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Nationals Daily Evolutions 1/14/11

Anyone hoping for a steady line-up is going to have to keep hoping, because Jim Riggleman is already dreaming of ways to mix it up. --Byron Kerr from masnsports.com

Hopefully with the news that Willie Harris won't be returning any ideas of double switches that leave the pitcher batting 4th ended. --Adam Kilgore at washingtonpost.com 

With Orioles reliever Alfredo Simon involved in a shooting in the Dominican Republic it is important to understand the gun culture of the island and what troubles it can cause for major leaguers and future major leaguers. --Jeff Passan at thepostgame.com

Jayson Werth has made a career of proving people wrong, and now with a contract that has him labled as one of the most overrated and overpaid players in the majors he is going to have to do it again. --Danny Wild from milb.com 

The Nats are still trying to add more pitching and Chris Young is the current target. --Mac at section409.com

And Chris Young might be a better option than Jeremy Bonderman. --Phil Wood from masnsports.com

With all these claims by Strasburg that he is in the best shape of his life and the new that he plans to begin throwing off a mound in three to four weeks it got me curious. --Bill Ladson at nationals.com       

So I looked up when Jordan Zimmermann started throwing off a mound. At the time of this March 4, 2010 article it was still reported to be a month away*. --Adam Kilgore from washingtonpost.com 

*No one should start getting their hopes up that Strasburg is this far ahead of schedule, but the slim chance that we will see Strasburg in 2011 is looking more and more likely.

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For those of you going to Spring Training* here is a guide--Ben Goessling from masnsports.com 

*I also personally recommend trying out Padrinos in Orlando if you happen to find yourself up that way.

At least two high school football teams have been discovered to use curly W's on their helmets. --Dan Steinberg in The D.C. Sports Bog

Your mortal diseases can't keep Frank Robinson down. --Adam Kilgore at washingtonpost.com

Around the NL East

The one thing I would be willing to bet on every year is that at least one team no one predicted to be in the playoffs will be in the playoffs. Angel Pagan thinks if everyone is healthy that it could be the Mets, and good for him. We can sit here on the Internet and judge all these teams from afar and pick our favorites, but does any fan want to here that the players have given up on the season before it even begins? --Craig Calcaterra at nbcsports.com   

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Jayson Werth is sad

because Riggleman won’t consider letting him bat second.

by dc Roach on Jan 14, 2011 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

Werth is a #3 or #5 hitter………..Hit Larouche and Pudge{Flores} 4th.

There is no excuse for Ankiel or Gonzalas to be getting major abs this season. Morse should be playing for BERNIE, Morgan and Larouche on a heavy righty day.

I never thought it was out of the question that STRAS pitched 3 times in AA and 2-3 times in Washington. And I do mean in Washington. LOL

by artistfork on Jan 14, 2011 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

Pudge 4th?

Wha? Maybe I misunderstood.

Why not bat Werth 4th? He’s a doubles machine. A 3-4-5 of Zim-Werth-LaRoche works for me.

Ankiel could potentially beat out Morgan or Bernadina. I hope Morse locks down LF somehow.

Strasburg won’t be back in 2011, the Nats would be crazy to rush him and crazy to let Stras rush himself.

by el beisbol on Jan 14, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

He'll be back

and it won’t be rushing him, not letting him pitch once he is ready is only going to hurt him more.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Jan 14, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

I doubt he’ll be back.

If we aren’t in contention in 2011 I don’t see what the rush would be, especially after what happened in 2010.

And I don’t see how holding out of competitive pitching to make sure his arm strength is 100% could possibly hurt his arm.

by el beisbol on Jan 14, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually. Reading some of the comments in the MLB.com

article.

I guess it makes sense to not hold him back if he’s ready by September callups. If he’s completely ready, a couple starts at the end of this year could help him.

Still, I just wonder about the level of stress between less competitive starts and gearing up to face MLB hitters.

by el beisbol on Jan 14, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll be optimistic

I do hope he gets a few starts in this year, simply because there is nothing like pitching to live competition for getting him ready for his 2012 run.

by dc Roach on Jan 14, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

They have to let him pitch in September

so they can have him on the post-season roster.

Rob

"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard

by RobBobS on Jan 14, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Your optimism

keeps us warm in the off season.

by dc Roach on Jan 14, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah.

I’ve still got the “Storm Clouds of Negativity” avatar in use.

Rob

"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard

by RobBobS on Jan 14, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm

that looks like the “Silver Lining in Every Cloud” avatar to me

by dc Roach on Jan 14, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm still hoping that they have his first comeback start on the same day

that they give Harper his first start in the outfield. The shear insanity of it would be great.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Jan 14, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

While I'm sure it would be a sight to see,

it doesn’t make much business sense, does it?

You’ve got to milk these sorts of things. First you start a rumor that Strasburg will be back on date X. Then, after date X sells out, claim that you never said that Strasburg will start on date X, and that you will not make team decisions based upon “unsubstantiated rumors”. Then announce that he’ll start the day after day X. At about the time this is going on, promote Harper to AAA, and make several veiled pronouncements that while it’s certainly true that he’ll have to prove himself worthy of any further advancement (and that it would be very unlikely to occur this season, blah blah blah…), also indicate that you believe that he’s got very little left to prove, and that it’s quite possible that he could be promoted on date Z. As before though, you remain resolute and will not be driven by any rumors you start, so plan on having him come up about a week after that.

