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The Washington Nationals, Prince Fielder Rumors And Bryce Harper And Gio Gonzalez On Twitter.

ST LOUIS, MO - OCTOBER 13:  Prince Fielder #28 of the Milwaukee Brewers gestures after he hit a double in the top of the fourth inning against the St. Louis Cardinals during Game 4 of the National League Championship Series at Busch Stadium on October 13, 2011 in St. Louis, Missouri.  (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

2010 no.1 overall pick and potential 2012 Nats' outfielder Bryce Harper (@BHarp3407) reacted the same way a lot of fans in NatsTown did when they heard about the Nationals' acquisition of now-former A's lefty Gio Gonzalez, writing on Twitter this past Thursday that, "Now all we need to do is get Prince! hah." Precocious kid! Twitter! Hah. So, then on Saturday, a day after Washington officially anounced the deal with Oakland for Gonzalez, the Nats' new pitcher (@GioGonzalez47) took to Twitter, writing to tell all of his followers, "Now that we are in the Nation('s) Capital, we need a Prince. Come on Fielder!"

When the details of the new social media guidelines in the CBA are announced, they might frown upon this sort of thing, but neither player has removed the Tweet from their profiles, and they're really just two voices among many clamoring for the Nationals to try to sign the 27-year-old '02 Brewers' 1st Round pick who's on the market this winter as a free agent after seven seasons in Milwaukee in which he posted a combined .282/.390/.540 slash with a 162-game average of 32 doubles and 37 HR's.

It's not just young and new Nats or fans in NatsTown talking about the possibility of Prince playing in the nation's capital in 2012. Washington Post writer Dave Sheinin considered the possibility recently in a Nationals Journal post entitled, "Some thoughts on Prince Fielder."...

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The Gonzalez trade (which sent four Nats' prospects to Oakland, three of them from the last Baseball America Top 10 prospects list) was aggressive and signaled to some that the Nats were going for it now, so adding the best available bat to their middle of their order makes sense, Mr. Sheinin argues, plus the Nationals have the wealthiest owner in baseball and the franchise is expected to have a financial windfall from an expected increase in tv revenue...

But, the WaPost writer suggested, even if the Nats and Prince Fielder's agent Scott Boras, (who's no stranger to Washington with clients like Jayson Werth, Stephen Strasburg, Harper, 2011 1st Rounders Anthony Rendon, Alex Meyer and Brian Goodwin, etc.), were talking, "... it is unlikely to become public knowledge until the very end," just like the Werth talks stayed off the radar until just before the deal was announced. "Boras’s modus operandi when it comes to his biggest clients," the Washington Post's Mr. Sheinin wrote, "is to negotiate directly with ownership, bypassing the general manager." This also serves as a means of limiting potential leaks the WaPost writer notes in the article.

FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal was less kind in describing the relationship between the Nationals and Scott Boras as he wrote recently in an article entitled, "Fielder should be Cubs' player to lose", that, "Some executives still expect Fielder to hear from the Nationals," before adding that the Nats have been, "the preferred ATM of the Scott Boras Corporation in recent years." ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick (@JCrasnick) too wrote on Twitter recently that, "Baseball people waiting for Mike Rizzo to 'bail out'' Boras on 1 of his free agents. But $250M for Prince is an awful lot of bailing."

D.C. GM Mike Rizzo was asked again about the recurring rumors on Friday night in a conference call with reporters, and he once again stated that as things stand, 32-year-old Adam LaRoche is set to play first for the Nationals in 2012 in the second-year of the two-year/$16M dollar deal he signed with Washington last winter. "That is correct," Rizzo told reporters, but when asked later in the interview if the Nats were done making moves this winter, the general manager said Washington would be considering all possibilities for improvement and," ... looking at all aspects and if something bigger that's acquire-able is something that helps our ballclub and that fits for us in the long-term we'll certainly look into doing something like that..."

And that was enough to keep hope alive for some. And for those that believe, the Nationals don't have to have a deal with the hard-hitting first baseman done by Christmas morning, but Nats fans might appreciate a card with a picture of what was supposed to be under the tree...It doesn't matter what anyone says, this chatter won't stop until Prince Fielder signs...somewhere...

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Not gonna lie.

The Nationals are on all of our Radars, but a Prince Fielder signing would put this team in the national spotlight. Something I believe this Club could use more of. The Nationals are one of the best up and coming teams in baseball either way. I just think this signing would get them there faster.

