Washington Nationals: Yunesky Maya's Debut Important If Not Ideal.
In a season that's seen five Washington Nationals make their MLB debuts, with pitchers Luis Atilano, Jesse English, Drew Storen and Stephen Strasburg all seeing their first major league action and, most-recently, infielder Danny Espinosa setting the world on fire with his bat in his first few games as a Nat, the first start by Cuban-born right-hander Yunesky Maya was of particular interest to fans of the nation's capital's favorite MLB team. As DC GM Mike Rizzo put it during an introductory press conference in Nationals Park, Maya is the "first major international signing" the Nats have made since dedicating themselves to improving their international scouting once Mr. Rizzo became general manager.
Asked during his introduction to describe himself as a pitcher, Maya, the then-28-year-old starter who turned 29 on August 28th said he was as an aggressive pitcher who pounds the strike zone and hits the corners with good command. The command in general, and of his fastball in particular, was missing early in his debut, as he threw just 10 of his first 21 pitches for strikes, and surrendered a bomb of a HR in the first on a 1-0 fastball high and outside to Mets' first baseman Ike Davis that put the Mets up 3-0 in what ended up a 4-1 Mets' win. Maya reacted well to the early trouble, retiring 11 of the next 12 batters batters he faced after giving up the fourth run in the second, and he finished the game with 5.0 IP, 5 hits, 1 HR, 4 earned runs and 2 walks allowed with 3 K's recorded.
Nats' Skipper Jim Riggleman said in the post game press conference that he didn't think it was a case of Maya's nerves costing him early, "I think he just wasn't making his pitches," Riggleman said, "I don't think too much is going to unnerve him." "He kind of pitched as advertised," Riggleman continued, and, "...got better as he went along. I think if he had been as sharp [early] as he was later...maybe he gives up a run or two," instead of the four runs he surrendered on the three-run blast Davis and the RBI line drive by Mets' pitcher R.A. Dickey, respectively. "His first few breaking balls he threw kinda stayed up, hung up there a little bit, and a couple of them were hit foul. I think that he didn't feel like he really had his breaking ball early."
Maya's fastball (35 of 87 pitches) topped out at 92 and he threw a change (15 of 87) that was in the low 80's, along with a slider (21 of 87) that he kept around 81-83 mph and a curve (16 of 87) which was ten mph slower than his slider and once went Livan-low down to 67, but sat from 70-74 for most of the night. But more important than what Maya threw, or even the fact that he recovered nicely after struggling early and showed off a 12-6 cartoon curve, is the fact that the 29-year-old right-hander made his debut in a Nationals uniform and cap, when the Yankees, Red Sox, White Sox, Mets and Phillies had all expressed interest in signing the Cuban-born right-hander.
In his introductory press conference, Maya said that he had decided to sign with the Nationals in part because (as I wrote at the time), he felt that the organization presented a great opportunity for him to make it to the majors, but also because, " the Nats were one of the organizations that were very aggressive with him from the beginning, and did a good job of communicating they wanted him to join the team." That's just about the same thing former Nats' closer Matt Capps told MLB.com's Bill Ladson shortly after he signed in DC in Mr. Ladson's article entitled, "Capps, Nats agree to one-year deal", in which the one-time Pirates' stopper was quoted stating that the Nats, "expressed their interest from Day One,":
"...the moment I was non-tendered. They wanted me to become a Washington National. That means a lot. The feeling of being wanted is very important. I felt that from them from Day One."
Under DC GM Mike Rizzo, the Nats have signed three 1st Round Draft picks, two of whom have already made contributions at the major league level, they signed 25 of the top 26 selections from the 2010 draft class, signed Capps and flipped him to the Twins for catcher Wilson Ramos, brought Pudge Rodriguez to DC and convinced Maya to sign on to pitch in the nation's capital in spite of the fact that there was interest the likes of the Red Sox, Yankees, White Sox and Mets, all the big spenders...though the Nats did fall short in their pursuit of the other big Cuban pitcher on the market this winter when Aroldis Chapman signed with the Reds. But by all reports Washington came a lot closer to winning that bidding war than most would have expected...and they can make up for that anyway. Did you hear about all the teams who've taken a sudden interest in scouting Yu Darvish? The Nationals are now a legitimate option for free agent targets from around the world. And they're willing to spend to make it happen. In Rizzo We Trust.
