Wire Taps: Washington Nationals Lunchtime Links, Rumors, Jayson Werth, Prince Fielder, Yoenis Cespedes.
• [Yawns]...Is it time for Spring Training yet? The big news yesterday was D.C. GM Mike Rizzo's comments about the team's troubles finding the center fielder they've been after all winter. That and his comments about the Prince Fielder market. The Nats have said time and time again that they plan on going with Adam LaRoche at first in 2012, but no one wants to believe they're out of the market for the big soon-to-be-former Brewers' first baseman. Rizzo said again that the Nats will likely go with LaRoche at first, and having looked at the center field market they are comfortable going with Jayson Werth in center if they have to, though the GM did say they've scouted Yoenis Cespedes extensively without saying one way or another whether they'll get involved in the bidding for the 26-year-old soon-to-be international free agent. Are the Nats done adding big-name talent to the 2012 roster? Is it all about bench bats and bullpen arms from here on out? Is it time for Spring Training yet? No, it's time for links, RIGHT NOW!!!...
• THE BIG STORY!!!:
• "In an era when true sluggers get more rare every year, Fielder, 27, is on a Hall of Fame path so far. Some team may get a surprisingly decent though dangerous deal soon." - "Prince Fielder’s price is not right for Nationals right now" - Thomas Boswell, The Washington Post
• NATS BEAT:
• "Few teams could experience a midseason managerial resignation like that and actually emerge in a better place, but in hiring Davey Johnson the Nationals managed to do just that." - "Best Moment of 2011" - Mark Zuckerman, NatsInsider.com
• "9. But between Ryan Zimmerman, Danny Espinosa, Mike Morse, Ian Desmond and Anthony Rendon, the Nationals have a lot of options." - "The 10 best infields in Major League Baseball" - Buster Olney, ESPN
• "Ryan Zimmerman had already entered the regular season less than 100 percent healthy, having strained an abdominal muscle and his groin during spring training." - "Worst Moment of 2011" - Mark Zuckerman, NatsInsider.com
• "[Jayson] Werth is no stranger to center field, having played 123 games there in his nine-year career. But the most games he's played there in one season is 31 in 2008." - "Nats seem to be leaning toward Werth in center" - Pete Kerzel, MASNSports.com
• "The Nationals made a risky gambit when they traded four prospects to Oakland last week for one player..." - "Pitching is now minor problem for the Nationals" - Brian McNally, Cheers & Jeers | Washington Examiner
• "During the Winter Meetings, manager Davey Johnson acknowledged that he called DeRosa after it was learned that first baseman Chris Marrero would not start the 2012 season on time." - "Source: Washington Nationals nearing deal with Mark DeRosa" - Bill Ladson, nationals.com: News
• "Barring a high bid on Cuban defector Yoenis Cespedes, the Nationals will enter the 2012 season with Jayson Werth in center field." - "The Nationals may wait to land their center fielder" - Adam Kilgore, Nationals Journal - The Washington Post
• "Last Friday night, Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo spent almost 20 minutes on a conference call with reporters talking about the Nationals pre-holiday haul." - "Rizzo talks Fielder, LaRoche and first base... again" - Amanda Comak, Washington Times
• "[Mark] DeRosa appeared in just 73 games between 2010 and 2011 with the San Francisco Giants, hitting .235/.313/.279 with one homer and 201 plate appearances." - "Nationals, Mark DeRosa officially agree to one-year deal" - Adam Kilgore, Nationals Journal - The Washington Post
• "Having joined the Nats as an assistant general manager and vice president of baseball operations on July 26, 2006, Rizzo was no newcomer to the organization." - "What if ... Jerry Dipoto had gotten the GM gig that went to Mike Rizzo?" - Pete Kerzel, MASNSports.com
• "The 36-year-old can play multiple positions, and Washington hopes he solidifies a bench that manager Davey Johnson wasn't entirely happy with by the end of the 2011 season." - "Nationals sign utility veteran DeRosa" - Brian McNally, Washington Examiner
• "I know he had injured his left wrist but I had him in the World Baseball Classic and he's a really quality guy. I really like him." - Davey Johnson on Mark DeRosa - "Nationals announce one-year deal with Mark DeRosa" - Amanda Comak, Washington Times
• "Remember when the Nats moved over .500 in June for the first time since 2005, on the strength of 11 wins in 12 days? That was awesome. Then, like two seconds later, Jim Riggleman resigned..." - "Top 11 D.C. sports moments of 2011" - Dan Steinberg, DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post
• Your Daily Message From The Dalai Lama On Twitter (@DalaiLama): "To suppose that we can achieve peace through violence is altogether misguided."
