Will Washington Nationals Revisit Roy Oswalt Talks Now That He'll Take A One-Year Deal?
34-year-old, 11-year veteran Roy Oswalt left the Philadelphia Phillies for a short time early in the 2011 campaign after his home county in Mississippi had tornadoes cause extensive damage and he was limited to 23 starts and 139.0 IP when issues resulting from a bulging disc in his back forced him to the DL on two separate occasions. The one-time Astros' draft pick (23rd Round in '96) acquired by the Phillies in a three-for-one deal that sent outfielder Anthony Gose, infielder Jonathan Villar and left-hander J.A. Happ to Houston in 2010 had his option for 2012 declined by Philadelphia and he wasn't offered arbitration which made him more attractive as a free agent this winter, but his insistence on a multi-year deal limited the market for the right-hander...
According to ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick, the 6'0'', 190 lb pitcher with a career-3.21 ERA, 3.35 FIP, 7.35 K/9 and 2.09 BB/9 who finished the 2011 season (9-10) with a 3.69 ERA, 3.44 FIP, 33 BB (2.14 BB/9) and 93 K's (6.02 K/9) in the 23 starts he did make, has lowered his demands and is now willing to accept a one-year deal. "Oswalt wants to show his back is healthy, have a big year and go back on the market and try to get a multiyear contract next winter," Mr. Crasnick wrote on Twitter this afternoon (@JCrasnick), and with the right-hander willing to accept a one-year deal, the ESPN.com writer added, "Now at least 6 clubs are talking to him about 1-year contract."
Oswalt fits the description of the type of pitcher D.C. GM Mike Rizzo started the winter looking for, "... a good leader type of guy that's thrown a lot of innings, that has shown that he can win in the big leagues and [can] really lead our staff, not just by having the best stuff on the staff but by showing how to be a professional and how to be a winner and how to pitch 200 innings in a season many, many times in your career," as Rizzo himself described it. The Nats' general manager described Oswalt in an MLB Network Radio interview as a, "... a fiery competitive guy who comes right at you," and could be a good role model for Washington's pitchers, but according to reports by MLB.com's Bill Ladson the main obstacle was the right-hander's insistence on a multi-year deal.
"Washington only wants to give Oswalt a one-year deal loaded with incentives because he had problems with his back last year and made only 23 starts," the Nats MLB beat writer reported last week. ESPN.com's Mr. Crasnick listed Washington on Twitter today as a team that will likely have interest now that Oswalt's saying he's willing to accept a one-year offer. Of course, all of the other teams out there (Minnesota, New York (AL), Boston, Florida) that have expressed interest are going to be more likely to take a shot now that he's willing to take one year.
Jon Heyman's prediction in the CBSSports.com writer's pre-Winter Meetings prediction post was that Oswalt would end up taking a one-year/$11M dollar deal after, "A back injury and retirement talk," last season. He was rumored to be the Nats' backup plan to top target Mark Buehlre. Will Washington revisit talks with the right-hander's agent now that his demands have changed? The Nationals were linked to A's lefty Gio Gonzalez yesterday. Which pitcher would be a better fit in the nation's capital's Nats' rotation?
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Get Gio
Get Gio and sign Prince cmon Rizzo!!!
by Sportzxpert on Dec 20, 2011 4:50 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I support a one year Oswalt deal.
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
Oswalt for 1 year?
Gladly… If you’re prepared to give him about 3/45 for ‘13-15 were he to prove his health in ’12. Otherwise, you’re just looking to compete in 2012 at the expense of seeing if Milone Peacock et al have what it takes to be MLB pitchers. Which I could see an argument for (winning culture, ticket sales, etc). How much of one? Not sure about that.
I don't think that getting Oswalt really blocks the rookies
Someone is going to have to pitch the last two months for Strasburg, and to think that Wang, Lannan, Detwiler, and for that matter Oswalt, are each going to put in 33 effective starts is really optimistic.
by d_c_guy on Dec 20, 2011 5:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
you can always count on an injury
shoulder stiffness, what have you.
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
Gio would be a nice fit, but I'll speculate the weak-hitting A's want Morse, to which I'd say no dice
…because Mike Morse is our first-baseman of the future – once we get him back to 1B, where he belongs – and to prove the point, I predict that in 2012 he will hit more home-runs than Fielder does. Just you wait. (Mikey, you readin’ dis?)
Whomever the A’s want for Gio, it’s like most things – all depends on the price.
As for a one-year Oswalt contract, fer crissake what’s not to like?
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Doubtful they want Morse
Beane wants players that are pre-arbitration and Morse is in year two of Arb. Given that by the time the A’s are ready to contend in two to three years time, and he keeps up his production, he will cost WAY TOO MUCH for Beane.
Name a number between three and five.
