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Wire Taps: Florida Marlins' Gaby Sanchez On Washington Nationals' Nyjer Morgan.

Marlins' first baseman Gaby Sanchez, the second man into the brawl last night that started when Fish right-hander Chris Volstad threw at the Washington Nationals' Nyjer Morgan for the second time in a HBP-filled affair in Florida, made an appearance on Sirius/XM's MLB Network Radio show Power Alley with Jim Duquette and guest host (and former major league pitcher) Jeff Nelson to talk about what went down in Sun Life Stadium last night. According to the first baseman, he blinsided and clotheslined the Nats' 6'0'' 175lb outfielder because he was "just trying to protect" the Marlins' 6'8'' 230lb right-hander. "I mean it's just one of those crazy things," Sanchez says, "I'm trying to protect Chris Volstad as much as I can in that situation." 

Jim Duquette: "What's going through your mind [when Morgan charged the mound]?"

Gaby Sanchez: "I wish that I could have gotten there before [Morgan got to Volstad] so he couldn't even take a swing at Volstad, and I could've tried to get into the middle of it, but, I mean, just like you said, he's very quick and he's the only one that knew what he was going to do, so...I mean I kinda knew in the back of my head that there was a chance that he would charge if he gets hit again, but he kinda stayed for a second and then all of a sudden threw his bat and then started to run so he kinda got, I think everybody by surprise. So, in my situation I'm just trying to do whatever I can to try to protect my pitcher and get him off him."

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Jeff Nelson: "I played a long time and there [are] idiots all over the league. And yeah, if you could you'd want to hit them all the time, every time at bat. And same with pitchers, it goes both ways. I look at what Nyjer did, and for one I want to ask, 'Why did Volstad throw behind him the second time?' He hit him one time, which is for what happened the night before with running over the catcher [Brett Hayes], and I looked at that play and, I don't know if you as a player, I don't know if you've ever run into a catcher, is that a situation like the last ten, fifteen feet, twenty feet, you're seeing a play and all of a sudden you have to make a split decision, 'Am I going to run this over or if I'm going to slide,' and all of a sudden maybe you do run the guy over and then you look at it that night or the day after and you're like, 'You know what, if I would've slid I would've been safe,' but I have to make a split second decision if I'm going to take this guy out or not, so I didn't understand why you guys threw at him a second time, maybe kind of explain that a little bit of your reasoning?"

Gaby Sanchez: "I mean I just took it as, we hit him the first time, I think we're up by eleven at that point in time and when he got to first he ends up stealing second and then stealing third, down by eleven. And that's the whole gist of the conversation, you know I heard, you really don't do that in baseball. I can understand if it's a four-run lead, and you know, they hit you on purpose and you go ahead and steal second and steal third, then I don't think it's anything of a big deal, but when the team's down by eleven, we're not really holding him on, we're not really doing anything and he ends up stealing second and then third, and I know a lot of the guys were upset about the whole situation, so just try to hit him again kinda thing." 

Jeff Nelson: "I can understand if it's late in a game, 7th, 8th, 9th game. If I'm a pitcher, I don't like when he's stealing cause all of a sudden I take up for my teammates and next thing I know he's stealing bags and that's a freakin' earned run and we're eleven runs up, but it's in the 4th and you've got to expect that they are going to run. If you weren't holding him on then you had to be playing close, and in that situation if you guys didn't want him to steal, and who knows what Nyjer's mindset is about, 'OK, I'm stealing this base no matter what.' But I didn't think, now if it's the other way, if they're up by eleven I can understand how you don't run, now when it's down, you're trying to do everything you can to come back that early. I don't think it's an unwritten rule about hey if you're down this much then you shouldn't be stealing, cause I mean if you guys are down and you're on the basepaths that early in the game, I mean anybody does it." 

Gaby Sanchez: "Yeah, I definitely understand both ways of it, it was just I definitely know he was stealing because he got hit. It wasn't, 'Oh, we're down by 10 or 11, I'm going to steal those to get to third, it was, 'You guys hit me on purpose so now I'm going to steal second, I'm going to steal third,' and I know that was his mindset, but I mean, it's over now, things are done, so you've just got to continue playing and you know we still have got another three games against them and I'm pretty sure that all of this is done with."  

There. Now you have both sides of the story. 

• Had enough brawl talk? Here's some other things to read to get you through the travel day before tomorrow night's game in Pittsburgh: 

• CSN Washington Holden Kushner: "Nats Worth Watching In 2011?"

