Washington Nationals' GM Mike Rizzo Talks Adam LaRoche And Prince Fielder On MLB Network Radio.
Writing about the market for 27-year-old first baseman Prince Fielder on Sunday, FOXSports.com's Jon Morosi, in an article entitled, "Offseason twists to continue into 2012", predicted that if the soon-to-be-former Brewers' slugger, "... remains unsigned after a few more weeks, prepare for the rumblings that he might have no choice but to take a short-term, huge-dollar deal." Mr. Morosi listed the Mariners, Cubs and Blue Jays as teams with interest and added that you couldn't rule out the Rangers or Nationals or the fact that as in most Boras' negotiations, "...there might be more suitors than we know."
Less than 24 hours later, St. Louis Post-Dispatch writer Derrick Goold examined the market and the marketing of the seven-year veteran who finished the 2011 season with a .299/.415/.566 slash 36 doubles and 38 HR's in 162 games and 692 at bats, and concluded that at Fielder's relatively young age (compared to Albert Pujols at 32-years-old) another possibility existed if he and his agent couldn't find the sort of long-term deal Pujols signed and they've been rumored to be after this winter. "His age creates an interesting detour that this market could take for Fielder," Mr. Goold wrote, "the shorter, higher-priced deal. Fielder could take a five-year deal with a higher average value than Pujols' $25.4 million, still set a record and reach free agency again at 32, Pujols' age next season."
"That way," the St. Louis Post-Dispatch writer noted, "the once-in-a-decade player that Boras describes would be available to the highest bidder twice in the decade."
Scott Boras isn't buying it.
In an article by ESPNChicago's Bruce Levine on Tuesday, Fielder's agent "shot down" the idea that his client would accept a 3-year/$26M dollar deal. "'Not only is that inaccurate and delusional,'" Boras told ESPNChicago's Mr. Levine, "'but it seems that some people have gotten into their New Year's Eve stash just a little bit early this year.'" The ESPNChicago reporter says that there are at least six teams involved in the bidding for Fielder's services, and he notes that Boras had previously told him that the, "... bidding would start at seven years for Fielder."
As for how the rumors of the agent and Fielder considering a short-term deal got started, Boras told the ESPNChicago writer, "'It appears some baseball people are just bored,' Boras said. 'That's when you hear ideas like that floated.'"
Are the Washington Nationals, who were mentioned as potential suitors and have been linked to Fielder all winter in a variety of reports, actually interested in pursuing the big first baseman whether it's a long-or-short-term deal? D.C. GM Mike Rizzo told reporters last Friday that Adam LaRoche (who has one year left on his 2-year/$16M dollar contract w/ Washington) would be the Nationals first baseman in 2012, but the general manager has said as much before and the rumors have persisted. The GM was asked about those rumors again this morning during an interview with MLB Network Radio host Mike Ferrin:
Mike Rizzo: "Adam LaRoche is under contract for us. We're paying him a lot of money to play first base for us next year. We feel that he's going to have a bounce-back season. We just want him to have his career norms, .265 [AVG], 25 [HR's], 85-100 RBI's and play great defense. We feel that his shoulder is rehabbed. He's 100% and talking to him just recently, he feels great and he's ready to contribute [for] us in 2012. As far as, 'Are we going to dabble our toe in that water [Fielder],' those are decisions that we make early on in the process and we've more or less decided that Adam [LaRoche] is going to be our first baseman, unless something extraordinary, out of the ordinary happened that's how we're going to go to Spring Training."
Somehow, I imagine that last line will keep the rumor mill going until Prince Fielder and Scott Boras find the deal they're after.
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Yeah, I heard Rizzo flat denied it
But after seeing the quote, I don’t read that as a flat denial, I think there’s still some wiggle room there, but if Fielder lowers the number of years he’s looking for I think a lot more teams will enter the bidding. Most teams just don’t want to give that many years to someone that overweight, and they’re right to think that way so I don’t see Boras selling anyone on 8 years, without an out in there somewhere for the club.
Ross Detwiler will have a breakout year...Believe It!...and I'm serious this time!
