Center Field Options for 2012
I thought I'd give a crack at what legitimate options the Nats have at the center field position in 2012. I think the ultimate success or failure of this offseason will rest on whether the Nats find a solid, potentially long term answer at the position. If the Nats want to seriously contend for a playoff spot next year, they either need a very solid stopgap solution, or a long-term answer at the position.
Option #1 - Internal
1) Rick Ankiel - Ankiel got 380 AB in the outfield in 2011 with fairly solid results (+2.1 WAR), but does the front office really consider him an option in 2012? My sense is no. Although his 2.1 WAR was solid, +1.7 of it came on defense, which seems like more of an anomaly than anything else. From 2007-2010, Ankiel put up a combined +0.7 WAR on defense, so I can't imagine another repeat stellar defensive effort, even though his arm is certainly among the best in the majors. The bigger issue for Ankiel seems to be his vanishing offensive production. His .239, .298, .659 line is just not good enough to be relied on, and he is not getting any younger at 32. I want Ankiel back in 2012, but not as a starter in CF.
2) Roger Bernadina - Bernadina got 309 AB in the outfield in 2011, and put up a respectable +0.8WAR splitting time between center and right field, but I can't imagine anyone in the front office imagines him starting in CF next year. Bernadina might be a solid 4th outfielder, but he just simply hasn't shown enough offensive production to justify being looked at. His .243 .301 .664 line was fairly close to what he put up last year (.246 .307 .691), but the low OBP and bad BB/K ratio are real red flags here. Defensively, he might be league average, but also has shown a propensity to take awkward routes in CF. At 27, Bernadina really can't be seen as anything more than a 4th outfielder.
3) Move Jayson Werth to CF, find a Corner Outfielder - This is an intriguing option, but at 32, is Jayson going to be able to make the shift from right to center? He has been an average to slightly above average RF in his career (+0.4 WAR on defense last year), but center field is obviously a much more demanding position. I think Rizzo and the front office sees this as a possibility, but probably not an ideal situation. On the plus side, it would be much easier to acquire a corner outfielder than a center fielder on the free agent market.
Option #2 - Free Agency
1) Coco Crisp - Crisp will be 32 in November, and had one of the worst years of his career last year with the bat, putting up a .264 .314 .693 line (+2.1 WAR). Crisp has never batted for a particularly high average (career .275 hitter), but has been an adept base stealer throughout his career. Last year was no exception, as he stole 49 bases and only got caught just 9 times. Defensively, Crisp has been an above average center fielder in his career (+5.8 WAR on defense), but his deteriorating range led to a -0.1 WAR in the field in 2011. Even if Crisp's BABIP returns to around .300 next year, and even if he benefits from the comfier confines of Nationals Park, I can't imagine Crisp doing much better than .270 .330 .720 next year --- good enough to be considered an option, but maybe not an ideal option.
2) David DeJesus - Fellow Athletic Dejesus had a down year last year, but definitely fits the bill as a high OBP guy (career .356 OPB). Dejesus was also one of the most unlucky hitters last year, posting a .274 BABAP. The problem is that I don't think Dejesus is physically able to play the position anymore--- he was used almost exclusively in RF last year, and while he is an above average fielder at that position, center field is a whole other beast for a guy who turns 32 in December.
3) Cody Ross - Ross had a bit of a down year in 2011, posting a .240 .325 .730 line in SF, good enough for a +1.6 WAR. Ross might have a bit unlucky last year (.279 BABIP), but the low average and relatively low OBP are not ideal. He might be a stopgap solution though--- his 14 home runs in 400 AB last year in SF (half of his games were in a massive stadium) are impressive, and he will only be 31 next year. His postseason success is also probably worth a note. I don't think anyone is rushing to sign Ross, but he's probably a backup option. I still think SF will resign him though, as they don't really have an internal option besides him.
4) Nate McLouth - A high OPB guy, but his bat has simply disappeared in the past few years, and can't be considered an option.
5) Carlos Beltran - Still an excellent hitter, but simply not a center fielder anymore at 35 years old.