• NATS MINOR/WINTER LEAGUES:
• "One of those players we will hear from is former Georgia Tech third baseman Matt Skole, who had a very promising start to his career with Auburn." - "New wave of prospects expected to move up from Auburn in spring" - Byron Kerr, MASNSports.com
• Liga Venezuela Beisbol Profesional: Aragua 6, Caracas 3 - Wilson Ramos (ARA) - 0 for 1, Henry Rodriguez (ARA) - 1.0 IP, 1 H, 3 K's - Box Score.
• Liga Venezuela Beisbol Profesional: Magallanes 12, Zulia 4 - Carlos Maldonado (ZUL) - 0 for 2, 1 BB; Sandy Leon - 1 for 1, 1 RBI - Box Score.
• Liga de Beisbol Dominicano: Licey 6, Gigantes 4 - Jhonatan Solano (LIC) - 2 for 4, 1 2B, 2 RBI's; Atahualpa Severino (LIC) - 0.2 IP, 0 H - Box Score.
• NATSTOWN:
• "With a world of possibilities still open to the Washington Nationals this off-season, it’s starting to look more and more likely that Jayson Werth will be in center field when opening day rolls around." - "Could Jason Michaels start season in right field for Nats?" - Dave Nichols, District Sports Page
• "At some point this offseason, I realized I wanted Nationals GM Mike Rizzo to sign the 5 foot 11 inch, 285 lb. (listed) Prince Cecil Fielder because of a promise he made to the fans of DC." - "The Promise of Fielder" - The Jackobeam Chronicles
• "As he tweeted, Bryce Harper got a dog for Christmas. He named him Swag, which is awesome in and of itself. Now, however, Swag has his own Twitter account. Yep." - "Bryce Harper’s Dog Takes Twitter" - Keara Dowd, Win For Teddy
• "Strangely enough, we're having a hard time recalling any of these highlights, save for Werth's line drive HR off fat Joe Blanton and the Phillies." - "Believe it or not, there is a Jayson Werth 2011 Highlight reel" - Nats Enquirer
• "Just yesterday MLB.com’s Bill Ladson reiterated that Wang will be part of the Nationals rotation. That leaves just one spot for the battle of young lefties between Ross Detwiler and John Lannan." - "Detwiler vs. Lannan: Battle for the Rotation" - Joe Drugan, The Nats Blog
• NL EAST UPDATES:
• Phillies: "As you are no doubt aware, the Phillies acquired closer Jonathan Papelbon in November, agreeing to a four-year, $50 million contract with a fifth-year option." - "A Lesson in Playing the Market" - Bill Baer, Crashburn Alley
• Mets: "The Poynter Institute highlighted this correction to a New York Times blog post from last May regarding the name of R.A. Dickey's bat as one of six notable ombudsman corrections in 2011." - "An item in the Extra Bases baseball notebook last Sunday misidentified, in some editions, the... - Matthew Artus, Amazin' Avenue
• Braves: "Today we continue our off-season series examining the Atlanta Braves non-roster invitees (NRIs) to spring training with a look at utility infielder Drew Sutton." - "Braves NRI In-Depth: Drew Sutton" - gondeee, Talking Chop
• Marlins: "But the point is that the Marlins are building a ballpark that couldn't be more Miami if they made you lick a flamingo's beak before entering." - "Has The Marlins' Spending Spree Done Them Any Good?" - Grant Brisbee, Baseball Nation
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How can Rizzo run a tight ship...
if the players leak the news?
Maybe the Nats really are into Fielder? More than likely they are only interested if his price comes down, but who wouldn’t be?
by jimmylauderdale on Dec 29, 2011 11:52 AM EST reply actions
well, we know half the players really want Prince on board..
but I’m banking on Rizzo maintaining his solid judgement for a bit longer.
Morse, Gio and that Harper kid have publically commented on Prince already...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 29, 2011 12:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Do the Nats
Have a social media policy? If not, do you think they implement one in the near future?
I don't have a very high opinion of southern California, in sports or in general
by short_shifter on Dec 29, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'm guessing the new social media rules in the new CBA will address this stuff...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 29, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
My question – how on Earth would any player know anything about the Nats’ level of interest, unless they’re hearing it through Prince himself (in which case do you believe it’s genuine or is it Boras’ hot air)?
