Wire Taps: The Washington Nationals, Yu Darvish And The Long Wait...
The silence coming out of 1500 South Capitol Street, SE is all that's preserving the possibility that the Washington Nationals outbid the rest of the teams that did bid for the rights to negotiate a deal with 25-year-old Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters' right-hander Yu Darvish. The Nationals aren't mentioned anywhere in the conversation about the posting process that could eventually result in the pitcher widely considered the best starter outside the Major Leagues plying his trade in an MLB city in 2012.
The one report that had all of Toronto talking on Thursday night came from New York Post writer George A. King III, who wrote in an article entitled, "Blue Jays believed to outbid Yankees, others for Darvish", that he'd spoken to, "sources with knowledge of the situation," who told him that what was rumored to be a posting fee, "... above $40 million and possibly close to $50 million," had people considering, "... the Blue Jays [as] the favorites to land the negotiating rights to Yu Darvish."
Apparently the Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters do intend on waiting until it gets close to the 5:00 pm EST Tuesday (12/20) deadline to announce the name of the team that won the bidding for Darvish. CBSSports.com's Danny Knobler wrote Thursday night in an article entitled, "Darvish: Fighters expected to accept Tuesday", that signs were pointing toward Toronto winning the bidding, with the Rangers making a strong push and the Yankees involved, but not seriously considered contenders. Mr. Knobler (@DKnobler) wrote on Twitter Thursday night about the reason for the Fighters waiting to make the announcement, explaining that, "People familiar with Japanese baseball say it looks better for team to wait, showing they're not anxious to get rid of star player."
Darvish's agent Don Nomura (@DonNomura) said the announcement would likely be made this coming Tuesday when the deadline to submit bids passed this past Wednesday, writing on Twitter that, "Bidding time came and gone. MLB send(s) high bid to [Japan], 4 [business] days to respond to bid then winner announced. Long wait."
Dallas Morning News' Rangers baseball writer Gerry Fraley wrote Thursday in an article entitled, "Signs point toward Toronto as winner of rights to Darvish", that, "The growing consensus among officials with several major-league clubs is Toronto will surpass the Texas Rangers and win the negotiating rights to Japanese righthander Yu Darvish." The insight was, however, offered with the qualification that, "none of these officials has direct knowledge of the offers." As CBSSports.com's Mr. Knobler mentioned, not even Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters' officials will know the identify of the team before Tuesday's deadline.
Did the Nationals bid? If they did, they're not saying. FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) wrote on Twitter Thursday night that Washington was still interested in Oakland A's lefty Gio Gonzalez, and the Nats, "... view #WhiteSox's Danks as Plan B. After missing out on Buehrle, LH starter remains Nats' priority." Gonzalez's name came up in connection to the Nats during the Winter Meetings, but as D.C. GM Mike Rizzo told reporters before the Nationals' brass left Texas, "We've got several different options that we're exploring, some free agent, some via the trade routes and some international options, so we're still open for business and we're going to keep an open mind and see what fits for us."
Mark Buehrle was the Nats' Plan A this winter, whether or not Darvish was Plan B we might never know. Davey Johnson's on record saying he's comfortable going into the season with what the Nationals have in terms of pitching, but if you believe the rumors out there, they're still in the market. D.C. GM Mike Rizzo's front office has maintained their trademark silence thus far, offering no particulars while openly stating their desire to add an arm to the rotation. The cost to do so is going to be high whether it's prospects in a trade, a free agent deal or the kind of posting fee it appears will be necessary to outbid the rest of Yu Darvish's suitors.
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I know it's probably not true, but I heard Lincecum could be on the trade block
Apparently, since Lincecum is looking for Free Agent money to sign a long term deal with the Giants, they’re open to hearing offers on him. If that is the case I would trade the Nats entire minor league system (except Harper) if they could ink him long-term.
Ross Detwiler will have a breakout year...Believe It!...and I'm serious this time!
Maybe
But Kershaw is only a year or so younger and has less of a track record, also—and more importantly—Kershaw is in no way shape or form available.
Ross Detwiler will have a breakout year...Believe It!...and I'm serious this time!
if you’re offering the entire minor league system, a lot of doors open that would otherwise be closed
#don'ttradeHarper! heh.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 16, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I'd be okay with that
Mainly because there’s only been like 3 or 4 guys ever, who have started their career off the way Lincecum has.
Ross Detwiler will have a breakout year...Believe It!...and I'm serious this time!
True
But some guys are still untouchable and given a choice I’d still take Lincecum over Kershaw. Kershaw was better last year, but Lincecum was better the 3 years prior and has also pitched lights out in the postseason.
Ross Detwiler will have a breakout year...Believe It!...and I'm serious this time!
They've been saying his arm would fall off since he was in college
And yet it hasn’t. He’s never had any sort of arm trouble whatsoever, but he has a different motion so people get scared. His motion isn’t violent and his arm winds up in the correct spot so that whole arm thing is pure speculation rooted in nothing.