Option #3 - Players who might not have their options picked up (we will know exactly who is on this list in about a week)
1) Grady Sizemore - Sizemore is an interesting possibility, and I do think the Indians will decline his $9 million option, but the major injuries in the past few years are seriously problematic. Given two major knee surgeries, and now an additional arthroscopic surgery, can anyone really rely on Sizemore to stay healthy for a whole year? Moreover, he has posted -UZR ratings in center field the past three years--- is his body even able to handle the responsibilities of CF anymore? The power is clearly still in his bat (.422 SLG in limited AB last year), but the BB/K ration collapsed last year, which is another red flag. You would love to be the benefactor of a Sizemore resurgence, but I just don't think the Nats are the team that is going to give him that chance. Maybe the Nats of 2007 or 2008 would have, but not the Nats of 2012.
2) Angel Pagan - This name has been talked about some on the boards. The Mets would have to decline his option, which I don't think they'll do, since they don't have a real internal alternative to Pagan in their organization. Some have speculated that the Mets would move Bay to CF, but this doesn't make a ton of sense to me. If Pagan does hit the market, he would be an interesting stopgap option. Pagan put up a meager +0.2 WAR last year, but most of that came from an inexplicable defensive performance (-1.7 WAR on defense, well below career averages). Moreover, in 2009-2010, Pagan averaged a .300 .345 .800 line, which I'm sure the Nats would be thrilled with. He would also surely benefit from leaving CitiField. I'm sure the Nats will be interested if Pagan hits the market, but probably only as a 1 or 2 year flyer. At 30 years of age, Pagan probably has another year or two of average to above average production in him.
3) Marlon Byrd - Oh, how the Nats would have loved to keep Byrd between 2007-2010, when he managed to be a very above average center fielder (~+10 WAR during those four years). At 34, however, and coming off one of the worst years of his career, Byrd is not really a legitimate option for 2012.
Option #4 - Trades!
Mike Rizzo has explored this route several times over the past year. Is this the year the Nats finally find a solution to the CF problem through trades? None of the internal or free agent options are superb, so I'm sure the front office will explore a number of trade options over the offseason. Here are a few names that I think make sense from the Nats standpoint.
#1) B.J. Upton - He becomes a free agent after next year, and he is clearly an above average center fielder both with the bat and the glove (3.8 WAR last year). Upton has also been remarkably consistent over the last several years. The Rays must be looking to move him since he becomes an expensive free agent after next year, and because they have a fantastic internal replacement in Desmond Jennings waiting to move to center field. Upton will make about $10 million next year through arbitration, so he won't be cheap, but he is certainly a stopgap option. Upton is also just 27, so he should put up good numbers next year wherever he plays. That said, Upton is only a 1 year solution, so how much should we be willing to pay for a rent-a-player? Also, the Rays always seem to come out ahead on trades--- does Rizzo really want to test history?
#2) Denard Span - Span nearly became a Nat at the free agent deadline, and I'm sure Rizzo is pleased he didn't pull the trigger on that trade, as Span suffered a concussion that rendered him useless for the remainder of the year. It has been hard to gather information on Span's condition now, but assuming he returns to full health next year, he once again becomes a serious trade possibility. Span is under team control through 2015, and his contract is not particularly expensive (5years/16.5mil). He also fits the bill as a high OBP guy, having put up a .361 OBP in his career. The twins also appear willing to move Span, as they have defensive whiz Ben Revere waiting in the ranks. Span will be 28 when the season starts, so he should be relied on to put up good numbers for a number of years, assuming he is healthy. If the Twins expect to get Drew Storen or some package of Desmond, Lannan, and prospects back in return, however, the price may be too high for the Nats.
#3) Peter Bourjos - Bourjos quietly put up a fantastic +5.0 WAR last year with steller defense and unexpected offensive production (.271 .327 .765). The Angels also have a very crowded outfield situation, with Mike Trout waiting to take over (presumably) center field soon, and Bobby Abreu, Vernon Wells, and Torii Hunter already entrenched. But how much would Bourjos cost? He is just 24 years old and coming off a great year --- it would probably cost a number of prospects and major league contributors just to get him. Given that Bourjos may be overvalued now (he was also quite lucky last year, having posted a .338 BABIP), I think Rizzo looks elsewhere.
