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Davey Johnson And Mike Rizzo: Steering The Washington Nationals' Pirate Ship.

WASHINGTON, DC - JULY 01:  Manager Davey Johnson #5 and general manager Mike Rizzo of the Washington Nationals talk before the game against the Pittsburgh Pirates at Nationals Park on July 1, 2011 in Washington, DC.  (Photo by Greg Fiume/Getty Images)

You can look at the inclusion of four players from this year's Draft on Baseball America's most-recent Top 10 Washington Nationals' prospect list one of two ways, as a sign that it was an especially strong class or proof that the system the Nats' inherited from the Montreal Expos is still not quite rebuilt. There are other ways to look at it as well, I suppose, maybe the Baseball America writer overvalues the new names or undervalues some in the system already, but however you look at it the perception of the franchise as a whole has changed in part as a result of the last few draft classes, two of which were top-heavy of course with Stephen Strasburg and Bryce Harper back-to-back no. 1 overall picks and potential once-in-a-generation talents. Strasburg, Harper and the other members of what were three relatively deep classes jumped to the top of Baseball America's lists immediately upon joining the organization as Washington quickly graduated the best prospects in the system to the major league level over the last few seasons.

Star-divide

Ian Desmond, Ross Detwiler, Jordan Zimmermann, Stephen Strasburg, Drew Storen, Danny Espinosa, Wilson RamosChris Marrero, Stephen Lombardozzi, Brad Peacock, Tom Milone and Cole Kimball. In March of 2010, when talking about the future Nationals' rotation in an MLB Network Radio interview, then-Nats' President Stan Kasten said the team was confident about the near-future and knew, "... right around the corner is the next wave to add to our rotation with [Stephen] Strasburg coming and Jordan Zimmermann getting back and Ross Detwiler getting healthy and Chien-Ming Wang getting healthy, we think it's going to be an important transitional year for us." Detwiler's injury issues and slowed development, Wang's longer-than-anticipated road back and Strasburg's unfortunate elbow injury set the plan back a little, but three and maybe four of that "next wave" of pitchers are expected to be part of the Nats' 2012 rotation. 

In an interview with 106.7 The FAN's Chad Dukes and Danny Rouhier yesterday, D.C. GM Mike Rizzo said the organization's growth can be attributed to, "... not only ownership allowing us to be very aggressive in the Draft, but also allowing us to go out and get front office people who really know their business and are the best of the best. When you talk about the impactful drafts that we've had since I've taken over, I don't think it's any coincidence that when I took over I made Roy Clark and Kris Kline the architects of our amateur drafts. Then Doug Harris and Bob Boone, guys that run our minor league system. Because scouting and player development have to go hand-in-hand, they have to be on the same page with no in-fighting and everybody has to be pulling on the same rope." 

"It's cliche-ish," Rizzo said of scouting and player development, "But it really is the engine that drives successful organizations for the long term and we identified the best players in the last three drafts, we drafted them, we were aggressive in signing them, we spent a lot of money in the amateur draft, and we see, I think, the first wave of those players hitting the Nationals this coming year, but we feel that we have two or three more waves that will hit the Washington Nationals in the very near future." 

"We've got a timeline and a plan and a vision for this organization to be in and it all starts with scouting and player development," Rizzo said, "And I think it started two years ago when we brought in the best and brightest minds in those departments to lead the Nationals in scouting and player development." Davey Johnson, when he was brought back as the manager for 2012, told reporters that it was an easy decision. "The last few Spring Trainings have been really fun for me, being, not only with the big league guys, but the minor league guys and also spending a lot of time with the front office people and it's just a great organization, one of the better ones I've ever been in, if not the best."

The manager and GM are apparently working as closely and as well together as the scouting and player development departments, with Rizzo telling reporters upon announcing Johnson's return to the bench, "It's no coincidence that the day I became the interim general manager Davey became special assistant to the general manager on a full-time basis. He was a resource for me through all the early times and the early decisions we made and he was a comfortable guy to have in Spring Training to bounce things off of and he was the easy choice for me when we had to make a change at the major league level."

The two have also challenged each other with Rizzo explaining to Washington Post writer Thomas Boswell in an article this past September entitled, "With Davey Johnson back, Nationals will be fun and fascinating", that the manager changed the way he thinks of constructing and using a bullpen: 

"'Davey is an innovator. He taught me a whole different way to think about relief pitching — the A and B bullpen,' said Rizzo. "He said, ‘How can you have long winning streaks if you have to go to the same relievers every night? You have to have two bullpens — A and B — and trust them both.’ And he also wants a right-handed and left-handed long man — but not ‘mop-up men.’ He uses them in big spots.'"

The GM and manager share a similar attitude as well. It isn't only Jayson Werth influencing the culture, but also Rizzo and Johnson, as the GM told the WaPost writer, connecting a story of how he was fined and suspended for arguing with umpires in New York this past season to one from his fiery manager's past. In a recent chat, the Washington post's Mr. Boswell described the sort of team Johnson would eventually like to field: 

"I keep thinking how much Davey wants Bryce Harper to pan out fast because he LOVES big-ego and big-talent players. Eventually, Davey always wants to run a Pirate Ship...

"Nats fans don't know WHO they have in Davey yet. Remember I told you: All his good teams end up flying the skull and crossbones and having fueds with their main rivals. When he took over the flatline [Orioles] after '95, he brought in an all-outlaw coaching staff __everybody who knew how to cheat, pull a prank, play a little dirty (like Davey did, according to Elrod). He wants a band-of-brothers __like the Smurfs prank on the rookies last year on the trip to NYC. Davey doesn't do it. He stands back and lets the team dream up its own crazy stuff. But, within certain limits __and I've never been able to figure out what they are!__ he lets 'em do what the hell they want to do as long as they take the same swagger on the field. He wants 100 mph fastballs and guys like Harper who might have an edge. But he also had a Dudley Doright everywhere, [Gary] Carter in NYC, [Cal] Ripken in Baltimore and [Ryan Zimmerman] here. He's fine with them, too." 

