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When the Washington Nationals acquired Garrett Mock from the Arizona Diamondbacks along with left-hander Matt Chico in an August '06 trade for Livan Hernandez, the then-23-year-old right-hander drafted out of the University of Houston two years earlier when then-Nats' Asst. GM Mike Rizzo had been the Scouting Director in Arizona, was struggling at Double-A Tennessee in his third year in the D-Backs' system. Mock had struck out 117 (8.04 K/9), but walked 50 (3.44 BB/9) in 23 starts and 131.0 IP in which he had a (4-8) record, 4.95 ERA and 4.11 FIP before the trade and a year after he'd won 14 of 28 starts with the Class-A Advanced California League's Lancaster JetHawks, striking out 160 (8.3 K/9) and walking just 33 (1.7 K/9) in 174.1 IP. Mock's strong '05 campaign landed him on the D-Backs' December '05 Top 10 Prospects list, where he was ranked 7th overall as the second-best pitcher in the system behind right-hander Dustin Nippert as part of a D-Backs' organization which had, "taken a major step forward over the last three years under the direction of scouting director Mike Rizzo," as Kevin Goldstein wrote at the time for Baseball America.

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MLB.com's Jonathan Mayo did some post-trade analysis in an August 8th '06 article entitled, "Chico, Mock bolster Nats system", in which the minor league writer noted Mock's "uneven" performances in which he'd given up high hit totals of 10.4 H/9 in '05 and 9.9 H/9 in '06 in spite of the "right-hander's stuff [which] has always graded out well, making the high hit totals even stranger." "His fastball can reach the mid-90s," Mr. Mayo wrote, "...and he's got a cutter, a slider and a curve to boot." The MLB.com writer predicted that both Mock and Chico could end up being, "back end starters when all is said and done," and though, "No one is infallible," Mr. Mayo said if Mr. Rizzo, "...sees something in this pair of starters he initially drafted, there's probably something to it.

The Nats' GM himself broke down Mock's issues in an article by MLB.com's Bill Ladson entitled, "Notes: Asst. GM high on additions":

"'[Mock] has to be more consistent with his location. That's the final hurdle for pitchers who end up really good," Rizzo said. "The stuff is there. They show flashes of it, but the inconsistency kind of fights them every so often. That happens to a lot of young pitchers.'"

Issues involving his surgically-repaired left knee limited Mock to 15 starts in 2007, in which he was (2-7) with a combined 5.12 ERA, 7.5 K's, 4.2 walks and 11.1 H/9 allowed in three stops at three levels (RK, A, AA) in the Nats' organization. After the '07 season, Mock was sent to the Arizona Fall League, where, as Washington Post writer Barry Svrluga noted in a November 8, 2007 article entitled, "Arizona Fall League: Garrett Mock", he would have to, "regain his standing in the organization, and [have] to be healthy," to make sure he was kept on the Nats' 40-Man Roster so he wouldn't be left unprotected in the Rule 5 Draft that December. Mock was (1-2) in 8 games and 7 starts in the AFL in '07, over which the right-hander led the so-called "finishing school" for the game's top prospects with 21 K's (7.18 K/9) in 26.1 IP, though he still walked 11 (3.80 BB/9) and gave up 26 hits (8.89 H/9). 

Mock remained with the Nats, and though he started the '08 season with Triple-A Columbus, he made his MLB debut that June and bounced between the majors and minors, making two spot starts before he was called up in late July to work out of the bullpen, eventually making 3 starts and 26 appearances for the Nationals that year, in which he walked 23 (5.0 BB/9), and gave up 37 hits (8.1 H/9) and 20 runs, 19 earned with 46 K's (10.1 K/9), a 4.17 ERA, 104 ERA+ and 3.84 FIP in 41.0 major league IP.

After a strong Spring Training in 2009, Mock was one of the last two relievers cut to finalize the 25-Man Roster, (in part because he had options) but he was called up by the third week of April and remained with the Nats til mid-May, when he was sent back down and began starting again. After going (6-1) with a 2.59 ERA as a starter as MLB.com's Bill Ladson reported in a 7/19/09 article entitled, "'D' does Mock no favors in Nats' defeat", Mock returned to the Majors in mid-July, and pitched strictly as a starter, going (3-8) with 7.6 K/9 collected, 4.2 BB/9 and 11.26 H/9 allowed.

