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Can the Nationals be a Surprise Team Part 1: Pitching

There are just four Thursdays left until pitchers and catchers report for Spring Training, and as I have just finished on one cliché of good teams win close games I am going to move onto another cliché for this four part series. The cliché I will be looking at is that teams win because of pitching, defense, and timely hitting. I am going to add intangibles onto the end just to make it a four part series. The last two have some definition issues to be worked out, but that is still a couple weeks away, and I am ready to get to the meat of this column, but there is one more thing. Just what makes a team a surprise team? I am going to define it as exceeding the teams expected win total by ten or more games. Looking around message boards and some early prognostications from beat reports has the Nationals anywhere from 59 to 78 wins. I am going to say most reasonable people will be expecting the team to win around 72 games. So, in order for the Nationals to be a surprise team they have to at least win 82 games.

In order to understand where the Nationals pitching needs to go it must be understood where it has been, and that is nowhere good. A quality start is defined as a pitcher pitching six or more innings and giving up three or less earned runs. By itself it tells nothing about an individual pitcher. An innings eater with a mid 4.00 ERA and 200 innings can easily amass a good number of quality starts, but it is a measuring stick, and it is very telling when an entire pitching staff can only manage 69 quality starts when league average is 86, and it is even more telling when that same rotation can only manage to average 5.5 innings per start against a league average of 5.9. The Nationals starting rotation in 2010 was nothing short of awful.

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While the starters put up an ERA of 4.61 in 889.1 innings the bullpen was able to pitch to a 3.35 ERA over 545.2 innings. The troubling thing is as good as the bullpen was they were more often than not put in a position where they couldn't succeed. 162 times the Nationals used a reliever for more than one inning. This isn't just bad it is 32 more times than the next worst team, and 57 more times than a league average team. With starters only averaging 5.5 innings a game using a reliever for more than one inning becomes necessary.

The bullpen was the anchor of the Nationals pitching staff, but they were often put in a position to fail. Nationals' relievers entered a game with a lead 186 times and with a tie 76, both numbers are in the bottom five, while they entered the game 232 times when the team was already behind. That last number is the third most times in the National League by the way. All of this led to Nationals relievers finishing second to only Arizona in losses in relief with 29. The Nationals bullpen also led the league in times entered with a runner on base at 164 and 33% of the time at least one of those runners scored.

The Nationals last season were a team with terrible starting pitching that put a solid bullpen in a position to fail. In order for the Nationals to be a surprise team more than a few things have to go right with the starting pitching, and not much can go wrong with the bullpen. A league average team averaged 5.9 IP from the starters in 2010. It isn't hard to imagine the 2011 Washington Nationals pulling it off. A Look at Bill James projections tell us that Livan is projected to lead the staff with 218 innings followed by Lannan at 174, Wang at 140, Gorzelanny* at 133, Jordan Zimmermann at 132, and Marquis at 105. That equals out to 902 innings which is too low by around 50 innings, and it isn't hard to imagine some combination of Maya, Detwiler, an others combining to give the Nationals the necessary innings, and it also isn't hard to imagine Marquis exceeding the projected 105 innings. For his career Jason Marquis has averaged 192 IP.

*A brief aside on Gorzelanny. A few times when people asked where the Nationals top of the rotation pitcher was or where the pitching targets were a common answer given was Milwaukee and Colorado. Seeing Gorzelanny compared again and again to John Lannan with a better strike out rate I got curious and looked up Gorzelanny compared to the pitcher the Nationals lost out on to Colorado, and I don't know if this tells us more about Gorzelanny or De La Rosa.  

2010 Jorge De La Rosa: IP 121 ERA 4.22 WHIP 1.315 HR/9 1.1 BB/9 4.1 K/9 8.4 ERA+ 110 WAR 1.7

2010 Tom Gorzelanny:  IP 136 ERA 4.09 WHIP 1.496 HR/9 0.7 BB/9 4.5 K/9 7.9 ERA+ 106 WAR 2.3

Getting to an innings pitched goal is nice but a bunch of innings eaters are just that. In order for the Nationals to surprise anyone those innings are going to have to come with just a little competence. Projected ERAs for Nationals starters don't look that great, but the goal here is more to save the bullpen and let them shine. Of the pitchers projected to spend the most time in the rotation Jordan Zimmermann leads the way with a 3.75 ERA followed by Wang at 3.99, Gorzelanny at 4.06, Lannan at 4.40, Marquis at 4.46, Hernandez at 4.71, and throw in a 5.30 for a spot start or two and the Detwiler, Maya, Atilano starts and the Nationals starters can expect to pitch to a combined ERA of 4.31. In total the Nationals starters should allow 457 runs which is 3 runs higher than last season. The big difference will come from the 66 extra innings the Nationals starters should be able to pitch.  