#4) Melky Cabrera or Lorenzo Cain (Royals) - The Royals have a logjam at center field right now. Melky Cabrera is under contract for another year, but they also have 25 year old prospect Lorenzo Cain wasting away in AAA. Cain has put up good, albeit not fantastic numbers at AAA the past two years, and is the better defensive player. Cabrera put up career numbers in 2011 with the bat (.305 .339 .809), good for a +4.8 WAR with the bat. The problem for Cabrera is that he has poor range in center field, and he posted a very poor -1.9 WAR in the field. Looking at advanced stats, Cabrera also got lucky last year (.332 BABIP), so he shouldn't be expected to replicate his 2011 performance in 2012. The Royals are certainly shopping one of these players (probably Cabrera), but I'm not sure the Nats want to overpay for one year of Cabrera, or take a gamble on unproven Lorenzo Cain.
#5) Bryan Petersen (Marlins) - Peterson was all but forgotten after a poor 2010 campaign in which he posted mediocre numbers at the AAA level. Last year was a different story --- Petersen destroyed AAA pitching during the first half of the year and proceeded to perform fairly well in a short major league stint (.265 .357 .744, +1.7 WAR). Rizzo must love the high OBP, which has been a trademark of his minor league resume. Defensively, Petersen is considered an average fielder, and other than making one particularly egregious error against the Nats, he performed fine in center field last year. The Marlins might be willing to move Peteren, since they could easily move Bonafacio to center field (arguably his more natural position) and let mega-prospect Matt Dominguez start the year at 3B. At 25, and under team control for several years, Petersen should be kept on your offseason radar.
Other notes--- The market for center fielders next year appears much stronger, so it is possible that Rizzo looks for a stopgap solution and tries to get a longer term solution next year. Free Agent Center Fielders next year include Shane Victorino, Matt Kemp, Michael Bourn, and Curtis Granderson among others.
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Probably not
By all accounts, the two best options (Perez, Komatsu) are a couple of years away. The in-house alternative some are putting forward is Werth as a stopgap while Harper gains more seasoning and learns the nuances of OF play. The Nats are having Harper learn all 3 OF positions, so CF is a possiblility (Craig Biggio with more power and without the time at 2B).
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The Nationals certainly can't plan around him at this point
But for now Corey Brown still has a spot on the 40 man roster. He had three bad months at Syracuse but finished with a few good weeks (including being IL Player of the Week once in August); his callup in September wasn’t entirely a courtesy. Although his final stat line from AAA was lousy (.235/.326/.402), over the last few weeks of the season he put up a .330/.413/.509 with 5 of his 14 HRs. I’ve seen two reasons given for the disparity: (1) he recovered slowly from the ankle injury that he suffered in Spring Training; and (2) he was trying to change his hitting mechanics – he only got hot after asking the coaches if he could go back to hitting “his” way.
Regardless, first he’s got to get healthy – a staph infection in the knee is no joke. His hold on a 40 man roster spot is pretty much dependent on other moves that the Nationals make, but he’s not going to be DFA’d a la Elvyn Ramirez just yet. And no matter how you slice it, at 26 2012 is a make or break year for Brown.
You're right
I forgot about Brown (Syracuse was niggling at me, but I ignored it). As you say, though, he was less than impressive most of the year, and has to recover from the staph infection and debridement.
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Just adding him to the discussion
By early July I had pretty much written him off, but he at least got a toehold on the radar screen by finishing up the way he did in Syracuse. Now all he needs to do is to get healthy and prove that wasn’t a fluke. Easy, right?
Not really
Perez, Goodwin, Taylor are all at least a year away, Komatsu is really the only one who I think would even have a chance at solving our problems.
MOAR SEVERINO!
Might also look at the Rockies' Dexter Folwer
Folwer posted .268/.363/.426 as a lead-off hitter. Some of that will drop moving out of the Rockies hitter firendly park, but the rockies might be willing to deal him. They have Charlie Blackmon, Carlos Gonzalez, and have Tim Wheeler doing very well in AA (and surviving in AFL). The Rockies will be looking to fill a number of positions (SP, RP, 2B, corner OF). John Lanan or Tom Gorzalanney might be a workable trade pieces. We could also offer some relievers, perhaps Sean Burnett . We have extra pitching, especially if we re-sign Wang or acquire a another SP. Additionally, if we were short in the pen, we could re-sign Livo as a long-man, spot starter. I know many think that he is totally done, but I think that he might have a few effective innings left in him. He was still effective early last season posting a 3.81 ERA through the end of June. There is no place for him the currently crowded Nationals bullpen, but they could stand to lose some strength there for solid CF/lead-off hitter.
