Signing LaRoche Is Money Well Spent
Upon sharing my approval of the signing of Adam LaRoche by the Nationals, I was challenged by my friend William.Hatheway (end of this thread) to demonstrate why paying millions for a player who provides just 2 WAR at 1st base is a winning proposition, when the money could have been spent elsewhere to potentially greater effect in terms of WAR.
As William pointed out, if LaRoche were playing a position like 3rd base he would be more valuable (assuming he is an average defender at both positions). There is truth in this. However, being a replacement level player at 1st base requires more offensive production than any other position on the field, so having LaRoche at 1st base has its own value.
Let's dive into the numbers:
LaRoche has a 3 year average of 2.1 WAR playing at 1st base. If he played 3rd, his WAR would jump by approximately 1.5 WAR per year because of positional adjustments (15 runs = 1.5 wins). At 3rd base, ignoring lost defense, he would be worth 3.6 WAR (compare Zim's 5.4 WAR).Take by comparison a replacement level 3rd baseman. If he makes the reverse switch, he would have to produce an additional 15 runs just to be replacement level at 1st. (For those worried, defense only contributes a small percentage of WAR)
Let's look at LaRoche's hypothetical 3rd base WAR. The closest comparisons by 3 year average WAR at 3rd are Casey Blake and Scott Rolen. Blake earns $5.25m, Rolen earns $8.75m. Now obviously in real life, these guys are far better defenders than LaRoche, but if we wanted LaRoche's production at 3rd base, we'd need to spend just as much money.
Paying for a replacement level 1st baseman isn't free either. Replacement level players don't get played at 1st base for very long, which is why there is no replacement level 1st baseman who's played for all three of the past three years. Looking at just 2010, we find one 1st base free agent who produced a 0.0 WAR - Jorge Cantu who split time between 1st base and 3rd base (meaning he was actually sub-replacement for 1st). He made $6 million last year, a contract he got coming off of a 1.3 WAR season. He produced something in line with Ian Desmond (1.1 WAR; adjusted -0.9 WAR at 1st base).
If we were to use Desmond's bat at 1st base, move Zimm or Werth to SS (Werth can totally swing it) and buy a 3B or RF to replace LaRoche's bat, how much would it cost? 3B we've already looked at - expect a base salary of what 37 year old Casey Blake gets - $5.25 million, but probably something closer to Rolen's $8.75 million. RF the closest comparisons (position adjusted) are Bobby Abreu, who will make $9 million in 2011 and Vladimir Guerrero (age 35), who made $5.5 million in 2010.
Paying for a free agent with the value in WAR that LaRoche gives us would cost roughly the same amount regardless of what position we pay at. The equivalent of 2.1 WAR at 1st base costs around $8 million, unless you have a young guy under team control or sign an aging veteran.
One alternative would be signing Adam Dunn (average 2.1 WAR over 3 years) for $14 million a year. Not that that's relevant to this discussion.
My conclusion is that paying Adam LaRoche $8 million to play 1st base for us is a solid use of that money. He's no steal, but he's worth what he is paid, and spending that money elsewhere would not give us a greater return on our investment.
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Nice response!
You got my head spinning a bit, so it might take me a while to really follow, but it looks like some creative thinking going on…
Thanks for the fun debate!
by William.Hatheway on Jan 7, 2011 2:42 PM EST reply actions
I hope I wasn't too "creative"
I had more numbers at one point, but I started confusing myself so I cut back to keep it “simple” and logical.
Thanks for providing the challenge. I enjoy this stuff.
I'm sorry, but this doesn't make sense to me
If I tell you that the broken-down ramshackle of a house you are buying in Washington Highlands would be worth $1.5M if only it were located in Georgetown, so you should go ahead and fork over the $1.5M, you’d probably take off running.
Rob
"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard
by RobBobS on Jan 7, 2011 3:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
gah
I can shenannigans on your comparison. Baseball players are not like houses, and positions are not like real estate locations. You need a dynamic model where the house has real inherent value which is only moderately affected by location.. or something.
Ah, but see...
location is everything. If Desmond hit like a first baseman next year, he’d be an MVP candidate.
Rob
"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard
that street is only one way
and it goes the other way
A shortstop as valuable as LaRoche would be top 3 in the league like, say, along the lines of Hanley Ramirez last year. And he’s making about $15 per year in free agency, and is underpaid.
We are in violent agreement
However, if Desi outhits LaRoche, it’ll probably be because LaRoche is overpaid.
One more thing. The correct term is “Hanley (spit)™”
Rob
"Valentines day is really the day pitchers and catchers report, and those are truly words of love.." -- David Huzzard
[spits]™
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 7, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
If Desi outhots LaRoche
LaRoache could be overpaid, and Desi could be an allstar.
Aim for the head baby Jesus

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