Mike Rizzo could have sat around and ignored the bullpen. It wouldn't have been hard. Storen had a good rookie season, Sean Burnett had a break out year, and Tyler Clippard pitched well in his first full season in relief. Rizzo could have penciled those guys in as his 7th, 8th, and 9th inning guys, but he didn't. He went out and added Elvin Ramirez, Henry Rodriguez, and Todd Coffey to go along with what he already had in house. The late season emergence of Collin Balestar and the Arizona Fall League performance of Cole Kimball gives the Nationals some nice fallback options if anything goes wrong. Relievers are tough to project, but the bullpen should be thought of as a single entity often greater than the sum of its parts.

With Nationals starters projected to pitch 66 more innings than last season the bullpen will be pitching 66 fewer innings or 479 innings. Being that relievers are hard to project and some relievers don't even have Bill James projections for arguments sake I am simply going to prescribe last season's ERA of 3.35 to the 479 innings that the Nationals bullpen is expected to pitch, and if the bullpen doesn't have to pitch as much and there are talented relievers ready to take the place of any that falter then it isn't too hard to imagine them as a group pitching to the same level as last season. That ERA over that number of innings leads to a total of 178 runs allowed. Added to the runs allowed by the starters and that is 635 runs from the pitching staff. Last season's pitching staff allowed a total of 658 earned runs. Note that next week the defense will be discussed and more focus will be placed on the 84 unearned runs the Nationals gave up and what to expect from next season's defense.

If 10 runs over the course of the season equals a win then the Nationals pitching staff should be around 2.3 wins better than they were in 2010. To understand this better the Nationals pitching staff accounted for 13 WAR in 2010 and league average was 15 WAR that 2.3 win difference isn't likely a full 2 WAR but it should help the Nationals get closer to league average. For the area that the Nationals had the least amount of success on improving a 2.3 positive difference looks good, and the path from 69 wins to 82 has only begun, and next week will be the real fun when the defense is examined.     

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good read. Glad to see that somebody else is projecting Wang to contribute. I feel like he has been left off many peoples lists so far when it comes to our starting 5

by Cubsfan21 on Jan 20, 2011 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

Hope is a Good Thing

Maybe. I hope you are right, but there are so many variables and predicting the future is risky business. But it’s great to project a positive outcome. Nice post; interesting stats.

by JamesFan on Jan 20, 2011 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

I'll again get on my Bill James projections soapbox

Those numbers are truly baffling. As I mentioned before, the aging Livan hasn’t pitched 218 since 2005, and has only exceeded 185 once innings since 2007. Aside from last season, Livan has been mostly terrible the last several years. He put up numbers that would convince most managers to start to look elsewhere. It would be a shock indeed if Livan got anywhere close to 218.

Meanwhile, Jason Marquis had averaged 196 innings per season before last year, and last year he was injured. So, how he gets projected for 105 is a bit of a mystery.

It would appear that James’ projections are based very heavily (too heavily) on the previous season’s performance and the trend from its previous year. So players that spiked upward dramatically in IP (as did Livan), or downward dramatically (Marquis), would be projected to continue the surge or the decline. This runs counter to my intuition in that the pitcher should be more likely to return to long-term trends.

Rob

"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard

by RobBobS on Jan 20, 2011 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed on Bill James's Projections

That said, I do think that the staff will overall be better. And as much as I like Livo (and the crowds chant “throw slower!”), I really don’t expect him to be in the rotation by mid-season.