When Mock was selected as the Nats' 5th starter at the end of the team's 2010 Spring Training, after battling a recovering Scott Olsen for the final spot in the Nats' rotation, MLB.com's Bill Ladson wrote in an article entitled, "Mock declared Nationals' fifth starter", that a source told him it was, "...because of his potential as a starter. The team believes he will one day become a No.3 starter," but as Mr. Ladson noted, "Mock was told that he was on a short leash and the club would quickly call up Olsen if he didn't produce on the mound." Mock made just one start, walking 5 and giving up 3 hits and 2 ER in 3.1 IP in which he threw 84 pitches against the Mets before he was optioned to Triple-A Syracuse. Mock's struggles were frustating for Nats' Pitching Coach Steve McCatty, who told Washington Post writer Adam Kilgore in a Nationals Journal post entitled, "Garrett Mock still needs to master 'Baseball 101,' plus morning links", that, "'Other than Strasburg,'" Mock, then-27, "'...probably has the best overall stuff of anybody here,'" but was still inconsistent and continued, "'[grappling] with 'all the things that [are] Baseball 101 for pitchers,' McCatty said -- getting ahead, pitching to contact, executing pitches."

After Mock's rough first start of 2010, the right-hander complained that he had been unable to grip the ball that night, and had felt a "numbness" in his hand which he'd first attributed to the relatively cold weather. Mock was optioned to Triple-A Syracuse, but ended up on the 15-Day DL a week later with what was initially described as a "nerve injury" in his neck. Mock reportedly felt, "tingling in his hand", at times, as Penn-Live.com writer Geoff Morrow wrote in a mid-August article entitled, "Garrett Mock continues recovery from neck surgery, makes rehab start with Harrisburg Senators", which caused him to, "occasionally...lose feeling altogether on the mound and unleash an errant pitch." Mock would eventually have surgery on his neck to repair what was diagnosed as a ruptured disc in his neck. 

Mock returned in early August and made six starts in the Nats' system in which he gave up 30 hits and 13 ER in 27.0 IP, telling MASNSports.com's Byron Kerr before his first rehab start in an article entitled, "Mock ready to get back in the game", that in hindsight, having fully-recovered from the injury and surgery," his hand, "'...feels brand new now. I didn't know how bad it was.'" D.C. GM Mike Rizzo said recently, in an interview with the D.C. press corps that Mock, "should be 100% ready to go at the beginning of Spring Training," and will, "compete for a rotation spot." Mock would have to be considered a long shot to make the 2011 rotation, however, and his name is left out of most conversations about the starting rotation. 

In the November '07 article by Washington Post writer Barry Svrluga quoted above, the WaPost writer speculated that a good Arizona Fall League and a good start to the season could get Mock up to Triple-A during the 2007 campaign, but for the right-hander, who was about to turn 25, Mr. Svrluga said, it's, "Time to get going." Heading into the 2011 season, the need to get going is even more urgent if Mock's to live up to the potential the Nats' general manager and pitching coach have seen in him. Seven seasons after his selection in the 3rd Round of the '04 Draft, has Mock run out of time? A year after making the starting rotation out of Spring Training, what lies ahead for Garrett Mock?

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Nice piece

Garret has hoed a hard row.
For his sake and for the Nats, good luck to him.

by PerryMason on Jan 21, 2011 8:23 AM EST reply actions  

I called him Yo Yo Mock

when he came up and got sent down so often.
I’d like for him to do well and surprise people

by gengreen17 on Jan 21, 2011 8:25 AM EST reply actions  

He does have great stuff

Better than Stammen for sure. Let’s hope that his neck and nerve issues caused his wildness and he shows up to camp with better control. I think he also has a chance to be a late-inning reliever because of his velocity. I actually think his stuff is similar to Wang’s – both are hard throwing sinkerballers. A sinker that sits 94-96 is much more effective than one at 92 because it misses more bats. I think the OD rotation will be Livo, JZ, Gorzo, Marquis, Lannan based on salary/experience. But I think the SYR rotation of Maya, Detwiller, Wang, Mock, Stammen will produce somebody that will put some heat on the weakest performer, which could ultimately be Lannan. I also expect Livo to move to the long man role at some point with the combination of a bullpen guy faltering and a SYR starter pitching well. Livo was pretty lucky in addition to everything else last year so a regression should be expected of him. It could all come down to how much racquetball he played this winter.

by rfk428 on Jan 21, 2011 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

Lot of people questioning Lannan's future these days from what I read...

