Washington Nationals' GM Mike Rizzo Talks Gio Gonzalez, Pitching Depth, CF Search.
When the Washington Nationals announced that they'd signed right-handed sinker-baller Chien-Ming Wang to a 1-year/$4M dollar+ deal in early November, Nats' GM Mike Rizzo told reporters on a conference call that the team was happy with the pitchers they had but always looking to upgrade the rotation. Rizzo said then he believed that the depth in the rotation could allow Washington to trade for what they wanted this winter. "I think that we have enough pitching depth that we could trade off our pitching depth," Rizzo told reporters, but having overseen the rebuilding of the organization Washington inherited from Montreal, the general manager knew the value of what the Nationals had built.
"It's taken us a long time to assemble a deep farm system that we can be proud of, and that is contributing on the major league level consistently" he said, "and we certainly don't want to rid ourselves of that. It's important to keep the depth. We're going to make trades when trades are prudent." A series of discussions with Oakland over the last month led to Thursday's six-player deal which brought the A's Gio Gonzalez to Washington, giving the Nationals a strong top of the rotation the GM believes can compete with the best in the NL East.
In responding to a question about having enough depth to cover the starts Strasburg will miss when he reaches his innings limit in his first full-year back from Tommy John, Rizzo told reporters in the November interview, "We feel that we have at least six or seven quality guys that we can call upon to start in the major leagues. We feel that we're about eight or nine deep as far as starting pitching depth in our organization, our system, so I think the Strasburg thing doesn't come into play that much for us now."
23-year-old right-hander Brad Peacock and the 24-year-old Tom Milone were presumably two of the eight or nine pitchers expected to play some role in the 2012 Nats' rotation. Friday night in a conference call with reporters, Rizzo was asked if he was comfortable with one less starter in the mix among the organization's major-league ready pitchers after the deal with Oakland which included both Peacock, Milone, 19-year-old right-hander A.J. Cole and 22-year-old backstop Derek Norris?
"We feel, even with this trade, we have great depth in the starting rotation," Rizzo said, "We've got [Stephen] Strasburg, Gio Gonzalez, Jordan Zimmermann, Chien-Ming Wang, Ross Detwiler, John Lannan. We also have guys who can start and compete for a starting job, there's Tom Gorzelanny, Craig Stammen. This is because we know during the course of the season we're going to need more than five starting pitchers. Everybody does and we feel that we're still very deep in starting pitching and we like the talent level of our starting pitching and it's going to be a great competition to see who comes out of [Spring Training] as our final five."
After Strasburg, Gonzalez and Zimmermann, Wang, Detwiler and Lannan are going to have to decide this Spring which two of the three will start the season in the rotation. Rizzo acknowledged that things like Detwiler's lack of options could play a role in the decision, but the GM said all three would be in Washington in some role.
"They are three quality pitchers," Rizzo said, "so I don't see them not being on the big league club. But there's going to be competition so we'll see how that all pans out during Spring Training. But they're three quality pitchers, and if they're not three of our best twelve when we leave camp, we're doing pretty good because they're three quality major league pitchers."
"I like our depth," even after the trade, the GM said, "I thought we were protected there with major league caliber pitching immediately there at the major league level. Don't forget we've got another wave of prospects coming, that I think will at least equal and possibly surpass the package of guys that we've given up in this trade. With the [Matt] Purkes and the [Sammy] Solises* and the [Alex] Meyers of the world. Then we also have a wave behind them of the [Robbie] Rays and the [Paul] Demnys and those type of guys behind them. So, we feel that we're set up very, very well for the long haul."
As for the present, or the future 2012 rotation, Rizzo said the Nats' starting pitching, "... is in the realm of something that we've never had here before."
"Don't forget," the general manager continued, "... we've got a [Stephen] Strasburg at 23, Gio Gonzalez at 26 and [Jordan] Zimmermann at 25. So those guys are young, they're not going anywhere and Ross Detwiler is also 25-years-old, so our core rotation is very, very young and we've got great depth behind them on the major league level, major-league-ready. We've got a wave of pitchers coming behind them and even a further wave beyond that and I put the onus on Roy Clark and Kris Kline and Doug Harris our farm director to keep identifying, signing and developing good, young, power starting pitching."