Definitely a possibility...
I probably should have included Fowler in this, but I wasn’t aware that the Rockies had as much depth at the position as you noted.
The one knock on Fowler is his defense—- he was good for a -6.8 UZR/150 last year. Better than Melky Cabrera and Angel Pagan, but still well below league average.
The 12.1 % walk rate is nice, but Fowler was also lucky last year: he posted a .354 BABIP. There are some nice nuggets with him, but the combination of a friendly stadium, good luck, poor defense, and mediocre speed are not ideal. But I suppose none of these options are ideal, so there.
by John Yarchoan on Oct 26, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a fan
I moved to Denver and attended a number of Rockies games this year. I only learned two things about going to Coors Field : the “TU-LO!” chant is really fun to participate in, and Dexter Fowler doesn’t catch ANY balls that force him to run away from home plate. I would point it out to friends who came with me for the first time, “Hey, see the CF, Fowler? He’ll have at least one line drive casually bounce over his head and give the other guys a double or a triple when any other CF would have easily run to catch it.”
Yeah, he's not perfect
but none of these guys are. We aren’t getting Andrew McClutchen. However, the defensive stats say he’s only kind of bad on defense.
Great stuff!
(also going to have to check out Fowler); I really like how you covered this. I myself had posed DeJesus as a stopgap RF (Werth in CF) but I agree he is limited, and I never really thought about trades which is stupid, considering all of our trading chips. I particularly appreciate your noting Petersen (not that I know what I think, since I haven’t looked into it myself) since I never heard of him. My only minor, minor gripe is that Crisp’s SBs were worthless once you break down the WPA (the only time that stat means anything): his CS were generally really bad, and his successes were generally really worth shit. But great stuff, man.
by William.Hatheway on Oct 26, 2011 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks!
I did a little more research on Petersen’s defense:
His arm was well above average last year (+2.2), and in just 316 innings he ranked 8th among all eligible center fielders (out of about 45 that qualified).
His range was slightly above average (+1.0)
He committed slightly more errors than average at the position (-0.3)
In total, he posted a 2.9 UZR, +13.0 UZR/150. That +13.0 UZR/150 was better than one highly regarded center fielder—— Rick Ankiel (11.6 UZR/150). In short, I might have actually under-evaluated his defense in his 3 months last year. I think he is an intriguing name, but I haven’t heard it come up in any rumors or anything, so we’ll see.
by John Yarchoan on Oct 26, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty thorough listing
I’d like to see rizzo take a shot at cain or fowler with lannan being the main trading chip (as that would also open a spot for det or milone or peacock).
I’ d also like to see them sign dejesus. Agree that he’s likely not an everyday cf, but he gts on base, would be a good fourth outfielder, and would add flexibility in case they wanted to (and could) trade laroche and move morse back to 1b.
I don't know that the Royals would really go for trading Cain for Lannan
with Lannan making $5 million next year, he would be a sizable portion of the Royals salary. But they might make the swap because they have a number of other outfielders in the system both reasonably close Tim Smith, David Lough. And a few potential superstars in the background Will Meyers, Bubba Starling.
Jason Bourne
Big mistake not trading for Bourne…………the Braves got him for a steal………..
Michael Bourne
Although I do agree – getting Jason Bourne for the Nationals would be awesome. That guy is an unstoppable force!
And how are we going to get all those Minis off the field?
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Option #5 The Rule 5 Draft
We could scoop an unprotected CF from AAA.
Advantages:
Cheap
Young
No loss of other talent
Downsides:
Might suck
Very best talents are likely protected
Possible targets
Che-Hsuan Lin
split time between AA and AAA, with rough switch. (.373 OBP before .325 after). Walks well (13% in AA, 10% in AAA). No stats on fielding, but very positive reports. http://firebrandal.com/2011/07/02/che-hsuan-lin-is-pawsoxs-death-to-flying-things/ Also, Taiwanese champion sprinter and high-jumper.