Holden Kushner debates with his significant other as to whether the Nats will be competitive and exciting to watch next season: "You’ll have to depend on young guys like Jordan Zimmermann and Ross Detwiler to win 28-30 games next year like San Diego has gotten with young guys named Mat Latos and Clayton Richard. The Nationals defense has been consistently atrocious and the Padres have the best bullpen in baseball. Again, this is all possible, but definitely not probable."  

• Washington Post Nationals Journal Adam Kilgore - "Hello, Danny Espinosa. Goodbye, Scott Olsen?"

"Espinosa saw the ball skip into the outfield, a clear single. But Espinosa kept his eyes to the outfield as fielder Mike Stanton 'didn't come to the ball hard,' Espinosa said. 'The second I saw him not charging the ball hard, I made my break for second.'"

• NATIONALS NEWS NETWORK- Dave Nichols - "Random Thoughts For Off-Day Thursday."

"In non-Nyjer news, wow, was Scott Olsen bad. It's the second time since his return from the D.L. he's failed to make it out of the second inning. Overall stats since returning in seven starts: 32 IP, 1-6, 8.72 ERA, .331/.384/.574 against. Oh, and every start is another $100,000 down the drain."

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Dear Gaby and the Marlins:

Nyjer Morgan attempts to steal bases EVERY TIME he gets on, even if the team doesn’t want him to.

by RoscoeNats on Sep 2, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I guess we should just add the slaughter rule like in Little League

apparently you’re not allowed to play the game if you’re losing.

Free Tip to the Marlins: Hold him on or Throw him out

by Brotato on Sep 2, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or send Volstad to the bench.

Seems like NL baserunners have been stealing against him at will. The individual statistical element in an interesting part of this argument. Nyjer certainly wants to climb the steals ladder in the NL and improves his stolen base percentage. Volstad’s got to be frustrated with the parade of baserunners stealing off of him.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Sep 2, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh, he's not always successful, but he does always try that's for sure...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Sep 2, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you Jeff Nelson! You're my new hero.

He said exactly what I was thinking. It was the 4th inning! 7th, 8th 9th, yeah, then I guess it’s a little questionable, but this, “Thank you sir, may I have another?” stuff is just BS. Like others have said, if you don’t want Nyjer to run, hold ‘em on or throw ’em out. Don’t whine like little … kitties. Throwing behind him? Bush league. Let’s not forget, Volstad hit two other guys also. That seems to get lost in all this. He should have been gone sooner in the game and the brawl doesn’t happen.

Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.

by Princess Jazzy on Sep 2, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, but do remember that "statistically" it made no difference in the game.

So he should have just stayed on first and politely asked permission to run to second on the next hit.

Actually, what really should have happened is that the Nat should have hung up their spikes after the third inning when it became statistically improbable that they were going to win the game. Would have kept this whole ugly incident from happening altogether.

by plunkthefed on Sep 2, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I get it. You're the sarcastic guy who tells us all what we're wrong about....

And wouldn’t want us as teammates. There are ways to make arguments without being condescending and sarcastic. Those ways are preferred by most around here.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Sep 2, 2010 2:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think the sarcasm is directed at one of the comments from a thread way back that went into WPA and stuff like that.

There’s a lot of folks who won’t be receptive to that line of thinking.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Sep 2, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'n aware of the genesis of his comments....

And I’ve read all the comments this gent has posted since he joined FB yesterday.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Sep 2, 2010 3:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Gotcha.

I’m sure you have and I appreciate all the coverage on the issue. Frustrating to me how this whole Nyjer Morgan fight discussion can divide the fanbase and lead to some language that bothers some people.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Sep 2, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be me, stirring up trouble

My point was, of course, that stealing a base when you’re down 11 doesn’t help the team win much. It “helps”, but only in the same way that picking up a penny on the street will “help” you become a millionaire.

Compared with the near-certain result of the opponents taking offense and the myriad way they might “retaliate”, from a cost-benefit perspective it just seems better to leave it alone.

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Sep 2, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess the upside to the whole thing is that some of the Nats' bad

hitters seemed to get a spark in their bats after the fight. If they could build on that, it would be great.

FWIW, I really like that the Nats came back and scored 10 runs even if they didn’t have a good chance of winning the game,

Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.

by Princess Jazzy on Sep 2, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

But the Nats in general weren’t having an extraordinarily difficult time hitting the ball last night. The pitching was bad all around; the Nats just had worse.

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Sep 2, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again, that's kind of a stats mentality that some are not going to be receptive to.

There are other fans coming from a hockey or football mentality who dig a player sticking up for himself and possibly starting a fight to fire the team up.