The Nationals aren't done trying to improve the ballclub this winter, however. As they've stated from the start, a pitcher and an outfield bat are the goals and the Nats' front office is still looking according to the GM. "We're always looking to improve our ballclub," Rizzo said, "We feel that if the right fit for us for a center fielder, a long-term center field piece came to us, we would certainly be aggressive and address it and go after it either via the free agent market or the trade market."
"We still haven't gotten off that," Rizzo assured reporters, "We still feel that that's a need for us. We do feel that we have in-house candidates right now that can fill that position very effectively, being that Jayson Werth could move to center field and then we would open up a bigger pool of candidates for a corner outfield position. We feel that really that position and that spot hasn't changed this offseason so far. Like I said, we're still looking for a long-term, permanent fit for us and just haven't found that yet and we're still attacking all avenues to try [to] get one."
In spite of persistent rumblings about the Nationals' interest in a certain soon-to-be former Brewers' first baseman, when Rizzo was asked if it was correct to assume that Adam LaRoche was going to be the Nats' first baseman in 2012, Rizzo said simply, "That is correct."
With LaRoche, a full year of Ryan Zimmerman, an improved Jayson Werth, can the Nationals, as they're currently constructed, compete for the organization's first postseason appearance? Are they improved from last year's 80-81 third place finishers? "I think with the normal maturation of our good core young players, I think they're only going to get better," the GM explained, "I think that hopefully we have a healthier season out of the gate. Hopefully Ryan Zimmerman is there for the full complement of games. We hope that Adam LaRoche is there and has a typical Adam LaRoche season. We hope that Jayson Werth has a typical Jayson Werth season."
"We feel that there will be improvements in [Wilson] Ramos and [Ian Desmond] at short and [Danny Espinosa] at second base," Rizzo said, "We feel that we're going to get an uptick in offense just from those players improving and getting to their career norms. I like our rotation. I like our bullpen. I think that we're going to play better, smarter, more fundamental baseball. Davey [Johnson's] going to manage this team as good as any manager in baseball, so I feel good and I feel optimistic about where we're at. We're never satisfied. I always see places that need an improvement. But, with that said, we like our ballclub and our goal is to be playing meaningful games at the end of the season in September and beyond."
Asked what work remained to be done this winter, the Nats' GM said that the Nationals would, "... like to do some subtle things. We'd like to improve our bench. We'd like to improve our depth in the minor leagues to help us, if need be, on the major league level. Davey and I are going to put our heads together and see exactly what he needs as far as bench strength for him to manage his game effectively. So I think we're going to be looking at all aspects and if something bigger that's acquire-able is something that helps our ballclub and that fits for us in the long-term we'll certainly look into doing something like that... We're always looking, we're always going to be aggressive and we're going to always try to improve the ballclub, even though we think that we're vastly improved over last year, and we still think that we can get better."
(ed. note - " * = Rizzo on Sammy Solis - "The Sammy Solis thing has been sidetracked because he has strep throat, so we're waiting for that to be cured for him to go see Dr. Yocum and we'll have further information after that." Solis reportedly felt pain in his elbow after his last AFL start.")
• LINK: Pt. 1: "Washington Nationals Officially Announce Gio Gonzalez Deal, D.C. GM Mike Rizzo Talks About The Trade."
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Happy Holidays Everyone!
May you find a high OBP centerfielder under the tree.
Special shout out to the fearless leader Patrick. Thanks for making this the best place for Nats fans to hang out and vent about Matt Stares
"I was a victim of a series of accidents. As are we all."
---Malachi Constant
by The Herndon Kid on Dec 24, 2011 8:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions 5 recs
+ a ga-zillip!
Happy Christmas Eve/fifth night of Hanukkah/Kwanzaa Eve eve/Third day after solstice/season’s greeting of your choice!
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
by jbg2772 on Dec 24, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good Holiday to all as well
and +1 to Herndon Kid’s wish for a high OBP hitter.