Starling Marte
Hitting well in AA for the Pirates. (.332/.370/.500) low walk rate 3.8% Marc Hulet at Fangraphs rated Marte a top-10 prospect writing the following: Marte swings a mean stick but he doesn’t possess much power (.117 ISO), and his main tool right now is his speed (22 steals in 60 games). Unfortunately, his approach at the plate leaves a lot to be desired for his skill set. He has a low walk rate (4.7 BB%) and a high strikeout rate (26.6 K%). Some of his lack of power in ’10 was a result of a broken hamate bone. He uses an inside-out swing and takes a small stride. It’s hard to project much, if any, power in his current swing mechanics. Defensively, Marte projects to be a plus center-fielder and he has a strong arm. If he cannot hit enough to be a starter, he could make an excellent fourth outfielder.
Kirk Nieuwenhuis
This guys is unlikely to come our way. A top Mets prospect, but had season-ending sugery on his non-throwing shoulder in July so they might not protect him on the 40-man hoping that others will take a pass on the injured man.
Here is Marc Hulet’s take:
Estimated Peak WAR: 4.5
Notes: Nieuwenhuis hits from a crouch and has average bat speed, which limits his power potential and could see him end up with a similar profile to Reed Johnson. Like the former Jay and Cub, this Mets prospect will let things fly in the outfield and isn’t afraid to dive for balls. At double-A, the 23-year-old outfielder produced a solid line of .289/.337/.510 in 394 double-A at-bats and received a promotion to triple-A where he produced modest numbers in 120 at-bats. Nieuwenhuis showed good power numbers at double-A and posted an ISO rate of .221 but his homer totals in the Majors should sit between 15 and 20 during a full season. He could stand to improve his contact numbers after posting a strikeout rate of 23.6 K% in double-A and 32.5 K% in triple-A. Nieuwenhuis may end up in a platoon role unless he improves against southpaws.
Why are you using an over 1 year old scouting report?
Marte is the Pirates #3 prospect. He hit .338 in AA, still can’t take a walk, K’d less, played a full year, had something like 60 extra base hits, just turned 23 this month, and is very good defensively. He is a 300% lock to be 40 man’d.
thaks for the post
sadly the only names that peak my interest are the first three listed as trade possibilities. The upside is we have plenty to offer in assets being sought (SP, RP, C, middle IF) as those are the positions we have budding logjams. It will all come down to price tag, IMO, because no way does Rizzo stick with the in-house options for 2012.
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Komatsu has an outside chance at taking the job next Spring
and should get far more of a mention here. Frankly, I am seriuosly rooting for him. He walks way above average for a baseball player. He plays decent CF, and he is super fast. Not much power, but could develope gap type power. I am hoping he has an ungodly spring and taskes the job. We really need more patience in our lineup and this guy brings tons of patience.
My gut tells me we sign Grady Sizemore. At first everyone is yippee, then about midseason we are gosh this guy has really gone sour since 2008. I hope I am wrong though!
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
One non "prospect" to look at
is Chris Rahl, who was just resigned. He put up decent numbers in AA Harrisburg, and put up decent numbers last year with AAA Reno is Arizona’s system. The main thing holding him back his his K/BB ration at 100/23 last year. Hes not worth getting excited over, but is at least worth looking into
MOAR SEVERINO!
Rahl vs Komatsu
if you compare Rahl’s numbers vs Komatsu’s numbers you find that on average Rahl’s speed numbers are all better. Stolen bases, doubles and , triples are all higher despite playing more seasons at higher levels. HR numbers are almost the same with Rahl a little higher. The eye test also shows me Rahl is faster than Komatsu, and his arm is much better.
but Komatsu gets on base, which is what the team needs.
The Nationals are not going to be hurting for power as a team, they don’t need it from CF.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
The only problem with Rahl is the Brian Bixler/Jorge Padilla factor
guy who performe good at a younger age, have a signifactly better transition than older guys. The older players rarley stick in the majors, much less be a servicable starter. I think I would trust Komatsu more, but Rahl is at least worth keeping an eye on
MOAR SEVERINO!
options declined
Grady Sizemore and Nate McLouth both had their option declined.