Every quote I've seen from him ends with that sort of comment, keeping the possibility alive...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 28, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't say it's that high
I’d say 10% chance he winds up in Washington.
Ross Detwiler will have a breakout year...Believe It!...and I'm serious this time!
Just asking !
Frankly I hope he doesn’t end up in DC at all..but I know I’m not in the majority with that thought.
I honestly think the somewhat ambiguious statement is more as a favor to Boras...
Rizzo doesn’t think Prince fits what he sees as the long-term direction for the Nationals, but he stops short of a flat denial in the press. That way, Boras can use the Nats as one of his ‘mystery teams’ when negotiations start up, and the relationship between Rizzo, the Lerner’s & Boras Corp. stays friendly. Just my opinion…
"Things are going great, and they're only gettin' better..." Timbuk3
You don't give a long contract
to a fatty. If Fielder wants that once in a career contract he needs to drop weight quickly.
Weight's not an issue right now.
If it’s just a 3-4 year contract, I’d take it. Longer than that, I’d need to think about it.
Thats what I am saying
We heard he was first looking for a 10 year deal, I think I also heard 7 years. I am not going to want a 37 year old 300+ lb 1st baseman making 25 million. A contract that ends when he is 30-32 is the farthest I would go, even then I would hope that its a front loaded contract.
What does it matter if it is front loaded or back loaded,
The total value is all that matters, the Lerner’s have plenty of money, so the year to year budget isn’t all that important, plus back loaded money is worth less.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Way I am thinking
if its front loaded it will make him a bit easier to trade in the final years when he is probably going to be a DH not a 1st baseman.
Then the Nats just throw in money as part of a trade.
In baseball, where there is no salary cap, front loading is always better for the player and worse for the team.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
You know,
One thing I find interesting is how some people see fat sluggers such as Prince Fielder and Mo Vaughn and compare them and automatically conclude that they’ll share the same fate(late career collapses due to weight).
But Fielder has actually been far more durable than Vaughn. Take Fielder’s age 22-27 seasons and Vaughn’s 23-28 seasons and it’s pretty clear that Fielder has played more games than Vaughn, both in total and in terms of individual seasons.
Now this could mean that Fielder has more wear and tear and has a higher risk of collapsing later in his career, but it could also mean that Fielder would end up being far more durable than Vaughn ever was.
I’m not trying to impose some Brew Crew bias here, I’m just saying that the Fielder to Vaughn comparisons aren’t as set in stone as people think it to be.
As for other fat sluggers to compare with, I’m not sure because I don’t know any other suitable comparisons(been too lazy to do some thorough research on it :P)
Go ahead, make my day.
Sadly, Tony Gwynn's career was shortened
by his weight…his knees and legs pretty much gave out. He could still hit, but he could barely make it to the base and he spent more and more time on the DL. It was heartbreaking to watch…classiest guy in baseball still.
"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011
by MissB on Dec 28, 2011 6:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He still played until his 40s,
But he certainly didn’t play as much as he did earlier in his career.
Go ahead, make my day.
by ilikeburritos on Dec 28, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
Gwynn was a classy guy, no mistake
but he forgot the first rule of any athlete – hell, any person – which is to take care of your body.
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Sorry - that sounded a bit self-righteous
and we’re all human. But guys who get paid a lot of money for their physical gifts and talent need to be a little less human – otherwise, they can always drive a cab.
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
We need Prince to lead our Offense
KROSENTHAL said how Boras surpasses GM’s and speaks directly to ownership and has currently talked to several owners and the owners are extremely shocked and impressed by what they hear and end up learning additionaly about Fielder…the Owners have been talking to Prince VIA phone calls and I am personally hoping Mr.Lerner is having these talks with Fielder because Prince was the leader inside the Brewer’s ballclub behind closed doors leading his teammates to play harder etc..and this can really help our young team unlike any other free agent player ..This was how Werth got that huge contract because he was talkin directly to Mr.Lerner..Nats need to continue this awesome buzz about the chance we finally have to contend and Signn Prince Fielder
by Sportzxpert on Dec 28, 2011 5:06 PM EST via Android app reply actions

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