Watch this video and you’ll realize that in ten years everyone may have a motion just like Tim Lincecum’s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2PBLcp9tWM
Ross Detwiler will have a breakout year...Believe It!...and I'm serious this time!
I would endorse a deal to acquire The Freak.
But I don’t think that would ever happen.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
Wow, Nats sign Jeff Fulchino
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/nationals-sign-jeff-fulchino.html
Ross Detwiler will have a breakout year...Believe It!...and I'm serious this time!
Who needs Darvish?
Also, why is Jeff Fulchino being given a major league contract? Did I miss something?
Ross Detwiler will have a breakout year...Believe It!...and I'm serious this time!
You did miss something - it's a minor league contract
If MLB trade rumors is right and it’s a “split” contract, that means that he is signed to a minor league contract, but one that also spells out a different salary/benefits structure in the event that he is elevated to the major league roster.
minor league contract with an invitation to spring training
A split contract is typically one that’s signed by players who have prior major league experience and are signed to a minor league contract. Generally they are given an invitation to the major league clubs Spring Training.
A split contract includes separate salary rates while they’re in the minor leagues and while they are on the Major League club.
If the player is assigned to the minor leagues at any point in the season he’ll earn a daily rate of at least 60% of the total of his minor and major league salary from the previous season.
Kilgore says Nats did not bid on Darvish
personally, even if true, I’d prefer not to know that, even if it turns out to be for the best..
I'm okay with this
Hopefully they save the money and spend it on Cain next year.
Ross Detwiler will have a breakout year...Believe It!...and I'm serious this time!
Hmm
I always found arguments like this fallacious, since there’s no way to tell if guys like Cain will even hit free agency, or be willing to accept what you offer when they do (see Buerhle, Mark).
by Armless Penguin on Dec 16, 2011 2:54 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
(ToT)
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 16, 2011 1:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
is this another one of those funky japoticons?
“mock surprise”?
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
What about Aoki???
Is there any word on whether the Nats put in a bid on his posting fee?
Just looking into that for next post. Bidding deadline is 5:00 pm EST this afternoon...
No word on any bidders that I’ve seen, may know more tonight (soon?)
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 16, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
According to...
These folks. The deadline is today at 5:00.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 16, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
jonmorosi:
#Athletics would love to get a future third baseman for Gio Gonzalez. #Rangers prospect Mike Olt (1.197 OPS in AFL) is one possibility.
or Rendon?
can't trade Rendon
until a year after he signs. Could be player to be named later but that’s an awful long time to wait.
It would also be an awful thing to do
Trading away any promising bat for a pitcher is foolish, IMO.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
#signFielder
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
Good sense to not pay $100 million
to an unproven pitcher. Now go out and get Gio or Danks to solidify rotation before their teams wake up.
No thanks
If they want Montero AND Banuelos(sp?) for Gio or Danks, we would be stupid to give them our equivalents
MOAR SEVERINO!
#Pig.Pen
I am a lifelong Dodger fan who has taken a shine to the Nationals. (With owners like the McCourts, and the general unavailability of coverage of the west coast in DC, it’s increasingly difficult to stay truly loyal to my first baseball love). That being said, I want to correct a few things about your Lincecum perceptions.
Although I loathe the Giants, I have to respect what they’ve accomplished. However, in terms of which pitcher would be a better hypothetical investment for the Nationals, Kershaw comes out ahead of Lincecum. First, Lincecum is 4 years older than Kershaw. That is no small number considering the number of collegiate and professional innings the Freak has logged (he pitched at U. Washington, in case you were wondering). Kershaw is a much younger arm, who by most scouting reports has only begun to tap into his potential. Lincecum is tremendous talent with a stellar career, but I would be extremely surprised if he were to improve upon his career line.
Aside from arguing the age/ceiling factor, personality is a major factor. I’m not even going to go into Tim’s forays with marijuana and the police, but as recently as this calendar year, he was sued by his landlord for “destroying” a rental property. Meanwhile, Kershaw has had no hiccups in the media-hungry market we know as LA. Furthermore, the guy seems to be a class act, who spent his honeymoon on a mission in Africa, building schools for underdeveloped communities (he has since started a charity to continue his work).
Bottom line, I say this from the most objective standpoint I can possibly take, as a Dodger fan who wants competitive baseball in DC: compared to Kershaw, Lincecum is not the better long term investment. Feel free to rebuke
Sounds good to me...Rizzo likes the high-character guys better than the high "character" guys.
by RoscoeNats on Dec 16, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Kershaw would be a better addition, too
but the “green thing” is irrelevant to me; it doesn’t bother me at all.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
Nats sign Jason Michaels to a minor league deal?
by jimmylauderdale on Dec 16, 2011 4:41 PM EST reply actions

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