#WaitingfortheinevitableLivoregressionyoumaywaitawhileLivanistehmajik

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jan 21, 2011 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Lannan will be fine. Not spectacular. Just solid at keeping the Nats in the game for 5 or 6 innings.
Like last year, I think Livo will have games when he gets lit up and then everyone will start saying I told you so, then he’ll go out and have 4 or 5 strong outings in a row. This is probably going to be his final year in Natstown and I’m going to enjoy it while it lasts.
Viva Livo! Viva Mr. National!

by PerryMason on Jan 21, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Great piece ..

Patrick thanks for the hard work this offseason it has kept me and I am sure others going while we wait till ST. I know I mainly have been lurking all off season but I sure have enjoyed your work.

by NewJerseyAveSE on Jan 21, 2011 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

btw is the Federal Baseball crew doing anything on opening day ? cookout ? etc.

I live over on Delaware Ave. near the ball park ( 2 blocks ) and have some outdoor grills etc. if folks are taking the day from work ….

by NewJerseyAveSE on Jan 21, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm planning on taking the day off - some sort of festivities would seem appropriate

Living two blocks from the ballpark would be like nirvana for me. When they were originally talking about locations for the stadium, one of the locations was in Rosslyn basically right down the hill from my house (where Riverplace is, a block from the Rosslyn Metro and next to Route 50 and the GW Parkway). I was geeked at the thought of being able to walk to baseball, but ultimately it would have been really hard to make it work.

Fortunately, I do work within a 20-25 minute walk to the park, so weekday evening games are pretty easy to get to.

by d_c_guy on Jan 21, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm planning on taking the day off and hopefully bringing my daughter if the weather is nice.

Would love to have a meetup with people before the game.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents. As are we all."
---Malachi Constant

by The Herndon Kid on Jan 21, 2011 12:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I like Mock’s stuff, but if I remember right, he made excuses when he had bad outings.

by RoscoeNats on Jan 21, 2011 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

You're right

He seems to be something of a head case, which is a big part of his problem. But I consider his upside higher than Lannan.

Lannan is what he is, which is a solid back-of-the-rotation guy. My hope is that we have enough guys with higher ceilings fulfill some of their potential and simply beat him out of a spot. He is left handed though, which certainly works in his favor.

by rfk428 on Jan 21, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sad when Lannan is a team’s opening day starter for two years.

If Mock could get the killer instinct, he could kick major butt.

by RoscoeNats on Jan 21, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd love to see Mock made into a closer

I think he’d be nasty there. of course, i feel the same about Ballly Star, and he’s got more of the personality profile for the job.

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Jan 21, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

If nothing else Bally’s got that Dennis Eckersley look to him

by PerryMason on Jan 21, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

That train left the station when he didn’t cut it as a reliever the first time. I’m concerned about all of the other relievers that we’re bringing it and how it affects Bally’s chances. He really impressed me at the end of last year.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Jan 21, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

different motivation can sometimes lead to different results

two years ago, Mock was still young enough to be resistant. if the Nats come to him with a Bally-like directive now that he’s 28, it could be a different story.

but yeah, I liked what Bally did last year and have high hopes for him this year too.

see, I’m not ALL negative.

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Jan 21, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

NPUT

Huzzard’s Evolutions are up

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Jan 21, 2011 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

I’ve been meaning to ask what the heck “NPUT” stands for.

Never Polish Uranium Teeter-totters?

by PerryMason on Jan 21, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

“New Post Up Top”

Believe Pig.pen brought the term here.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Jan 21, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Good stuff, Patrick.

As usual.

I was taken aback a bit by some of these collected comments from team management in re Mock. Things like “short leash”, “needs to learn baseball 101”, etc., are unusual for an organization that typically does not publicly criticize its players. Perhaps they see Mock as having some motivational issues, or that he’s “soft”. I have no idea — if this is indeed the case then that’s too bad for Mock.