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Didn't find a way to use it in post, but I did break down Maya's pitch selection by inning for anyone who's interest...
FB 10+9+5+6+5=35
CH 3+5+3+1+3=15
SL 6+ 4+ 5+5+1=21
CR 2+3+6+5+0=16
Started featuring the FB, when it wasn’t their went to the breaking stuff and ended strong with a 9-pitch fifth. Definitely a lot to work with here, and what looks like a backend of the rotation arm in his first start…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Sep 9, 2010 7:41 AM EDT reply actions
[wasn't THERE] I stink....
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Sep 9, 2010 8:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Another thing to consider with Maya. Differing arm slots...
He also throw a split finger FB, right? (I thought I heard Carpenter and Knight talking about it)
Oh well, with all the different pitches and arm slot changes and going in and out with his speeds, I think we’re going to love the way he pitches. He’s a better version of Marquis, Lanan and Livo. I don’t mind these types of pitchers but they don’t walk up to the mound and give you the certainty that they’re lights out for the night. You always wonder. I wish we could get that pitcher. The one who gives you no worries.
Dave from NNN talked a lot aboot Maya changing arm slots...
Hopefully he’ll add his thoughts on the subject….
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Sep 9, 2010 11:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ya, with the change in arm slots his pitches, especially with the slider, had a different look to them.
Maya's arm slot
yeah, I found it very interesting when he came out in the third inning, he went to a 3/4 arm slot to throw his fastball to a couple batters, and then he put it away as quickly as he broke it out. but it seemed to focus him back on the plate…obviously the 3rd thru 5th innings he had much better control. he is a very interesting pitcher to really watch pitch. love the high leg kick, the slight turn of the back (a la Luis Tiant), the sweeping front leg and a good finish. add to that the ability to throw the 3/4 without a loss of velocity, and you’ve got a real interesting guy to watch—not just for results, but for the way he plies his craft.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Sep 9, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Dave didn't he pitch a slider nearly sidearm one time.
I just think he has the tools to fool a bunch of batter. He’s a lot fun watching…
I might have missed the slider.
I thought he used the lower arm slot for just FBs. I’ll watch even more carefully next outing.
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by Dave at District Sports Page on Sep 9, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I am coming to like Rizzo's term
The Nats have belied their cheapskate image by putting up money for the draft choices, for Maya and being in the Chapman bidding right until the end. I may be in the minority here, but I do think that the potential for a new Dunn contract will be a baseball decision, not solely a $$ decision.
"the lerner's
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Sep 9, 2010 9:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"the lerners are teh cheep" is over for sure...
And I agree, I don’t think $$ will decide Dunn’s fate. Still on the fence about what the best baseball decision is, just know I’m not thrilled with the FA 1B alternatives.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Sep 9, 2010 9:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
As near as I can tell
The comps at 1b are Paul Konerko (Dunnlike offense and defense, five years older) and Carlos Pena (Better defense, some power, .203/.330/.423, two years older). After that it’s a long drop to the Aubrey Huffs and Lance Berkmans (who has really been showing his age this year) of the world – although I hear Nick Johnson will be available!
In other words
All the FA options are downgrades.
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
I think Espinosa might have the range and speed to play both 1st and 2nd.
Would love to see the 6-4-4 double play
Good, then Riggs can put an extra infielder on the left side to help out those lumps Zimmerman and Desmond...
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
Can I Be the First...
To Jump Onto the Sign Yu Darvish Bandwagon…?
Darvish Might be the Most Talented Pitcher Outside of MLB…. Would Make the Maya Signing Look Like the Marquis Signing…
"Oh no sir, this has been embarassing for quite some time. " ~Bagger Vance
by BloggerVance on Sep 9, 2010 3:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
yeah, I'm so Natscentric I don't know that name
Can you give us a scouting report and an expected price?
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Here's something
from Verducci. There’s lots of stuff out there on this kid: exciting, but probably beyond the Nats’ price.
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
Thank ya much.