Votes for "Hot air"
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 29, 2011 12:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Another vote for Boras' hot air...
Someone ought to harness that. It could power a family of 4 for a while.
"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011
by MissB on Dec 29, 2011 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
or all of nats parks energy needs on non-game days
and dan snyder thinks he has the green stadium….
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man
Cmonn get Prince
I say 25% chance we sign him…If this is true and Boras keeps talking to Mr.Lerner or Prince wants to come play here like Werth did and is convincing Mr.Lerner about what he can bring to the table only time will tell… I have a feeling he wants to come here…no where else not even rangers bc of the heat I’ve been told and marlins..has to be with our soon to be WS CONTENDERS WOHOO lol
by Sportzxpert on Dec 29, 2011 11:59 AM EST via Android app reply actions
not I’ve been told..I’ve heard sry typo..hard typing without the sideways keyboard lol..
by Sportzxpert on Dec 29, 2011 12:00 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Heyman elaborates: (Ed note: "extr-a-ordinary"):
@JonHeymanCBS: heres more about the #nats player who says washington is in mix for prince. on http://t.co/OS15c9Bn. http://t.co/wImWZxJV
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 29, 2011 12:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think this waiting is benefitting clubs
As painful as it is to wait, I think the market for Fielder will actually develop faster once the price comes down a bit. I fully believe that the players involved in Fielder will be the Mariners, Cubs, Orioles, Jays, Brewers, and Nats with mystery teams being the Dodgers, Marlins, and Giants. Throw the Rangers in there as a very slight possiblity.
Out of those, the price needs to drop SIGNIFICANTLY for the Mariners, Orioles, Brewers or Giants to pursue him. The Mariners apparently reported that they operated at a loss last year so I don’t see any money for Fielder coming from them. The O’s probably have cash but we all know that Angelos doesn’t spend plus I doubt that Fielder would want to go to a team so far away from playoff contention and just adding him won’t bring them there. The Brewers could land him on a short deal to make up for the fact that Braun won’t be around for 50 games and try a make another run at the post season, but I think he wants to be paid now and Boras won’t allow something like a one or two year deal which is all Milwaukee relatively has in the pot as far as funds. The Giants can’t come to a deal with Lincecum so I doubt they could come to a deal with Prince.
The Rangers would most likely have to lose out on Darvish to go for Prince. Adding just one of them probably puts them as WS favorites, but considering they had the most potent offense last year, I feel they push to get Darvish done and signed and Fielder doesn’t go to Dallas.
Now for the true contenders. The Cubs, Jays, and the Curly W. The Cubs need to decide what they are going to do with Garza. They are on the verge of rebuilding and by the time that they are really ready to compete, especially after clearing house to get Garza last year, they will need probably 4 to 5 years to rebuild and get into contention level. Fielder could be a guy to build around, but if 4 to 5 years out is your intended sweet spot for contention, Fielder would be of much less value than he is now, meaning that Fielder would likely WANT to go to a contender NOW.
The Jays. This makes sense having hitters like Fielder and Joey Bats in the lineup and could do a great deal of damage in the AL East. That being said they also need more solid pitching. I think that the Jays have more than a few pieces to fill in order to overtake the Sox, Bombers, and the Rays. Fielder could fit here but again, more pieces are needed to complete this team. Still, they can compete with signing him now and competing with one or two years, still getting max value from Fielder. The desire to force a five year deal or less is what prohibits the Jays from being more in contention in the Fielder race though.
The Dodgers. My feelings here are that the Dodgers as a dark horse candidate could be a very serious suitor for Prince. Loney is a really, really consistent 1B. His downside is his lack of home runs, even considering Dodger Stadium is spacious. If the Dodgers wanted to spend though, it makes sense to push it over the edge and up the offense. The downsides here are obviously that Loney was offered arbitration and is well cheaper than Prince. Also they just signed Kemp long term and are going to be going through ownership change. This most likely prevents the Dodgers from signing Fielder.
