What Washington Nationals' GM Mike Rizzo Said About The State Of The Nats.
The Washington Nationals have the pitcher they were after, having acquired Gio Gonzalez from the Oakland A's in a four for two trade. They've conceded that the center fielder they're looking for might not be available this winter. D.C. GM Mike Rizzo's comments about Adam LaRoche, Prince Fielder and the Nats' search for an outfielder got most of the headlines following the Washington Nationals' general manager's appearances on MLB Network Radio and ESPN980 this past Wednesday, but he did talk about a few other things.
Asked what remained for Washington to do this winter, Rizzo told MLB Network Radio host Mike Ferrin, "We've got a lot of work to do. We're never satisfied. We'd like to supplement our bullpen a little bit. Get a little veteran presence in there. We'd like to address our offense. We certainly would need to figure out an answer in center field for us and so we still have some work to do. We never sit on our laurels here. We've got a vision and a plan in place to make these things happen. But we do these things and deals that make sense for us and if a deal makes sense we'll aggressively pursue it, but we're not going to do anything knee jerk just to do something and try and fill a gap when it doesn't make sense for us in the long-term."
The acquisition of Gonzalez, (a 26-year-old left-hander who figures to slot in between 23-year-old right-hander Stephen Strasburg and 25-year-old righty Jordan Zimmermann), in return for four prospects (24-year-old left-hander Tom Milone, right-handers 23-year-old Brad Peacock and 19-year-old A.J. Cole and 22-year-old catcher Derek Norris) was, "...within the threshold of pain-tolerance," Rizzo said the organization could accept to get what they wanted, and it was made easier by the fact that the GM and his front office believe they have, "... a group of minor leaguers below them in the next wave that's coming that we feel will be as strong if not stronger than the wave we've given up."
"My tolerance was at the level that we were," Rizzo said, "Giving up four for one we felt was something that we did not want to do and [A's GM] Billy Beane and I negotiated a deal that we got a nice piece back in [24-year-old right-hander] Robert Gilliam that kind of took a little bit of the sting off and made it a 4-for-2 deal instead of the 4-for-1, but make no bones about it, we gave up four good, solid prospects for a known 26-year-old commodity that we feel is going to be strong for us for a long time moving forward."
Filling out the rotation is a process that will take place in Spring Training as three pitchers battle it out to join what Rizzo referred to as the Nats' "young, big three" Strasburg, Gonzalez and Zimmermann. "We're going to have great competition for rotation starters," the GM told the ESPN980 Radio hosts Thom Loverro and Kevin Sheehan, "We've never had that problem here since I've been around." After Strasburg, Gonzalez and Zimmermann, battling for the final three spots will be a, "25-year-old Ross Detwiler, you've got a 31-year-old Chien-Ming Wang [and] you've got a 27-year-old John Lannan," Rizzo said, "That's three guys that we feel that give us great depth and great ability-levels."
"We feel good about our rotation. We feel good about our depth after our starting five," Rizzo said, even after the deal with Oakland that sent MLB-ready arms in Peacock and Milone to the A's. "We feel that we've got replacement parts for them, because as we all know, it takes more than five starters to get through a major league season. We feel that we have depth there. We feel good in our bullpen. We feel good about our good young core of position players. And, the most important part [of the Gonzalez deal] was, and a part that our threshold of pain would not allow us to (and this was told to Billy Beane), we weren't going to touch our group of young core players that are already in the big leagues."
When the Nats eliminated the possibility of including players like Wilson Ramos, Ian Desmond, Danny Espinosa, Drew Storen, Tyler Clippard, Jordan Zimmermann, Washington's "two super prospects" as Rizzo describes them in Strasburg and Bryce Harper and the prospects from the 2011 Draft class, the A's were still left with a large pool of players to choose from in the Gonzalez deal and the Nationals' GM said, "When we narrowed it down to the players that our tolerance allowed us to do it, we felt that it was a prudent deal for us to do because it got us what we needed and fulfilled all of our criteria. This guy has to be young, controllable, talented and the make-up has to be there, the physical abilities have to be there, the medical history has to be solid and we feel that we checked all the boxes when we acquired Gio [Gonzalez]."
