I saw he had a cervical spine injury, which sounds awful to someone who’s applying to med school right now

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was some issue like that.

He was losing feeling in his pitching hand some while he was up here from what I understand and then he started feeling a lot of pain and had to get shut down. The Nats have so many of these 5/6ish guys that they’ll have to deal with the 40-man for next year. I don’t know what you do with guys like Detwiler and Olsen who appear to be made of glass.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so unconvinced when I watch Detwiler

I scratch my head every time I think that he was the 6th overall pick in the draft…I just don’t get it. I don’t see him as any more than a so-so 3rd starter.

Am I missing something?

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope.

He had more velocity when he came out. They thought they’d be able to straighten out his mechanics. Lefty 92-85 with a nasty hook will get you a top 10 draft pick in 2007. Mechanics and injuries leave him the perpetual tease. You hope he’ll be able to come back soon and contribute.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's his OBP at now?

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

.376

which is higher than I would have guessed

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

How's he look?

ABP means I have to hold my nose and root for him too.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean so far so good.

He gave up a leadoff single to Bourn, he stole a bag, and then he got out of it. Second inning was solid

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing I like about Minor

is he has a really nice approach to pitching. 38 pitches through 3, and he’s throwing almost exclusively fastball-changeup.

No offense to the Houston Astros, but their lineup tonight is pretty much a whole bunch of replacement players…there’s no need to fall behind hitters throwing the breaking stuff and backing into a corner where you’re forced to throw fastballs over the plate.

Some of our pitchers could do themselves a lot of good watching Minor pitch…Stammen has started to do this a lot more in his last four starts.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Until they hit it, establish that fastball and throw strikes.

Houston stinks. Sadly, that replacement lineup knocked us around when we went to Houston. I really felt that the series and/or the Orioles series was what sent us along the path to irrelevance.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep...I think you're right.

That AL roadtrip against Cleveland, Detroit and Baltimore killed us. After Strasburg’s debut we had a ton of momentum and had just swept Pittsburgh. Cleveland and Baltimore are awful and Detroit is certainly not the team now that we thought they were in June.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably my last half inning following the Suns.

Top of the 8th with Sanchez Ramirez and Hood.
You learn a lot more about the defensive side listening to the games, though. Sounds like Perez made a great diving stop but hasn’t had the arm strength and accuracy to make plays close on potential assists. Sanchez had a play that was almost an error earlier in the game.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Ramirez Ks against the reliever.

3-4, K.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Minor has run into lots of trouble

3 doubles and single have him down 3-2. Seems like Houston hitters the second time around came out swinging against the fastball. He hasn’t made any adjustments and I’ve still yet to see him throw one breaking ball.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Welcome to the bigs, kid!

Got to have a plan 2nd time through the order.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He struck out the final two batters (8 and 9 hitters)

on changeups after getting ahead 0-2 with the fastball. Gotta love the NL.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daniel Hudson appears to like the NL just fine.

Do you know if we’re going to get him this weekend?

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll be starting on the 16th.

We’ll miss him by a day.

We also miss Josh Johnson by a day. Oh darn.

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon Norris! Let's get it done!

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Announcers say Derek Norris defense has been great...

….“but the breaking ball continues to baffle Norris.” as he strikes out on 4 pitches. Wonder what that means exactly…..

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Bad move, Norris.

He doesn’t accept the sacrifice. Tries to throw to 3rd to stop runner from advancing and throws wide of the bag. No error, but should have just accepted the out and gone to 3rd.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

meant go to first.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Potomac is fading. They give up 2 insurance runs and they're now down 5-2 and counting.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Good news!

It’s very hard for me to get used to this world where I’m rooting for the Braves.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha I'm with you there

man tonight has been a slow night for baseball

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of off days in the system and the Syracuse rainout is a downer.

No Nats, no Espy, no Ramos, and a laugher on the Worldwide Leader. I’m glad I’ll be able to hit the park tomorrow.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

urg I'm gonna have to

find a way to get updates on the game tomorrow night

by Mevans12 on Aug 9, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope Stras comes up big.

Gonna head downstairs and watch some TV or read my book. May pop in later, though.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

P-Nats fall to the HillCats.

Split doubleheader.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Sounds like Hagerstown wins 4-1 tonight.

Good work for the Suns. I’m probably going to test drive my new Suns hat at the game tomorrow.

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by souldrummer on Aug 9, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Good win

um, please visit my soccer (football) blog. it's interesting, I promise. por favor? (filbertway.com)
Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise. (visit por favor? my website)

by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aah back to Hagerstown eh

um, please visit my soccer (football) blog. it's interesting, I promise. por favor? (filbertway.com)
Sunshine will come to Nats Park, I promise. (visit por favor? my website)

by ajk9hy on Aug 9, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steve L. in AA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by jeff550 on Aug 10, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Glad to hear he got that promotion he certainly earned it. I’m going to look for a relevant link and add an edit to today’s minor’s update.

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by souldrummer on Aug 10, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yah, didnt know till the radio guy siad it, he had me scared when he said Lombardozzi wasnt there, though he was hurt

by jeff550 on Aug 10, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be interested to see the corresponding move.

It would certainly be easier if Kobernus wasn’t the man of glass and had either earned a promotion or could help make it easier to play him everyday at 2B in Hagerstown and consider moving someone else up. For the aggressive promotion lobby, Sanchez or Hague would be candidates from Hagerstown. Otherwise, Martinez could get sent down. Gonna check out natsfarm.com and see if he’s got the skinny yet.

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by souldrummer on Aug 10, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

from natsfarm.com

Harrisburg was off on Monday. Notes: 2B Stephen Lombardozzi has been promoted from Potomac to Harrisburg and UTIL Robby Jacobsen was sent back to Potomac; additionally RHP Jason Jones was sent to Harrisburg with no word on the corresponding move; Patriot News preview of the Harrisburg series with Binghamton

by jeff550 on Aug 10, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good look.

I’ve been skimming across the affiliates quite a bit lately as nationalsprospects.com has daily box scores and I’m looking at a lot of the boxscores myself and have my own storylines of interest. Usually I expect the promotions in separate posts.

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by souldrummer on Aug 10, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Orlando Hernandez to AA

by jeff550 on Aug 10, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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