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Threeve.
If not Morse, who we got that they need and want? Put yourself in their place
…and in this game, three years out is an eternity.
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Our younguns
If they want the killer B’s and/or Montero from New York, then Cole, Norris, + is probably where they’re starting with us.
Whats the frequency, Kenneth?
Our bodily fluids?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: “Do I look all rancid and clotted? You look at me, Jack. Eh? Look, eh? And I drink a lot of water, you know. I’m what you might call a water man, Jack – that’s what I am. And I can swear to you, my boy, swear to you, that there’s nothing wrong with my bodily fluids. Not a thing, Jackie.”
General Jack D. Ripper: “When the Japs tortured you, did you talk?”
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: “No. I don’t think they wanted me to talk, really. I don’t think they wanted me to say anything. It was just their way of having a bit of fun, the swine. Strange thing is, they make such bloody good cameras.”
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Perhaps Rizzo...
is too busy talking to Greg Dobbs’ agent?
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
Admittedly, it's just personal. But I really want nothing to do with Dobbs...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 20, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
HA!
I think its because he was a Marlin, but secretly hope its because he dated your sister or something “personal.”
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
Please! It's not just that he was a Marlin
He was a Phillie before that. GAG!
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
Personal? Hell, he's a stiff
…ax me, he’ll look just fine with that big-ass “M” on his cap next year.
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
As long as we're talking about possible packages for Gio
Would Det possibly be involved in that deal?
I don't have a very high opinion of southern California, in sports or in general
I don't see why not?
Though I am not as big on Detwiler as others. I could use a little more mound presence out of the guy. But thats neither here nor there, and certainly has no real insight into how good he could be.
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
Rosenthal speculated Det would be...
And his name is rumored to have come up in talks w/ Tampa and Detroit, so it seems likely. All speculation of course…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 20, 2011 5:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not Detroit, Houston...
[blames iPhone]
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 20, 2011 5:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bill Conlin now
crypes
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
Latest:
@Ken_Rosenthal: Source: Interest in Oswalt intensified after report by @jcrasnick that Roy O is willing to take one-yr deal in effort to build value. #MLB
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 20, 2011 6:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Oswalt
Do it!!! It makes sense. We don’t trade any value and it only costs money. There will be plenty of opportunity to get an idea of what Det, Peacock, Millone can do. If we are in contention he brings experience, if we are not and he is doing well we flip him for prospects. Having Zim, Lannan, Oswalt, SS, Wang in that order to mix it up and to save SS if we are close is pretty strong. In a few years it is SS, ZIM, Cole, Purke and Peacock.
Have DeRosa, Cameron, Shark, LaRoche as your bench. Move MM to 1B and let Harper start to see how it goes.
Sign Beltran or Cespedes as the missing outfielder
Desi, Werth, Zim, MM, Beltran/Cespedes, Harper, Espi, Ramos is pretty strong.
I'm a big fan of Little Roy...
I sure hope Rizzo goes hard for him on a 1-year deal with lots of incentives. It would be so worth it for the winning ways and competitive mind set Oswalt would bring. He’d be a great mentor for the young pitching corps also…might even help Bambi sprout his own antlers! (Doubtful, but possible… ;-)
Santa Rizzo, puh-lese, puh-lese, PLEASE do this one little thing for the Nats…and make Oswalt a Nat in 2012!
"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011
by MissB on Dec 20, 2011 6:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
well, if it's only for one year....
not sure why I’m indifferent to Oswalt……and it’s Rosenthal blabbing again.
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." Lance Berkman......LBIMH...
by cat daddy3000 on Dec 20, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
the board has convinced me that we should go for this
and after all I did say there’s an argument to be made. people made it.
Oswalt was actually pitching for Houston in the first Nats game I saw at RFK
I'd rather Gio than Oswalt
But I like lefty power pitchers. Plus I just don’t like the idea of a four righty rotation.
Name a number between three and five.
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Threeve.
Me too - in a vacuum
He’s also several years younger and cheaper. It’s the cost in prospects that gives one pause.
Sure
But thats what you do with a surplus of prospects. As I said earlier. Its better now then when we have several players we’d hate give up available (Purke, Rendon, etc.)
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
And for how much it pains me...
If and when Rendon is available. And if he is as good as expected, we ARE going to say goodbye to one of three following players.
Desmond
Espinosa
Zimmerman
If I had to guess it would be in that order. Anyone care to make odds on that? Let’s say…
Desmond 6-1
Espinosa 10-1
Zimmerman ….uh? I can’t physically type a number here out of fear.
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
flagged...
lollygaggers?
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." Lance Berkman......LBIMH...
by cat daddy3000 on Dec 20, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
reality check isn't it?
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
do.not.like.reality...