Sign me up for Sizemore
Injuries are a concern, but if he stays healthy, eeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
Also, would make the Bartolo Colon trade from the Expos days a bit less painful
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He'd have to come pretty cheap
Or at least he’d have to be willing to sign an incentive-laden contract. I don’t trust his health.
Rob
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I do not trust Sizemores health either.
He may also have lost some of his skills permamanently to injury as well.
McLouth is over rated. He was traded by the Pirates and the Braves are not interested in keeping him after the trade.
I would accepot either of these guys for dirt cheap, but nothing more.
"What you know is often the enemy of what you can learn" Bill James
I see only two guys on this list
that would be playing CF for a Nats playoff team: Sizemore and Span.
And, of course, both are HUGE question marks due to health issues. I wouldn’t mind seeing the Nats get either one of them, but with such a high risk, it’s got to be reasonable cost / incentive-laden contracts (which probably rules out Span, since he’d have to be aquired via trade).
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Yoenis Cespedes or Cepedes
Who is this guy? I mean I gather that he is Cuban and that he might be available. Could he be the answer? I’m guessing he’s just a huge unknown, but does anyone know anything about him?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/quick-hits-ordonez-.html
Good get - I actually came over here to post the same link and questions
One real concern is whether he is actually 26, although I don’t know whether the Cubans have had the same age issues as Dominicans have in the past. The article cited Kilgore as saying the Nationals had “multiple talent evaluators on hand at [Cespedes’s] workout.”
On the comment thread, fans of the Nationals, Mets, Marlins, Braves, Yankees, Blue Jays, Tigers, Cubs, and Giants all have him going to “their” teams LOL
Kilgore said his arm wasn't that good
Makes me wonder how badly we would want him… I remember Morgan’s arm… and I sure like Ankiel’s a lot better. Maybe we could morph the two of them together…
You can get by with a mediocre arm in CF
Bernie Williams didn’t have a great arm – neither did Mickey Rivers (although he had a really fast release and was accurate, which helped). I’d still happily take their equivalent in CF in a nanosecond.
Work with what you know :)
Would you rather he mention the lesser Willies (McGee and Wilson)?
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jbg is right ... it's what I know best
I did meet Mickey Rivers at Fantasy Camp; he has a very weird way with the English language. With two outs and two on while holding a one run lead I managed to get Mickey to pop up to the SS … who staggered around, staggered around, and dropped the ball to give up the tie (we lost to the Legends when Pepitone hit a fly to right that the RF called, pounded his glove, then watched in astonishment as the ball landed 10 feet behind him – player skill level in Fantasy Camp is pretty hit or miss :-).
Paul Blair was in that camp, too. Although he did play for the Yankees (most famously, he was the player sent out to replace Reggie Jackson in the middle of an inning of a nationally broadcast game when Billy Martin thought Jackson had loafed on a fly ball), I always will think of Blair as an Oriole.
Maybe this isn't the guy for us
We know very, very little about him. Kilgore reported the Nationals have scouted him for some time. However, this guy seems to be more toolsy less skills.
We need a high-OBP, plus-defending CF. His speed is supposedly very good, but I am more curious about his route-taking and arm. I would like the Nationals to have Cespedes take some pitches from Milone or Livo, while telling Milone to throw him nothing but barely there strikes and balls just outside the zone.
I read some report comparing him with Mike Trout, and who wouldn’t love the idea of slotting Trout into their line up.
Melky Cabrera acquired by the San Francisco Giants.
He off the market. San Francisco Giants are out of the market for CF.
Well, to be fair,
Defense is much more important to a CF generally than it is to a 1b.
by d_c_guy on Nov 8, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
bada-BING!
I can’t decide if Cabrera is overrated or underrated. He may well be better than his raw numbers (he certainly has a respectable number of walkoff hits to his credit), but you can’t overlook the raw numbers, either. Not that they’re terrible, they’re just not very good.
by d_c_guy on Nov 8, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I"ve also never been impressed with him as a CF
weak arm, not great reads; Fangraphs gives him consistently negative UZR numbers. On the plus side, it looks like his ATL experience scared him into getting in shape. Maybe he decided to heed Dean Wormer’s advice (even though only the first part applied).
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by jbg2772 on Nov 8, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He's still a drunk?
#satire
Rob
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by RobBobS on Nov 8, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

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