Rob

"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard

by RobBobS on Jan 14, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

haha..

I’m sure we could have a lot of fun if we had a puppet GM in Rizzo’s office.

by dc Roach on Jan 14, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

and if they let Zimmermann pitch, why wouldn’t they let Strasburg pitch?

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Jan 14, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Good trifecta

Morse and Ramos will also figure for a cut of prime-time. Boys, we’ll score runs this year – plenty of ’em.

"Let the teachers teach English and I will teach baseball. There is a lot of people in the United States who say isn't, and they ain't eating."

- Dizzy Dean

by Whupass on Jan 14, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Willie Harris goes to New York

He is reportedly signing a minor league deal with the Mets with an invitation to spring training. It is said his chances of making the team are pretty good.

by dc Roach on Jan 14, 2011 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

If Willie Harris annually steals one game from in the standings, then they will gain that game back by insuring he doesn’t not see a big league roster. Plus they can further examine whether his success against the Mets is related to his comfort seeing Mets uniforms and a Mets ballpark or whether it is due to the fact that Mets are the latter day definition of expensive FAIL.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Jan 14, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Harris is a hustling dude, but a career 'tweener

Minors, bigs, back and forth – the player to be named later.

"Let the teachers teach English and I will teach baseball. There is a lot of people in the United States who say isn't, and they ain't eating."

- Dizzy Dean

by Whupass on Jan 14, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ewww.

Rob

"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard

by RobBobS on Jan 14, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

A hideous, albeit remarkably persistent life-form

“I told you, I don’t want you livin’ with roaches.”

- Muhammed Ali, d-con commercial

"Let the teachers teach English and I will teach baseball. There is a lot of people in the United States who say isn't, and they ain't eating."

- Dizzy Dean

by Whupass on Jan 14, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Couple of things

I just realized there’s no home pre-season exhibition game this year. That was always included in the season ticket price before. This amounts to a 1.2% ticket rate hake!

Secondly, why are they doing the fanfest on a weekday? If it’s a daytime event (which I assume it pretty much HAS TO be), it’ll be hard to justify to my bosses getting off two days in a row for baseball.

I do note that as a STH, I will get FF tix for free. So it’s not quite a 1.2% hike, but it ‘s a hike nonetheless, especially if I can’t make the Wednesday FF!

Rob

"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard

by RobBobS on Jan 14, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

On a Wednesday

WTF, that is one of the more stupid things ive seen

by jeff550 on Jan 14, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Detwiler interview by MASN

Really worth reading, lots of good quotes about mechanics and coming back from injury

“I think that this season will be a whole lot better for me because I am going to have all the work done in the offseason,” Detwiler said. “Last year, I did all my off season work and then I had surgery in February (2010) and I lost everything. I feel like I am going into this year a lot stronger and I will last a lot longer throughout the season.”

by dc Roach on Jan 14, 2011 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

While I was personally rooting for Miguel Batista to go to the Royals so that he would be closer to Miss Iowa, Miguel Batista only has 338 miles to go to make it to meet his sweetheart.

Kansas City, my personal hope was a mere 194 miles.

Miguel Batista has made a loyal sacrifice for his fans by choosing to remain in the National League and take the opportunity to meet his legions of supporters in Nationals Park.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Jan 14, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

*cough*

Batista is 39 years old now. 39/2 + 7 = 26.5

Miss Iowa is 21 years old.

I don’t know what kind of standards you propose we hold guys to, soul, but I’m worried for the poor girl.

Now me, I’m much, much younger than 39, so there’s no reason for her to cry if she can’t have her favorite baseball player…

by dc Roach on Jan 14, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Miguel reminds us with Aaliyah that Age Ain’t Nothing But a Number.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Jan 14, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Hang on - 39 is too old for 21?

Time and tide for no man wait – and for women, it don’t even blink. They catch up, and quick. If you are “much, much younger,” this’ll come as a surprise, but when 21 + 15 = 36, she’s on the grace-period. Meanwhile, he’s still spry, and time for a trade-in.

"Let the teachers teach English and I will teach baseball. There is a lot of people in the United States who say isn't, and they ain't eating."

- Dizzy Dean

by Whupass on Jan 14, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

If you read Ladsons article on stras...

Strasburg is never quoted as saying he’s throwing off a mound in 3-4 weeks.. He says he hopes to start throwing in 3-4 weeks. Big difference. I get the feeling Ladson took this quote and made it into something that’s not actually true. Especially if jzimm didn’t even start throwing until April

by dcsportsfanatic on Jan 14, 2011 10:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

*jzimm didn’t start throwing off a mound until april

by dcsportsfanatic on Jan 14, 2011 10:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Rizzo said today:

Strasburg will not start throwing until the doctors tell him to start throwing. Period.

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Jan 14, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Speculation is pointless...

but I’ll speculate he’s throwing by mid-season, and makes a few starts in September – strengthen the arm (and sell out the house).

"Let the teachers teach English and I will teach baseball. There is a lot of people in the United States who say isn't, and they ain't eating."

- Dizzy Dean

by Whupass on Jan 15, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

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