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." Lance Berkman......LBIMH...
by cat daddy3000 on Dec 20, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
They need to sign Zimm ASAP
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
agreed...now!
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." Lance Berkman......LBIMH...
by cat daddy3000 on Dec 20, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Good move by Oswalt and his agent.
I thought if Owsalt was confident that he was fine, he would sign a one year deal, then hit free agency, and get more money. Is that true or just great marketing?
Oswalt missed the 200 innings mark 4 times with 2 them in the last 3 years. He is a great veteran pitcher. The fact that the Philles didn’t want to pay him $12 for the 2012 season should be a red flag. Their doctor should know more than us. However, no one knows how many more innings he will pitch. He is worth a shot on a one year contract and full of performance incentives.
sign Oswalt - dont trade for Gio
Save the prospects and develop them.
by apostle61 on Dec 20, 2011 8:48 PM EST via Android app reply actions
save the prospects, but don't sign the old guy unless it's incentive driven...
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." Lance Berkman......LBIMH...
by cat daddy3000 on Dec 20, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Favorite Oswalt quote:
“I wasn’t talking to you!”
- right after he was tossed against the Nats…
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
I remember that...........I enjoyed that. ........would like a replay when he's on another team...
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." Lance Berkman......LBIMH...
by cat daddy3000 on Dec 20, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
first thing that always comes to my mind when hes mentioned
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man
No red flags on Oswalt
Phils have great pitching and Oswalt was blocking prospects. And they have too much payroll. With Lee, Halladay, Hamels and what’s his name the rookie last year they just dont need Oswalt.
by apostle61 on Dec 20, 2011 8:53 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Red Flag: Roy Oswalt. The degenerative disc in Oswalt's lower back is a serious concern. He lost more than 60 days of the 2011 season to back problems and, at 34, isn't getting any younger or healthier. 23 starts last year, despite the back problems...
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." Lance Berkman......LBIMH...
by cat daddy3000 on Dec 20, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
What? No caps lock to yell louder?!
Heh.
I do believe Baby Raccoon #3 would approve of Oswalt for 1 year (skinny guy who won’t eat too much of the clubhouse spreads= no competition like that Coffey guy and the Crafty Cuban Pitcher…and don’t ger him started on Da Meat Hook!).
BRs #1 & 2 just like to cheer for the team and wear shirseys. They leave the hard decisions to BR #3 and Rizzo.
"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011
by MissB on Dec 20, 2011 9:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
okay, so Oswalt has one, maybe a lot more, baby raccoons on his side....
and they all may have ulterior motives….except for BRs #1 & 2 who just like to cheer for the team and wear shirseys…
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." Lance Berkman......LBIMH...
by cat daddy3000 on Dec 20, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Vance Worley
and, last I saw, ML starting rotations are composed of at least 5 pitchers these days. (Of course, I haven’t paid any attention to Philadelphia minor league pitching, so don’t know if there’s someone knocking on the door…)
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
And don't forget the gi-normous (and stupid)
Papelbon contract.
"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011
by MissB on Dec 20, 2011 9:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The same Phils
that trade for Cliff Lee, then trade away Cliff Lee. Then they trade for Oswalt and resigned Lee. OK they got budget and a promising rookie. However, if they though he was worth way more the $12 mill they would have exercised his option and then traded him. He is a risk if he wasn’t he would not be available. . Don’t grossly over pay. Use performance incentives to reduce the cost if he don’t work out and reaward him if he does.
Small quibble
his option was for $16 million.
Crissake, what's two million bucks between friends?
Crazy world.
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Let me rephrase that...
No red flag on signing him for one year. With Worley the Phils have the best 1 – 4 pitchers in baseball. Oswalt was unnecessary for them, especially for multiple years.
by apostle61 on Dec 20, 2011 9:50 PM EST via Android app reply actions
any news on the Gio front or Roy
by Sportzxpert on Dec 20, 2011 9:53 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I like this better than Gonzalez
Beane is going to take his trade partner to the cleaners on Gonzalez. Oswalt and Gio have similar FIP and xFIP numbers, with Oswalt having the health issues as a negative on his side. However, he’ll not cost a lot in either talent or money. And if it comes to July 31st and the Nationals are out of it, he’s trade bait.
In the end the Nats are out a few bucks, not 20-30 wins in years 2013-2016 when they might be in serious contention. Show me a team that’s traded prospects for a single pitcher in recent years that didn’t end up regretting it. Gio is NOT an ace, either.
I think it has been a while since Beane took anyone to the cleaners.
by jimmylauderdale on Dec 21, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'm saying Beane won't deal him
Unless he can fleece his trade partner. Gonlazez has good value over and above his salary so he’s not the kind of pitcher that cheap teams normally trade. But if someone offers him more talent than he’s worth…sure thing. Stay away, Nats!

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