You may have sensed the attitude recently when Johnson declared that the pennant was the Nats' goal this season or when Rizzo told reporters that the Nationals were the talk of baseball following the signing deadline for this year's draft picks this past August. Or maybe when the manager opened a recent interview with 106.7 the FAN's Mike Wise and Holden Kushner by telling the hosts the Nats were taking aim at the Phillies as he told his old friend and current Philadelphia third base coach Sam Perlozzo recently, "I just want to hand him notice too," Johnson said, "The last couple series [with Philadelphia] is going to be the way it's going to be all year with us and [them]."

National League, you've been warned.

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Anyone think that Stammen fits perfectly with Daveys "long man" description

Cant think of any lefties that fit the bill, I really dont trust Gorzy in big situations. Assuming a 7 man pen, here is what I would go with

Cl Storen
SU Clippard
MR Burnett
MR Rodriguez
MR Mattheus
LR Stammen
LR Gorzealnny

Another point to go with, is if this was the pen, that would mean we would have to DFA Balester, which I wouldnt have a problem with, but I know some here dont want to do that yet. The plus is that it would open up room for another rule 5 guy, which assuming the DFA of Slaten, would give us room for about 4 players. I would pick Norris, Moore, Meyers, and Komatsu. Severino would be the first man up from Syracuse. If we sign a FA I would put Det in the LR spot, and trade or non tender Gorzy

MOAR SEVERINO!

by jeff550 on Nov 15, 2011 5:44 PM EST reply actions  

I'm with you on Stammen

With the “A-B” bullpen that Boswell brought up a week or so ago, a case could be made for the “A” group being Severino, Clippard, & Storen, and the “B” group being Mattheus, Burnett, & H-Rod. The long relief slot(s) will likely come from Stammen / Balester [both RH], or Gorzelanny / Detwiler [both LH]. Balester & Detwiler are both out of options, Gorzelanny is an Arb case ($2.1M in 2011), and Stammen has an option left, I believe.

In the vacuum of the hot-stove season, I’d guess the team trades / releases Balester, non-tenders / trades Gorzelanny, so the LR job could go to Detwiler (if he doesn’t make the rotation), with Stammen as the fall-back option for a seven-man bullpen. Twelve-man pitching staff, thirteen-man field / bench.

"Things are going great, and they're only gettin' better..." Timbuk3

by BinM on Nov 15, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

On the 40-man promotions...

Norris YES, Moore probably, Komatsu maybe; I think Rizzo might take another chance on exposing Meyers, given his injury history. Remember, the claiming team has to keep him on the roster for the season, or offer him back for $25K; That rule tends to protect players at A-levels or lower from being claimed, unless they’ve shown a skill that immediately projects to MLB status (98+ fastball, .950+ career OPS).

"Things are going great, and they're only gettin' better..." Timbuk3

by BinM on Nov 15, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

No problems

It’s all opinions in the ether at this point. But I agree with you that Slaten is a clear non-tender (Arb eligible LHRP), Gorzelanny is a probable non-tender (another Arb eligible LH pitcher, and Balester (out-of-options RHRP) needs to be moved.

"Things are going great, and they're only gettin' better..." Timbuk3

by BinM on Nov 15, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Meyers threw 95 innings in AAA last year overcoming his biggest concern-durabilty

Granted this was only for one year, and he may have other future problems. But he has been a dominant pitcher at every step for the last 3 years.

Komatsu on the other hand was ok in AA as a 23 year old (.277/.367/.382). Their are better OF prospects to spend a 40 spot on.

by chubias on Nov 16, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't often agree with Boswell,

but his description of Davey Johnson’s teams dovetails exactly with what I recall from the Mets and Orioles (and, from a distance, the Reds). It makes me wonder that maybe Harper will make the team out of spring training, unless Rizzo signs/trades for a CF.

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"

by jbg2772 on Nov 15, 2011 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

I suggest a modest celebration now, RobBob...

And then another one after Fielder signs:

@SI_JonHeyman: “Nats gm rizzo said he could consider signing a free agent 1b but hed have to make a companion move to open position up.”

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Nov 15, 2011 7:09 PM EST reply actions  

The internet needs a clearinghouse for overall accuracy% on rumours floated by sportswriters...

If there was one currently available, I wonder where Heyman would rank? Bottom quarter maybe, since he’s a nation-wide reporter & floats more junk than he can possibly hope to be true?

Back to the Heyman quote – At face value, that could mean Pujols as easily as it could Fielder; Or Ishikawa, D. Johnson, N. Johnson, D. Lee, Overbay, C. Pena, etc, for that matter. The question would still be why sign a FA to a position where you already have ML depth (1B with LaRoche / Morse / Marrero)? That’s a Bowden move (overstock, then dump the excess), not what I’d expect frm Rizzo.

"Things are going great, and they're only gettin' better..." Timbuk3

by BinM on Nov 15, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, all such reports are noted with the obvious caveats...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Nov 15, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Werth can play center, and LaRoche and Marrero are not major league starters.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Nov 15, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

If Matt Holiday........

or ryan Braun were free agents we would be all over them and Morse would move to 1st. However it’s Fielder and Pujols so Morse stays in LF………….LaFraud and Marrero should even be in this discussion. Niether is a top 25 .300 hitter…….

by artistfork on Nov 16, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

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