Fear the Turtle!

by HailToTheRedskins on Dec 25, 2011 2:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

It's an interesting debate...

The question some ask is whether 3-4 years from now you’re going to want around $40-50M tied up in a 32-33-year-old Prince and a mid-30’s Werth. I’m on the fence. Signing Prince could turn the Nats into contenders this year, but long-term this sort of financial commitment could be crippling.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 25, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Incentivise it or skip it

I think the Nats are gonna be great this year with or without Fielder. But if they come to a deal, I think it needs to be heavily incentivized in the out years. For instance, guarantee him the next 3 years at $25M a piece, but the 4 years following should be contingent on his ability to play 150 games / year (with typical performance) the preceding year. I’d bet come 2015 he’s out of shape and/or injured. Would the Lerners bet $100M against?

by DaRube on Dec 25, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

That works for the Nats

Not for Fielder. He wouldn’t consider that in the million years.

You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!

by Bsullivan on Dec 25, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That's right

For his next deal, Fielder be reaching for hot biscuits smothered with gravy. Nothing less.

Forgive the food metaphor – hard to miss, shall we say.

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Dec 25, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Could it be the same reason as Rizzo used for Dunn?

You figure that if he is stressing pitching and defense then Prince doesnt really fit into that mold; long term or short

by Fear_Redskins on Dec 25, 2011 6:37 AM EST reply actions  

For argument's sake, a 6-7 year deal would be like getting Dunn at the beginning of his deal in D.C...

I agree though, he doesn’t fit into the pitching, defense, speed and athleticism mold that the Nats were espousing last winter.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 25, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, given Fielder's age,

The two years equivalent to Dunn’s years in DC would be years 2 and 3 of a Fielder contract (roughly).

by d_c_guy on Dec 25, 2011 2:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Defense is very important.....

But so is scoring runs.

Time to be bold.

Bring Fielder to D.C.!

by RandyJuan on Dec 25, 2011 7:02 AM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't root against bringing Price to D.C.

But it would be going against the four “pillars” that turned us from a 2-time 100 loss team into a competitor, and we still haven’t seen our team’s peak. He might be the exception, and he has a good chance of him being worth it, but there are potential problems to consider.
If we do sign him though, the Nationals will unquestionably be the second most popular team in D.C. for the next 2-3 years(at least).

Skins rule

by Horcasitas4 on Dec 26, 2011 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, Everybody!

I’m haven’t found that BIG NEW BAT under my tree…yet…STILL WAITING.
I’m putting on my bravest smile as I look at the newer collection oof bats that are obvious retreads and hoping the new, really big one is just a bit late getting here. :-}

I wish Baby Raccoon #3 would leave the panettone and stollen and glug and nog long emough to set Rizzo straight!
BIG NEW BAT…NOW!

BRs #2 and #3 OTOH are so cute in their holiday wear saying nice things about all the bats they see…so positive and hopeful, but I see that faint bit of doubt in those shiny little eyes. That new tummy scratcher is nice and all…and they don’t want to seem ungrateful since lots of babies didn’t even get one of those,………but…….visions of the Big Bat have been dancing in their heads…

No matter what is or is not under your tree, have a joyous and special day, everybody!

"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011

by MissB on Dec 25, 2011 8:30 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

You too, Miss B. I thought it was a pitcher (not a new bat) that you needed instead of a belly itcher/tummy scratcher...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 25, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I wanted Yu Darvish AND Moar Offense!

Hoping Gio cuts down the walks and his curve gets even nastier.
But the men in red and white need another reliable bat with pop…in CF. I’m not on the Sign Prince Train no matter how much RobBob tries to control my mind…or how many turbans he dons.
But a big hit of Offenza is necessary to contend. AND so far, the potential bench bats don’t seem to have enough bash strength to play Davey Ball.

"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011

by MissB on Dec 25, 2011 4:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Since Santa didn't leave a BIG NEW BAT under the tree...

maybe the Easter Bunny will drop off an early gift before he gets busy hiding the eggs. You never know!

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and Seasons Greetings, DC Faithful!

Back to the lab to check on dinner…Pinky, where are the oven mitts?!

"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain

by brook on Dec 25, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

"panettone and stollen and glug and nog..."

“I had no idea what that stuff was, but it was all delicious!!!”

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." Lance Berkman......LBIMH...

by cat daddy3000 on Dec 25, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, #3, time to sign up for Jenny (Craig)...