But also from that same article:
The major league scouts, however, must be cringing at his pitch counts. Darvish surpassed 140 pitches in three of those five starts, including 148 in his fifth one. No major leaguer has thrown that many pitches in a game in five years.
The DiceK experience makes me think that these kind of guys are big dollar and big risk that the biggest market teams are better suited for. Let the Yankees get “the Big Toad” and that other import, Kei Igawa, who is probably the most expensive AAA pitcher in the land. I believe that the Nats moves in international should focus on areas where they can take advantage of superior scouting to find guys who are overlooked or at least overvalued.
Isn’t signing a guy like that the equivalent of signing Cliff Lee? Hottest thing on the free agent market = price us out. Hottest thing on the international market = price us out. Carl Crawford on the position player market = price us out?
The Lerners ain’t cheap, but they aren’t spendthrifts either.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Difference between Darvish, Lee and DiceK...
Is that Darvish is 24 yo, but those pitch totals are frightening, I agree…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Sep 10, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Japanese pitchers typically pitch about once ever 7or 8 days so those type of pitch counts are normal
DiceK had alot of them as well
Aim for the head baby Jesus
And he's had lots of injury problems.
Rob
"Ninety feet between home plate and first base may be the closest man has ever come to perfection." -- Red Smith
by RobBobS on Sep 10, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There you go and a rec.
DiceK, Irabu, Kei Igawa are all cautionary tales for me. Haven’t the less than hot guys like the reliever for the Red Sox (don’t want to look up spelling or butcher the name), Kuroda, Kuo, and even the Mets relievers been decent. I’m not even down on Kawakami.
There’s a real need to increase prospect evaluation of Japanese guys. Are you guys getting some of this stuff from Fangraphs? I know that they’ve been focusing more on Japanese guys lately, but I haven’t been reading Fangraphs as much or many of those articles now that I’m spending more time on the minors.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Plenty...
of Video Clips on TheYoutubes. Got to Watch Him in the WorldBaseballClassic Too. He’s Got Top End Stuff, Rubber Arm, Intensity and a Cult Following in Japan Rivaling(Surpassing?) Ichiro’s…
Would only be Guessing What Price He’d Command in the Open-Market-Bidding-System…More Than Chapman Wouldn’t Surprise Me…
"Oh no sir, this has been embarassing for quite some time. " ~Bagger Vance
He's not a free agent yet
So teams have to bid just to have the right to negotiate with him, like the Red Sox did with Dice K. So the price will most likely be WAY more than Chapman.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
WAY more than Chapman...
Wouldn’t Surprise Me Either…
"Oh no sir, this has been embarassing for quite some time. " ~Bagger Vance
by BloggerVance on Sep 9, 2010 8:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Especially as Chapman starts increasing the likelihood...
…that he could be worth his contract in performance and marketing power. And this guy doesn’t bring embargoed Cubans along for the ride, he brings a portion of that Japanese audience.
Well, we know one thing. He won’t be going to Ozzie’s White Sox if Ozzie’s there.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Whether or not Chapman is worth his contract
depends entirely on whether or not he can move into the rotation next year.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
I think he's on the Price plan, where they have the starters right now...
But he’ll be in the rotation in no time…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Sep 10, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I do too
thats the funny thing about the Reds this year, I don’t think even their front office thought they would be in contention, they set up the team to have Volquez and Chapman fronting their rotation in 2011
Aim for the head baby Jesus
That's why it's so much fun for the Reds right now.
They remind of Milwaukee during that CC Sabathia playoff year except that unlike the Brewers they have a better long term plan and didn’t make the all-in deadline deal. I understand why both approaches are appropriate for the respective organizations, though.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
FWIW...
…there’s a lot of talk on both Price and Chapman at Sickels. The sense that I get is that there are more concerns about him as a starter. I’m starting to think that people are saying that he’s Randy Johnson, and others here know the Randy Johnson early career success or failures better than I do. Or he’s in a class by himself. Or he’s a reliever. Or his velocity and mechanics lead to a flameout.
He’s certainly the hot guy right now, and I’d like to see him succeed unless Reds fans start becoming unbearable.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.

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