I did read that book on the Unwritten Rules, and as I said in an earlier comment, one subtle way that Nyjer could have gotten back at the pitcher was to try to drop a bunt down and dare him to cover. If he covers, then you can try to plow through him in a legal baseball play that dares the pitcher to risk getting run over. If he doesn’t, you can get back on base and steal two more bases and further drive him crazy.

I think that play is the middle ground between passively allowing them to throw at you a second time and going emotional in ways that lead to suspensions and a bad, bad image that I’m sure his agent doesn’t appreciate too much.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Sep 2, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suspect that a lot of the new posters around here

are fans of hockey and street-ball (NBA) where physical aggressiveness and personalities tend to drive the play a lot more than they do in baseball.

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Sep 2, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

"street-ball (NBA)"

You’re going to only widen the anti-RobBobS coalition with stuff like that. ;-) Clearly, this aggressive pose is part of your role as The Leader of the Peoples Front for Miguel Batista. If only Miguel Batista would personally enter the Nyjer Morgan discussions, much of this would be settled peacefully. Clearly, all of Natstown can be reminded of the greatness of our team when we are reminded of the greatness of Miguel Batista and all he has done to be worthy of The Miguel Batista Fan Club.

I’m harsh on the NBA too, though. If the Wizards bounce back with Wall I’d probably care about the NBA a bit more. I do play Fantasy Basketball (although I’d prefer to join a Fantasy Baseball league in the offseason). I’m in that league more for social reasons than anything else.

As always, I hope it’s a big tent where fans of all sports will feel welcome. Sometimes I wish they would seek to understand before being understood, but like the greeters in downtown DC, I try to err on the side of kindness.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Sep 2, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

thought that would get a rise out of someone...

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Sep 2, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or are "old-school" baseball types

Old school baseball was not a gentle sport, and certainly was aggressive. What it lacked compared to last night’s exhibition was the idiotic strutting at the end by Nyjer. I think everyone can agree that was a bad idea.

by d_c_guy on Sep 2, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just curious...

@plunkthefed
What stats do you think are important for discussing how baseball players perform? I appreciate your point of view and I wish you’d dial down the sarcasm a smide. Some sarcasm good. A lot can draw out the old statheads vs. traditionalists debate that can get a bit tiring around here sometimes.

I will say that the general gist of your comment and those who agree with you has changed my mind a little bit. During the gamethread, I was bothered by the stolen bases because I felt that it was going to escalate the situation. Now, I realize that whether you’re offended by the stolen bases says more about how you view Nyjer Morgan’s history than whether they were actually a good play or not. I’m going to try to give him the benefit of the doubt on the steals because he’s a National and I want to root for guys that wear the Nationals jersey.

How much have you seen of Nyjer this year? Do you understand why some of the people here are very, very frustrated with his play? Many have seen him not get on base that much, bunt into a lot of outs, and lead the league in caught stealings and wish that he’d chosen not to escalate the situation in the two opportunities that he had to dial things down so that the fines and suspensions could have been avoided.

Still, what bothers me most is the Cardinals play, which was viewed as dirty by his teammates and his manager, and the antics leaving the field. Some of this discussion had helped me dial back my criticism of the stolen bases.

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Sep 2, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 Rec

THIS!

On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

by souldrummer on Sep 2, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

A genuine rivalry. Now we know the Nats are bona fide...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Sep 2, 2010 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Marlins have deemed that it's over. Really?

I hope Riggs says, “No one tells us when it’s over, we’ll decide when it’s over.”

Note to Gaby: It was a cheap shot. No other way to look at it.

Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.

by Princess Jazzy on Sep 2, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You people and pop culture

Now I want to get a bucket of fried chicken and watch Rambo. Also it would be great if this year spawned a rivalry between the Nats and Marlins and the Phils.

by David Huzzard on Sep 2, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Popeye's...Riggleman...where's Miss B when you need her....

Do they serve vegetarian chicken at Popeye’s?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Sep 2, 2010 2:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We really do need the Popeye Riggs pic in this thread! LOL

You know what they say about fried chicken batter, you could batter a volkswagen and fry it and it would taste the same! hehe

Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.

by Princess Jazzy on Sep 2, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh brother, where art thou???

That’s what I was thanking when I heard bona fide…Olsen better watch out we’ll send him out on a rail.

by Berndaddy on Sep 2, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It can't be a rivalry until the Nats actually start winning some of these games

The Nats record against the Marlins has been dreadful and not just this season. I don’t think many Nats fans are honestly going to talk about a rivalry with the Marlins. It sounds rather hollow when we’re constantly losing to those guys.