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"

by jbg2772 on Dec 26, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Prince is not the Christmas Present that the Nats need

Mike Rizzo has been saying, all fall and winter, that we need a true center fielder and a top
of the line-up bat. I believe him. Jason is not the answer, in center field. Let’s spend the
money wisely and in the interest of the long term health of the franchise. Go get a center
fielder. If LaRoche falters, at first base, we still have Morse. That would free-up an outfield spot for Harper.

Merry Christmas to All Nats fans.

by delcoast on Dec 25, 2011 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

Merry Christmas, and good points.

Just don’t tell Harper and Gio that today, break the sad news after the holidays. heh.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 25, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Ax me, Peter Bourjos'd be more like it

…if we could pry him lose from LAA.

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Dec 25, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

T'ain't money they'd be after

They’d want talent – and for Bourjos, plenty of talent. LAA still got some holes to plug in their infield, and ’pen.

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Dec 25, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard a really good argument regarding Morse the other day

Do you really expect him to have another career year? That was the first time he’d been healthy through an entire season. LaRoche is not the answer at first, and Morse isn’t either. If you’re committed to Werth(and we are), and if you’re committed to Harper (and we are), would you move Morse for a solid Center Fielder, and pick up Prince at first? I’d consider it.

"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."

by Whiter Mage on Dec 25, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't

Stand by my Morse prediction: in 2012, more homers than Fielder. At 1B, always less risk of injury, but Morse’ll do it from LF too, comes down to it. And check this: if Nats sign Fielder, and Morse hits in the same batting-order with him, Morse will still hit more homers.

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Dec 25, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

What Whupass said!!

by DaRube on Dec 25, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong but...

what makes you so confident that Morse will hit more HRs than Fielder?

by RandyJuan on Dec 26, 2011 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he likes to draw to inside straights, too.

Rob

--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds

by RobBobS on Dec 26, 2011 1:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ye' don't say. Ax me, Mike Morse is trip Kings on the deal, boyz

…and the price o’ poker just went up.

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Dec 27, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Fielder's too fat to crane-kick

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Dec 27, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That got a chuckle outtame...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Dec 27, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Merry Christmas everyone

My sister made me a Nationals fleece blanket, perfect for late October night games.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Dec 25, 2011 12:59 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Or those cold January nights

…55 days and a wake-up.

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Dec 25, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

No way Boras would take that.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Dec 25, 2011 3:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Even if the only other team offered something like 6 years 120

cause the Mariners can only offer so much, and the O’s I dont think are really serious

MOAR SEVERINO!

by jeff550 on Dec 25, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Trust me, he’s already had bigger offers.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Dec 25, 2011 6:02 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Well..............

Theres a reason he has’nt sign yet………….

Shorter career, just like dad………And those last three years will be in AL………..

I have been on the fence this whole time. With the understaning that 5 years was the max any sane GM offers………

6=7=8 years………..Thats the a big NO-NO-NO.

by artistfork on Dec 25, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Bench help?

I say sign Dmitri Young to a minor league contract. The guy wants a chance to come back to mlb and it wouldn’t hurt to plant him in Marrero’s 1B spot in AAA ball for a few months on a minor league contract. Then if LaRoche isn’t healthy or gets injured again, we have insurance so Morse can stay in left field. It would be a good power bat to add to the bench… interesting and great to see that he has turned into a health-nut now and lost 70+ lbs… great.
Then Sign Fielder and put him on the Young diet. Ya never know, he could then surpass his father’s career.

by natexpo on Dec 25, 2011 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

Moore will be in Marreros spot

but there is a DH in Syracuse

MOAR SEVERINO!

by jeff550 on Dec 25, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

good point

I didn’t consider Moore, should have… he’s a sure bet for AAA.. well deserved

by natexpo on Dec 25, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Merry Christmas

Gio Gonzalez is enough for me this holiday season, if they happen to add Prince Fielder I won’t be upset. If they don’t get Fielder, I won’t lose any sleep. LaRoche is a steady defender and could be a lefty pinch hitter when Morse gets the occasional start at 1B instead of LF.

Prince would be a nice centre piece to the lineup, no denying that, but the team might be able to find a bat without the huge price tag (if they lose out a bidding war). How about adding an assumingly cheap Brad Hawpe and moderately priced Ryan Ludwick?

by Andrew Davidson on Dec 25, 2011 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

This semi-former Cards fan

Is not very high on Ludwick.

"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."

by Whiter Mage on Dec 25, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

semi-former?

This too shall pass.

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Dec 25, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

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