The Nationals' GM spoke at length about the possibility of signing soon-to-be international free agent Yoenis Cespedes, using Jayson Werth in center and potentially bringing Bryce Harper up to fill a role in the 2012 Nats' outfield, but hinted that the 2013 class of free agents might be more likely to provide the team with the center fielder they've been after all winter. ESPN.com's Buster Olney wrote Thursday in the, "Moves, deals and decisions" section of an article on the best infields in baseball that their was another possibility for the Nationals to consider if they'd entertain a "short-term stopgap" option.
Cubs' outfielder Marlon Byrd could probably be had, ESPN.com's Mr. Olney suggests, "He's a good guy and a solid veteran when healthy," and with the 34-year-old in the final year of a 3-year deal that pays him $6.5M this 2012 before he becomes a free agent he wouldn't block the likes of Harper, who should be ready to join the Nats' outfield in the near-future. The Nats' GM didn't mention any other options they team is exploring, but he did tell the ESPN980 hosts Washington wasn't done.
"We're never done," Rizzo said, "We're always trying to tweak the ballclub, to improve the ballclub and any kind of acquisition cost that makes sense to us, we're going to be aggressive in trying to fulfill it."
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For bullpen help, I still say we should take a flyer on Kuo
because if he is healthy, a Kuo, Clippard, Storen back of the bullpen would have to be the best in the league. If we can get Kuo on a MiLB deal, I see no reason not to try him out.
MOAR SEVERINO!
Kuo
Kuo is done. His arm has undergone at least four major repairs over the years, and last season he was racked with an anxiety disorder. I wish him well, but I’m not exactly sad to see him out of Dodger blue. Likewise, I would take a pass on him as a potential bullpen arm for the Nats.
Hm, this man speaks the truth
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Didn't know about the anxiety disorder
that tears it
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
It may or may not be full-blown...
…but he’s got, at the very least, the “yips.”
"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane
Marlon Byrd
He’d be a good addition but I wonder what the cost would be. Rizzo wouldn’t want to give up much for one year of a player. Hard tosee him pulling a trigger, doesn’t seem to be his type of move.
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
I think Rizzo is fine with the current roster.
Especially if he thinks Harper won’t be in the minors more than a month or two. If Morse can put up another good season, then Rizzo will pencil him in as 2013 1b, and get a cf to go with Harper and Werth next offseason.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
I think Davey is forcing the issue
Of playing Harper right out of the gate. I trust Davey over Rizzo and I have to believe that there is more than just Davey pushing to have Harper start. If he is the generational talent that he is hyped to be, letting him dwindle in the minors will no way advance his development like being an everyday MLB starter. If we somehow went with the ideal situation, well MY IDEA of an ideal situation, of signing the big guy and playing an outfield of Morse, Werth and Harper, there is an off chance that with Harper’s speed and talent that he may be able to take over CF within a season or two, moving Werth to right again and allowing us to keep Morse on the roster for a few more years in left.
This is obviously a stretch of the imagination and we need to do the whole “wait and see” thing. Good news is P&C is only six weeks away! Hopefully we see a short, round hitting machine come to camp shortly after that!
Name a number between three and five.
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Threeve.
Two months
For at least an extra year in his prime. I’ll take that trade any day. Keep him down until June or July.
He won’t sign a long deal because boras wants him to become a free agent. So we should keep him down.
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
It's only 10 games to get the extra year of team control.
Two months is to avoid arbitration earlier, but arb is only money, team control is for the same number of years. I think he will be worth the extra money.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
THEN............
he starts in the minors…………Cause the first chance he gets, Harper is out of here to play for the Yankees, Cowboys, Lakers or whatever BS team he roots for………………….
What makes you say that
Im a Nats fan, and even if I was drafted by the Rangers, I would cheer for the Nats. I also know that if I got equal offers from both the Rangers, and Nats I would go with the team that drafted me. I have seen nothing from Harper that says he would bail on the nats
MOAR SEVERINO!
I DON'T trust Davey over Rizzo on Harper.
From most accounts, it seems The Cyborg’s fielding is still suspect in the OF though he does have the cannon arm. He needs more reps and time in the minors to hone those skills before moving up to the big league.
Imagine how many extra base hits opponents get with this OF:
RF: Super green Harper
CF: an out-of-position Werth who slides and misses too much…nobody refers to him as a gliding, rangy CF…AND
LF: For the coup de grace, Morse with his suspect and definitely subpar D.
NO THANK YOU very much! Ugh, ugh, and big UGH.
That puts too much of a burden on the pitching staff and probably takes the team out of any kind of meaningful contention even for a wild card spot.