Mock definitely has some talent, but he’s also been very inconsistent. He has shown flashes of brilliance: I’ve seen him make good hitters look silly. But sometimes his pitches end up in the middle of the zone and get hit hard; sometimes he can’t find the zone at all. Can the team “motivate” him into consistency? Is that their goal?

I don’t see any way that Mock goes north with the team to start the season; a solid spring will not be enough. But he might be able to jostle his way to the front of the AAA line if he shows that consistency in March.

Rob

"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard

by RobBobS on Jan 21, 2011 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

What’s Mock’s options situation? I always wonder about that. I’ve heard differing opinions. I’d like to see him start in Syracuse and pitch so well that he demands a rotation spot. He’s certainly earned it. I’d like to see the tradable veterans start in the rotation this year (Gorzelanny, Marquis, Livo) and then pitch well enough to get traded for some more prospect depth, especially at first base, even a platoon prospect at first base would do us some good and then have the younger guys I’d really like to see do well like Detwiler and Mock pitch themselves back into the conversation from Syracuse.

I don’t really expect Mock to do much for DC this year and this is probably his last rodeo. But he’s a very intriguing arm and I want to see him as a stalwart for Syracuse who solidifies the control concerns. He’s not really a guy that I think needs to necessarily be in the bigs to develop. He just needs innings to see if he can get that location stuff down. On the other hand, I think that Maya does need to be in the bigs. I think that he’ll be able to guile guys out in AAA and AA. But with superior scouting by the opposition and with his inferior fastball, we need to see whether he looks like MLB material quickly.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Jan 21, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm led to believe that he has one more option year

This would be dependent on whether they used an option last year. I don’t think they did, because his time in the minors was all as a rehab stint.

Rob

"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard

by RobBobS on Jan 21, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I’ve thought. So he has one year at Syracuse to prove that he can get into the 2012 rotation mix. There are slots available in 2012 and he can be one of the options to replace Livo or Marquis if he impresses at Syracuse.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Jan 21, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I would *strongly* prefer

that he has a great spring, starts at AAA, Livo falters and becomes the long guy, and Mock takes his spot (by the throat) by June. Best case scenario.

Rob

"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard

by RobBobS on Jan 21, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not rooting for any of our guys to falter. Any guy who falters weakens the organization. I’d prefer that more of our guys succeed and become tradable assets.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Jan 21, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I just don't envision Livo coming out of the pen in any situation

He’s too veteran to “demote” like that, I think. I think if he’s not effective enough to start and go seven innings, which has always been his calling card, they will release him. There’s no point in carrying Livo as a middle reliever on this roster.

Again, just my opinion.

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Jan 21, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You're probably right

I just think it would take a monumental collapse for them to resort to this measure, but only a simple regression back to projection to possibly move him to the ’pen.

Rob

"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard

by RobBobS on Jan 21, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

A simple regression to projection...

would be a monumental collapse :-)

 to go from three-point-something ERA to five-point-something is pretty dramatic!

Your voice of doom and gloom. Read more at natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com

by Dave at District Sports Page on Jan 21, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes,

when a guy with a lower ceiling is blocking a guy with potential, it’s better both in the short and long term for a “bit o’ falter” to instigate the changing of the guard. Livo does not fit into the long-term plans of the team. The sooner he begins his graceful exit, the better.

Rob

"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard

by RobBobS on Jan 21, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't disagree with the larger point, BUT

I’ll root for him to continue to pitch from the racquetball-influenced fountain of youth, and end up flipped for another set of prospects (See, e.g., Mock) for down the road. That way a door is opened, but the Nats still have a chance at .500 … and maybe (dream of dreams!) 3rd place!

by d_c_guy on Jan 21, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

3rd Place?

I’m ready for Zimmermann, Detwiler, Stammen, Mock and Maya to teach the Phillies “Dream Team Rotation” HOW TO PITCH! Let’s take it all! LOL

"Integrity First, Service Before Self, Excellence In All We Do" - USAF Core Values

by sullyzz on Jan 22, 2011 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

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