This brings us to are much loved Curly W, the Nats. The Nats have a few obvious pieces holding back the bidding on Prince. 1. LaRoche is currently signed for this year WITH a 1 Mil buyout remaining, thus 9 Mil owed. That is a tough pill to swallow to have the guy ride the bench with a 9 mil salary. His defense is tops, and his bat isn’t terrible when healthy. Problem is he is coming back from labrum surgery and although it is stated he 100%, it’s hard to really know. 2. The People’s Champion Mike Morse. Enough said we all as fans saw what he can do at first base and with the bat. His downside is his age, turns 30 this year, and if really had a career year or not. Now signing Prince doesn’t necessarily mean that Morse is gone, he would just play LF, but for how long? The logjam here is two outfield spots are taken by Werth and eventually Harper. You could say that Morse is in the OF this year with Fielder at 1st, but what happens when Harper comes up and you don’t want Werth as your starting CF? This is probably the biggest of the conundrums stirred up in the FO right now, what to do with Morse. Marrero and Moore are too far off the radar and most likely will not pan out to be anywhere close to Morse or Fielder.
My suggestion still hasn’t changed. Make the deal for Prince. Suck up the fact that you either bench LaRoche as a late inning defensive replacement or send him packing and eat a majority of his salary when you move him. Not a bad guy, but he really shouldn’t have tried to play out there with his injury, and should have had the surgery earlier. He doesn’t make the situation any easier because if he just had the surgery after ST last year, he easily could have been swinging a bat in the minors by the end of the year, showing what he is capable of. Morse stays in left and Harper starts in right, Werth in center. I know most feel Werth isn’t a capable defender in center and although that might be right, I feel that after such a bad season last year, Werth bumps up his entire game and plays very strongly in center next year, playing high caliber defense, his bat comes back a bit, and the “terrible outfield defense” of Morse, Werth and Harper is not even thought about. Prince brings a new power facet to the team and we have a REAL shot not only at the postseason, but also at making it to the WS.
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Wow
I didn’t think it was that long when I typed it!
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tldr
sorry :/
I don't have a very high opinion of southern California, in sports or in general
by short_shifter on Dec 29, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
I don't blame you.
It looks good taking up space though! :)
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Paraphrasing -> GO
Of those interested in Fielder, and some I’ve added:
Needs low price → Mariners, Orioles, Giants, Brewers.
Needs shorter contract length → Jays
Needs more sense → Cubs (rebuilding), Dodgers (new Owners)
Makes sense but needs to move pieces around → Nationals
Everything in there goes into long winded depth on why I made those selections and why the Nats should sign Fielder.
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That's FanPost sized. :) Don't be afraid to post over there, more people will probly see it over there.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 29, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks Patrick!
I put it up in FanPosts!
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Re Dodgers
I’m pretty sure the reason they won’t pursue Fielder is their shambles of a financial system. It won’t be because they’re all that fond of Loney, who’s just about as worthless as LaRoche as a first baseman.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
by RobBobS on Dec 29, 2011 2:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought at one point last year
The Nats were trying to pry him away from La La Land. Maybe it was just a rumor, but if we have moved up from looking at guys like Pena, LaRoche, and Loney as plug in pieces for a few seasons to assess a position of need for this team to long term solutions like Fielder, we have definitely moved up the ranks as a franchise.
I read now that we are in the top ten, albeit the bottom of the 10, for 10 best Rotations, Bullpens, and Infields. I doubt that we are in the top 10 in outfields though.
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Morse/Werth/Harper
Would definitely make the cut.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
by RobBobS on Dec 29, 2011 3:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, yes it would
and Fielder might move that infield up a few spots, like to 3or 4.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
On a completely different subject
Why is Ramos still playing winter ball? I would have thought they would have him take more than six or seven weeks to rest his knees before P&C.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
by RobBobS on Dec 29, 2011 2:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Probably because he started late
Thanks to those jerks who kidnapped him. I’ve got a special reaction for those fellas if I ever meet them! You don’t mess with the future All-Star backstop of the NATS!
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Aren't they all dead?
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
by RobBobS on Dec 29, 2011 3:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, worse. They're all in Venezuelan prison awaiting fair trials.
I managed to think that without an ounce of sarcasm or irony, too.
"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane
Maybe he's working on something/trying to find his rhythm, doesn't appear to be hitting too well.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 29, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
I think he's missing the guy yelling out
“WILLL-SONNN!”
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
by RobBobS on Dec 29, 2011 3:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
[Wilson slowly trots around bases]
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 29, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Prince
I think we’d be crazy not to sign Prince. I’m aware of the log jam at first. I understand why some of us are worried about the weight issue. But you gotta look at what this guy could do to a lineup like ours. In my opinion if we do land him, it catapults our offense as one of the best not only in the NL but in the entire MLB. And the whole argument over CF is irrelevant if we have this kind of fire power. C’mon Rizzo! C’mon Lerners! Make a big time statement!
by DC_Reb on Dec 29, 2011 5:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions

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