In my world the rotation starts Livo, Z(nn), Lannan, Marquis, Gorzelanny. Maya and Detwiler open in Syracuse, joined there shortly by Wang on his rehab assignments. By mid-season Livo is in the Batista role, replaced by either Wang or Detwiler. Marquis pitches effectively and is flipped for prospects in July, opening a rotation spot for Detwiler or Wang. Wang pitches effectively and is also flipped for prospects at the end of July, opening a rotation spot for Maya. As Z(nn) approaches his innings limit Solis and Strasburg split his starts. The Nats are eliminated from wild card competition in early September, and finish 3rd in the division.

it’s nice in my world. Well, unless you’re Livo I guess :-D

by d_c_guy on Jan 20, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You are the second person in two days to suggest that Livo takes the Batista role during the season, with my wife saying the same thing yesterday…..guess I have to start paying attention to her more often! I agree with much of what you say……except that maybe Wang actually starts in DC if he is truly fully healed and gets a full ST load; however, since he hasnt’ pitched competively for so long, he may experience the “Maya Effect” and may need time at Syracuse. If he does start right away, don’t know who he replaces. Livo? Doubt it. Marquis? 7.5mil? Doubt it. Lannan and his new raise? Doubt it. Zimmermann? The Chosen One #2? Would it really be that surprising?

Something else that seems to get lost in everyone’s evaluations, is that our rotation was so bad last year primarily due to injuries and not so much for lack of talent. Zimmermann was injured. Marquis was injured. Wang was injured. Olsen was injured (surprising….I know). Lannan was “mentally” injured…..forgot how to pitch for a minute or two (ok….that was a joke). Maya may as well had been injured…he hadn’t pitched for over a year! Mock, injured. Atilano, injured. Martin, injured. This team was never able to obtain a cohesive pitching rotation, because everytime we turned on the computer, it seemed there was a story about another pitcher hitting the DL. This season, so far, all these are coming back healed and/or ready for ST….except for Olsen and Martin. I’d say that, with the addition of Gorzelanny, accounts for a major upgrade in the staff.

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by sullyzz on Jan 20, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Stammen......

…..is my new project to cheer for. It was Morse before we signed LaRoche, and I still want to see Morse get over 400 ABs; however, Stammen has been one of my favorites for a while now, and I really wish to see him do well. Can’t understand how he can be so dominant one start, but falter so badly the next.

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by sullyzz on Jan 20, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice Article

Soo many numbers to digest haha.

by Philley32 on Jan 20, 2011 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

Like the US Military, always training to fight the last war,

and we’re getting ready for 2010. Hey, it’s a new day.

Good piece, David, but you make only two back-handed references to Yunesky Maya, who will be tons improved for 2011 – top four, just you wait (that’s right – O yea of little faith). Lannan will be there, or thereabouts; he’s a tryer. Livan just gets better with age. Znn is rounding into form. Marquis a question of condition – legs, not pitching-arm. Beyond that is anybody’s guess. Heal fast, Stras.

Anyway, that’s my slant.

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- Mickey Mantle

by Whupass on Jan 20, 2011 5:37 PM EST reply actions  

Like the SCOUT said ...

Sabermatics helps … but it cannot replace a scouts eye and experience … or that of objective, well edcuated fans. History can help to make better projects …

In other words Rizzo just might be right about Gorzelanny having an upside and ceiling. And perhaps about another ex-Pirate named Jimmy Barthmaier


The community was considerably better than ZiPS here—the projection system’s lack of knowledge of anything that isn’t a number worked against it. Based on Jim Tracy’s abuse of Gorzelanny down the stretch in 2007, two guessers predicted Gorzelanny wouldn’t pitch an inning in 2008, and others predicted he’d pitch a shortened season.

Basically, Gorzelanny has apparently taken some huge strides as a pitcher. He always missed bats in the minors but he failed to really translate that to the majors, even in 2007 he got by mostly thanks to luck on fly balls. But he looks like a totally different pitcher this year, a three-pitch lefty that misses bats and has solid command of all of his pitches. He seems like a good bet to be a solid No. 3 starter for the Cubs this year, possibly better, even if he regresses some from his currently high level. ZiPS has him finishing the year with a 3.61 FIP, and I think that’s a reasonable projection for him going forward. Credit Gorzelanny, credit the Cubs and credit pitching coach Larry Rothschild, because he’s really made some serious improvement as a pitcher in the past year.

by plebescite on Jan 20, 2011 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

thanks for finding this

A changed man, they say? Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt then.

We already know a starting rotation spot is his to lose, so I figure I should start assuming the best (or at least assuming the decently good like Lannan).

by dc Roach on Jan 21, 2011 7:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Links.

