2011 MLB Winter Meetings: Yu Darvish Will Be Posted Today, Will The Washington Nationals Bid?
According to both Yu Darvish and his agent Don Nomura, the 25-year-old soon-to-be-(potentially)-former Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters' right-hander is, "... being posted tomorrow," as Mr. Nomura reported on Twitter (@DonNomura) tonight. Darvish reported the news on his own site, thanking fans for their support while announcing that he'd decided to use the posting system to try to make the move to Major League baseball after seven seasons in Hokkaido with Nippon Ham. Darvish finished what could be his final season in Japan with an (18-6) record, 10 complete games, six shutouts, a 1.44 ERA, 276 K's (10.71 K/9) and 36 BB (1.40 BB/9) in 28 starts and 232.0 IP for the Fighters.
Once he posts tomorrow, there will be a four-day period during which MLB teams bid for the right to negotiate a deal with Darvish. After the offers are in, the Nippon Ham Fighters have another four days to accept an offer. If they do, the team that wins the bidding process has thirty days to work out a deal with the pitcher who is widely considered the best pitcher outside MLB. If no deal is reached, the team's money is returned and Darvish will go back to Japan.
Rumors earlier this week had the starter ready to announce his decision to enter the posting process when the MLB Winter Meetings concluded. A report out from NikkanSports.com Wednesday night promised that Darvish would announce his decision on his own blog on Thursday. Just after 1:00 am EST Thursday morning, Darvish announced on Twitter (@faridyu) that he's made his decision. In a report from Sports Hochi earlier this week translated at Yakubaka.com, Darvish's other agent Arn Tellem told reporters that if the right-hander, "... can not get an offer that is considered 'appropriate for Japan's Ace,' they will simply withdraw from negotiations and Darvish will return to Japan in 2012."
When the Washington Nationals missed out on left-hander Mark Buehrle Wednesday night, getting outbid by the suddenly free-spending Miami Marlins, D.C. GM Mike Rizzo said the Nats would continue to pursue the rotation addition they've talked about wanting all winter. Darvish doesn't exactly match the profile of a proven veteran the Nats' general manager has spoken about wanting, and the Nationals haven't been mentioned often in connection the Darvish, but when asked what "Plan B" was after missing out on Buehrle, Rizzo told reporters (as quoted by NatsInsider.com's Mark Zuckerman in an article entitled, "What's Plan B? Might be the status quo.") that the search would continue:
"'It could be free agent," Rizzo said. "It could be trade. It could be the international market. We're going to explore all options, as we usually do, and see if we can come up with a match.'"
Asked earlier this winter if the Nationals had scouted the Nippon Ham Fighters' right-hander, the Nationals' GM told reporters that they'd scouted Darvish in the past and had again in 2011:
"We scout every player that we have interest in. Yu Darvish, specifically, is a player that has a great talent level," Rizzo said, "We've scouted him over the years, I've scouted him personally over the years, our pro scouts have scouted him this year specifically. We've scouted the whole Japanese Professional League as well as every other international league that plays organized baseball.
"As we've always said," Rizzo continued, "We're open to acquire talent in any way, shape or form that we can, and if it's international talent, we're certainly willing to acquire international players." Asked when he last saw Darvish pitch personally, the Nats' GM said, "I haven't seen him pitch for the last two seasons, but we've seen him pitch this year, several times."
Nats' skipper Davey Johnson, who's said often he'd be happy to enter the 2012 campaign with the pitchers he has already, told MASNSports.com's Pete Kerzel earlier this week, as quoted in an article entitled, "Davey Johnson on rotation, Marrero, DeRosa, Darvish, Detwiler", that he was impressed with Darvish:
"'I like him. Big, strong, hard thrower. Actually throws a lot like Americans - you know, big, awful hard stuff. He's got good command. That's going to be an expensive deal, too, right there, but I do like him,' Johnson said."
The Texas Rangers, Baltimore Orioles, Toronto Blue Jays, New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox (among others) have been mentioned often as teams with interest in Darvish. Bobby Valentine, the Red Sox' new skipper, who managed against the right-hander in Japan, was asked about Darvish in a press conference at the Winter Meetings this afternoon and told reporters he didn't know how Darvish's skills would translate to the majors:
Q: What are some of the things that you think make Yu Darvish successful in the Major Leagues if he came over here? Valentine: "I have no idea if his talents will translate at the Major League level if he came here, but he's a quality pitcher. He has size, quality, velocity, breaking balls, very good hands. He makes the ball do a lot of crazy things on its way to the plate. Great competitor. If those things translate into another uniform, whether it's another uniform in Japan, who knows?"
At least one beat writer following the Nationals think they'll make a play for Yu Darvish. Washington Post writer Thomas Boswell wrote in a recent chat that, "...the Nats have been circling Yu Darvish for about five years."
"If you are looking for Nats targets, look at Darvish," the WaPost writer wrote, "Young, hard thrower. The price would be high because of the 'posting fee" to get him from his current team. And Matsuzaka's semi-failure __relative to paying $102M for him__ has made people shy of starting pitchers from Japan. But that might help open the door a bit for the Nats. Believe me, he's been on the Kasten, Bowden, Rizzo radar for years."