Of course I’d love it if the Nats start dominating the Marlins and taking every series. But that hasn’t happened yet so I’m not going to do any trash-talking on that front.

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"Save it. I'm goin' for a smoothie."
The Washington Nationals, the team of the 2010s!

by Potomac Fan on Sep 2, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not getting the image.

"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride

by Jorgath on Sep 2, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

In OT, Patrick, thank you very much for the picture of Riggs. I always appreciate them. ; )

Patiently waiting for "next year" since 1971.

by Princess Jazzy on Sep 2, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morgan needs to be off this team.

He is out of control. It’s just been a dismal year for him. I don’t know what goes on in his head sometimes.

by rachel216 on Sep 2, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

He's going to get a break from the team and from the league

He can use that break to rest, contemplate, and come back next year to fight with Willie Harris for the 4th outfielder job.

by d_c_guy on Sep 2, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bernie and Willingham and ... Morse are in?

I doubt Willie will be back next year. I’m going to patiently bide my time ’till I can start writing

(3) (RF) Harper

into my scorebook. OK, I don’t actually own a scorebook, but I’d buy one if it would speed up this day!

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Sep 2, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morse or a Free Agent

Either would have a leg up on Morgan at this point. I am open to Morgan winning his job back, but I recognize from my extensive stat-crunching and WAR extrapolating that this is unlikely :-)

by d_c_guy on Sep 2, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he has really imploded in recent weeks

He’s going to get suspended by MLB for yesterday’s actions. And I seriously doubt they’ll pay much attention to his arguments during his appeal of the 7-day suspension he already received for throwing the baseball at the fan in the Phillies games. With just about a month left in the season and Morgan facing maybe two weeks of suspensions and the September call-ups on the roster, I can’t see him playing much more the rest of the season.

And I find it hard to see the team keeping him on for next season. Clearly he’s not a true starting OF. And we’ve seen that he will not accept a lesser role as a platoon guy or even as a no. 8 hitter. Better to release him or trade him (if anyone will take him) than to have him be a negative presence in the locker room.

I was a fan of his last year and even early this year but not anymore. Poor production and now uncontrolled behavior on the field, which has a strong possibility of leading to injuries for fans and his own teammates (because of retaliation beanballs and brawls). If he keeps this nonsense going, one of our guys is going to tear a ligament at the bottom of a pile-up during a brawl. Or break a wrist when they get beaned by an opposing pitcher. Yes, baseball involves the risk of injury every day but why bring on extra injury risk when it doesn’t do anything to improve the team?

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"Save it. I'm goin' for a smoothie."
The Washington Nationals, the team of the 2010s!

by Potomac Fan on Sep 2, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gee, take a couple of days off from baseball....

and the place goes nuts. Dibble departs, Ted Lilly almost gets claimed by the Yankees, Manny becomes a White Sox, the Nationals get into a bench clearing brawl…what’s next?

"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain

by brook on Sep 2, 2010 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I never had a problem with Gaby Sanchez

But his clothesline on Morgan was a punk move and a total cheap shot. Just try and restrain Morgan, don’t hit the man when he isn’t looking.

Part of Pech's Posse since 2007.

by OleksiyPecherovsHomeboy on Sep 2, 2010 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Totally agree.

Blindsiding someone is absolutely horrid.

Needs moar dingerz.

by Blicks on Sep 2, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nyjer Morgan

I thought the umpire is supposed to throw pitchers out of the game that intentionly throw at batters.

by pirate fan on Sep 3, 2010 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Volstad was thrown out after the second pitch

I think the umps handled it pretty well. Everyone knew Nyjer was gonna get hit. He got hit in a not-particularly dangerous spot and the umps let it go — a sort of on-field justice playing itself out. The second time was out of bounds, and the pitcher was tossed immediately.

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Sep 3, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

The first time would have been OK if it had been the first HBP of the game.

But it wasn’t. Whether or not they’re intentional, a guy who hits 3 batters should be tossed. For safety if nothing else.

"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride

by Jorgath on Sep 3, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

As I mentioned in a different thread,

Our guy Livo hit four batters in a game a few years back and there were no repercussions. Not only that, his half-brother did the same thing the same month.

Rob

"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith

by RobBobS on Sep 3, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And? Just because there WEREN'T repercussions doesn't mean there SHOULDN'T have been.

"Inconceivable!"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
-The Princess Bride

by Jorgath on Sep 3, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys really think there will be a rivalry that lasts into next season?

What's more frustrating than being a Marlins and Orioles fan? Eye surgery???

by Osley Sallent on Sep 3, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

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