“http://www.bucsdugout.com/2008/10/16/636765/community-projection-revie”

“http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/5/22/1481716/cubs-have-gotten-new-pitcher-in”

by plebescite on Jan 20, 2011 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

On the other hand ...

the projection system’s lack of knowledge of anything that isn’t a number worked against it.

I can’t see Wang pitching 90 innings much less the 140 predicted by Bill James. Given the injury the fact he is saying he won’t be ready before sometime in May at the earliest. Riggleman’s assent to that statement.

That doesn’t obscure the fact that Rizzo wants to see progress in Spring Training. If Rizzo doesn’t see the progress he is expecting do you expect him to continue to pay Wang to rehab throughout 2011 in addition to 2010? I sure don’t.

by plebescite on Jan 20, 2011 11:36 PM EST reply actions  

I think Maya is going to be more of a factor than you indicate...

His performance in the off season has been pretty spectacular and I’m hoping that’s more of an indicator of his potential than last year’s rushed starts were.

by Dan Shields on Jan 21, 2011 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

Plus I don’t think Mr. Rizzo wants to have to tell Mr. Lerner that the 28 year old pitcher he shelled out 8 million bucks for will be pitching for the Chiefs

by PerryMason on Jan 21, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps, but Maya’s got options and they wouldn’t have signed both Gorzelanny and Wang if they were so confident that he’d be ready for DC on Opening Day. Was certainly encouraged by his Winter League stint and you hope that he’ll be ready to go with an impressive spring training. Certainly he’s one of the arms to watch during the spring.

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by souldrummer on Jan 21, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not so sure ...

Both Gorzelanny and Barthmaier spec out as the kind of pitchers Rizzo wants and feels he needs. Both have #1,#2 stuff. Even Strasburg with beyond #1 stuff needs insurance coming back from TJ.

Barthmaier is coming off of TJ like Zimmermann. My sense is that Gorzelanny if anything is competition / insurance for Jordan Zimmermann, but mostly Ross Detwiler. Detwiler is now well behind where he should be. And they had projected him as their top left-handed starter. Gorzelanny provides that top left-handed starter. He’s not Cliff Lee but he does have better velocity on his pitches.

Plus Gorzelanny is a fairly solid veteran. They sent him to the bullpen when he was arguably the best pitcher on the staff in 2010. And replaced him with Zambrano. Did it again when Zambrano was suspended. The only fear is that he may have a bit of the Marlboro man in him … hopefully, he is the better pitcher and teammate. He did the job as asked in the bullpen albeit his stats were much better when starting.

Given what happened to him with the Pirates and Cubs sure looks like he was the victim of a couple of really dysfunctional organizations … something he hopefully won’t find here.

Think of Maya as a #3 who could peg out to #2 if need be in Rizzo’s dream rotation. Kind of an heir apparent to LIvan Hernandez. Very similar stuff except much more velocity in Maya’s case. He can throw up to 94+ when Maya comes inside on hitters but prefers to sink it with less velocity. In other words if he throws too hard he gets hit hard unless he comes tight and inside.

The Lannan’s, Milone’s, Rosenbaum’s fit at the end of the rotation at #5.

Rizzo want to see his pitchers slotted where they belong. These moves are all about attempting to do that now instead of waiting for Stras.

by plebescite on Jan 21, 2011 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve always thought of Barthmaier as just as organizational depth. Does anybody else have a take on his stuff? Maya doesn’t have enough of a fastball to be a #2 starter to me. I’d take a 4th starter MLB pitcher to be honest.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Jan 21, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve found enough evidence form the Pirate’s blogs to show he could be more than just organizational depth. At this point I don’t think Rizzo is thinking along those lines for him. If Rizzo wants organizational depth in his AA/AAA rotation he keeps guys like Chuck James, etc.

Its the same deal as Gorzelanny. Pitcher misused by Pirate’s inept cheap management. Down with Tommy John’s. Helped pitch Potomac to the championship as a part of his rehab last year.

He’s a guy to watch. The Nats seem to go for cast-off Bucco talent. Wish Rizzo could somehow get McCutchen for a bunch of prospects too!

by plebescite on Jan 21, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

In other words ...

 I think he’ll be better than now released lefty Aaron Thompson for sure … plus there are other potential pitching surprises this year.

by plebescite on Jan 21, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Does Rizzo like his stuff enough to move him to the bullpen?

I’ve forgotten about Barthmaier in the Chiefs rotation and there are already too many guys likely to end up there.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Jan 21, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

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