"Things are going great, and they're only gettin' better..." Timbuk3
by BinM on Dec 24, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Seasons Greetings and Happy New Year to all
February 19th can’t get here soon enough, and I expect more surprises from
Rizzo before then.
by gengreen17 on Dec 24, 2011 9:32 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
i believe Lannan had one option year remaining
I believe he was added the the 40 man in 2007 and has only been optioned once since then. In 2013 I think he’ll have enough MLB service to be able to refuse an assignment. Why is he so diff from det? Lannan was picked in a much later round and signed a minor league contract. Due to the rotation that most of us have purged from our memories, he was needed in the bigs very quickly. The opposite is det who has spent a lot of time on the 40 man but in the minors. Someone correct me if I’ve interpreted the rules wrong
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man
Det was just the obvious example of someone...
…whose status might affect the decision-making this Spring.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 24, 2011 10:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lannan has one option remaining
Earlier in the off-season, some chatters suggested Rizzo give Detwiler the rotation spot, and option Lannan.
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
Lanna may have two, fwiw...
He was purchased by the Nats in 2007, activating the option rule without burning one. His first option was used in 2010, when he was sent to HAR to re-set some flaws in his delivery. With 4+years of service, he’s in his last year of option status (at 5+ years, a player can refuse to be returned to the minors, per the CBA).
"Things are going great, and they're only gettin' better..." Timbuk3
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!
PS: Pitchers and catchers report in 56 and a wake-up. Getting short.
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Merry Christmas all!
Quick question – if LaRoche returns to first base – is Morse returning to LF?
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry, you know anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?" - Crash Davis
That's the plan as of this moment...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 24, 2011 10:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Nationals are a little shallow with hi-end SP's right now
Parra could be a good grab, but not at the cost of MLBSP right now; For a couple of mid-level prospects, OK. Maybe Detwiler & a GCL/AUB OF, at most.
"Things are going great, and they're only gettin' better..." Timbuk3
We could grab some SP depth in FA
I would only trade Lannan if Ladson is right and Det will be in the rotation, because sending Lannan down in favor of Det assuming Lannan at least looks compitant in ST does not send a good message.
MOAR SEVERINO!
by jeff550 on Dec 24, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd like to get Parra, but I'm not sure about trading Lannan.
We know what we have with Lannan, and Wang and Detwiler or question marks. I’d lean more to trading Det for Parra. Too bad these guys are out of options.
Lannan has options, but I really think it would start something bad if Lannan was sent down
unless he had a horrible ST
MOAR SEVERINO!
Also, if we trade Lannan
one thing we could do for depth is sign Livo as a long man. Or we could try to get someone like Cook, or Davies on a AAA deal
MOAR SEVERINO!
I don't think Livo works as a long man
his warmup routine is so elongated, it would be worse than when Gorzo was first sent to the pen. Besides, Stammen’s pencilled in as the RH long man to complement Detwiler/Gorzelanny.
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
i think livo could be a bench hitter!
better than some last season
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man
(Bench bunter)
"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane
Brings up the question:
Can Gio hit? Or bunt, at least?
"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane
Livo takes FOREVER to warm up...
and needs regular reps to stay sharp; He’s been a SP for 16 years. Plus, replaceing Lannan with Livo in the rotation is a downgrade at this point. We all love the big Cat, but there comes a point where you just have to let it go.
"Things are going great, and they're only gettin' better..." Timbuk3
But with Livo he can just throw in the pen when the game starts
and not get tired till the game ends
MOAR SEVERINO!
Gio wants Fielder for Christmas
Well Santa Rizzo?
I don't have a very high opinion of southern California, in sports or in general
RobBobS's new favorite pitcher:
@GioGonzalez47: “Now that we are in the Nations Capital, we need a Prince. Come on Fielder!”
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 24, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
if only this guy got to decide who is naughty, and who is nice....
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." Lance Berkman......LBIMH...
by cat daddy3000 on Dec 24, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I really hope Raccoon Santa got me the SMiLE sessions box set...
[hint, hint]
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 24, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
will you leave milk and cookies and then moar cookies..................and then some more??
Brian Wilson RAWKS!!!
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." Lance Berkman......LBIMH...
by cat daddy3000 on Dec 24, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Who am I to argue?
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
the songwriter, or the ones in whose beard the baby raccoons could hide?
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
heh........baby raccoons snickering is cool...
nah, this guy…
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Oct04/articles/smile.htm
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." Lance Berkman......LBIMH...
by cat daddy3000 on Dec 24, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions

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