I still like Crisp for a year, maybe two.
"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011
Yeah huh?
Never forget that Harper came up as a catcher. He don’t know what the hell he’s doing in the outfield – still learning how to play right, let alone center.
Short term, I likes me some Coco Crisp too – and short-term is all we’re gonna get right now. Sorry. No, I ain’t sorry – that’s just the way it is.
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Great Competition
Rizzo said, “We’re going to have great competition for rotation starters….We’ve never had that problem here since I’ve been around.”
This is not exactly true: remember 2009 when Lannan, Olsen [winces], Cabrera [shudders], Martis [chuckles], and Zimmermann barely beat out the likes of Stammen, Mock, Detwiler, Martin… that sure was close, biting nails right until the roster was announced. Or, maybe he means “great” as in good pitching….
by ParkShark on Dec 30, 2011 11:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Cabrera was a force when he figured out how to use the mound...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 30, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
"What's this toe thing for again?"
"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011
No, we musn't forget the Garrett Mock era. Or the Garrett Mock ERA.
"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane
Bullpen options for the Nats
Francisco Cordero-To much money
Ryan Madson-To much money
David Aardsma (29)-Didnt pitch last year, so no
Jeremy Accardo (30)-NO
Luis Ayala (34)-Do we really want to go there again. He was good last year, but no thanks
Danys Baez (34)-NO
Miguel Batista (41)-As much as I like Ms. Iowa, no
Taylor Buchholz (30)-Decent option for the right price
Shawn Camp (36)-Decent option, even if he is a Robinson grad(Go Lake Braddock!)
Todd Coffey (31)-Wouldnt mind him back(MOAR SPRINTING)
Juan Cruz (31)-Decent
Chad Durbin (34)-no thanks
Aaron Heilman (33)-NO
Clay Hensley (32)-no thanks
Jason Isringhausen (39)-no thanks
Brad Lidge (35)-Would be a good veteran, but price would probably be to high
Scott Linebrink (35)-You could do worse, but no
Mike MacDougal (35)-He would be a good option, agian for the right price
Pat Neshek (31)-Would be a good personality, but his pitching really isnt very good
Ramon Ortiz (39)-NO
Micah Owings (29)-He would help our hitting
Vicente Padilla (34)-no
Tony Pena (30)-NO
Chad Qualls (33)-Wouldnt be bad
Fernando Rodney (35)-NO
Dan Wheeler (34)-maybe
Kerry Wood (35)-Wouldnt be bad, but dosent he only want to play in Chicago
Jamey Wright (37)-no
Michael Wuertz (33)-no
Joel Zumaya (27)-Wouldnt be bad, but would proably be to much money
Left-handed relievers
Rich Hill (32)-Signed with boston
Mike Gonzalez (34)-no
Aaron Laffey (27)-wouldnt be bad
Damaso Marte (37)-no
Trever Miller (39)-wouldnt be too bad
Darren Oliver (41)-Would be a good vertan addition
Arthur Rhodes (41)-no
Doug Slaten (32)-HELL NO
Brian Tallet (34)-NO
MOAR SEVERINO!
Except maybe a lefty..............
I don’t see the bullpen need…………….
Correction............
lefties: Burnett, Gorzo, DET
Righties: Storen, CLIP, Hrod, Stammen
I dont see a need for bullpen help
just going by what Rizzo said. Im fine with what we got. Also dont forget Severino as a lefty option, and Mattheus as a righty option
MOAR SEVERINO!
And Kimball, if he's healthy!
"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane
Storen Clippard and Rodriguez
Is all I’m comfortable with on that list. I like Stammen and Severino but only as fallbacks. Think about it. What to do when the inevitable happens and some of them get hurt or underperform?
Whats the frequency, Kenneth?
I have faith in everyone at AAA to perform if called on
Arnesen, Severino, Wilkie, Zinicola, Mandel, Martin, VanAllen, Stammen, Tatusko plus the depth we sign and Storen, Burnett, Clippard, Rodriguez, Mattheus, Gorzelanny, Detwiler. Not to add that we could have help in AA with Pena, Lehman, McCoy, Testa, Nelo, Smoker, and Frias could all be MLB ready next year. Obivously they wont all turn out, but its nice to have some depth
MOAR SEVERINO!
Arms on top of arms...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Dec 30, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions

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