If the Nats' scouts like what they've seen (and they've reportedly recommended signing Darvish in the past), will D.C. GM Mike Rizzo add the right-hander to the mix along with Jordan Zimmermann, Stephen Strasburg, John Lannan, Chien-Ming Wang, Ross Detwiler, Tommy Milone and Brad Peacock?
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I honestly think the Yankees are going to beat everyone by $20m on this deal.
I expect a $60m posting fee.
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by The Herndon Kid on Dec 8, 2011 7:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I hope you're wrong, but fear you're right..
The Nars are NUTS if they are hoping Peacock and/or Milone will be reliably good MLB starters in 2012.
Rizzo needs to stop all the glib talk and sign a GOOD experienced pitcher.
"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011
by MissB on Dec 8, 2011 8:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh, and sigh Yu Darvish!
"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011
by MissB on Dec 8, 2011 8:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
SIGN YU.
Did you see the new fans who came out whenever Wang pitched? Yu would be triple that or more. (non-scientific guess)
I don't think you have to move LaRoche
He would be a good left-handed bat off the bench. Although they might have to move him because he would throw a fit.
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Almost NINE times....
If you throw in Iran as well…….
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Just trying to encourage our front office! :-)
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Yup
The Yankees have been too quiet with all of the other starters for a team so desperately in need of pitching, they will spend a fortune on Darvish. I say sign Oswalt now, before the other teams figure out that they’ve missed out on Wilson and Darvish and drive the price up.
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So, that's going to be the big move for the Nats' at the winter meetings?
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
Weird.
With the Nats bench darn near non-existent, you’d think there might be a bat out there somewhere they could have kept around.
Rob
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Maybe they've got a plan in place....
Of course that plan will wind up not working and we’ll be left with Alex Cora and Matt Stairs.
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Did anybody get a bench player out of last year's Rule 5 draft?
We lost Michael Martinez last year, which turned out to be no big loss.
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Martinez had no stick
but was apparently pretty valuable for his flexibility and his solid glove work.
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
Is that something we really needed on our roster, though?
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I suppose Lombo could pass as a utility guy
but I don’t know if he can play third or the outfield…?
Rob
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He can play third
I doubt he’s played outfield. But yeah, Lombo’s a better utility prospect than Martinez was.
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Martinez couldn't hit a lick in MLB
HIt .196 and was the defintion of replacement player with 0.0bWAR.
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Which is perfectly fine for a Rule 5 guy
a year in AAA in he’ll be ready to contribute.
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
I'm not lamenting the loss of Michael Martinez
The stick has been an issue throughout the bigs. He learned how to play some outfield and that got him a year with the Phillies, but I don’t think that we’ll be seeing much of him in the bigs going forward.
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Martinez will likley never be anything
his age and results are working agaist him very much so
MOAR SEVERINO!
Since we missed Buehrle...
I want Yu
I want Yu so bad
I want Yu
I want Yu so bad
It’s driving me mad, it’s driving me mad.
(Note: not really driving me mad, well madder)
OHHHHH BABY YU!!!
Definitely worthy of a LINK. In spite of that hipster car commerical’s attempts to co-opt Biz’s flow.
#don’tevengivemethat
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by Patrick Reddington on Dec 8, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Pujols to Angels - 10 years/$250 million
TBrownYahoo:
Source: Pujols will sign with Angels for 10 years for between $250 and $260 million. Full no-trade. Pujols decided Thursday morning.
WOW!
That’s a whole lot of cabbage from the Angels. That should take the Angels out of the CJ Wilson sweepstakes, right? There’s some good in Pujols being in the AL too since he can DH at the back end of that contract.
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Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Angels want BOTH Pujols and C.J. Wilson. #MLB
they’ve offered Wilson 5 years/$70+ mil reportedly
We'll see whether Wilson wants the money
Haven’t the Fish offered 6 years?
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Hard to pass up that money I guess.
He won’t have to face the Cardinals but so much.
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Which brings me to the more important question:
how much money is “enough”?
I know the Player’s Union doesn’t usually “let” players give hometown discounts, but Sir Al should have stayed a Cardinal, even if it cost him some.
I’d say more, but there’s some kids out on my lawn I’ve got to chase away…
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
Would have felt right for him to stay a Cardinal.
But I guess he wants the cabbage.
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This is a great idea
Good platoon mate for LaRoche.
Ross Detwiler will have a breakout year...Believe It!...and I'm serious this time!
Also, even better, but more risk
Kendrys Morales.
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Disagree
Trumbo’s a nice player, but most of the scouting reports I’ve seen on him don’t put him as a future star. Good pop, but he’s probably an average to slightly above average 1B, which is better than LaRoche, but not as good as Morales when he’s healthy.
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Yeah I agree
I think Ricky Henderson is the ultimate example, maybe one of the best players of the last 25 years—and possibly the best interview ever—but not really beloved anywhere because he bounced around so much. Also, who wants to live in L.A., people are essentially cardboard cut-outs, pretty on the front, with no depth.
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kerzelpete:
St. Louis picks #Nationals Triple-A OF Eric Komatsu with 22nd pick in MLB Rule 5 draft. Nats got him for Hairston.
Really?
That’s a shocker. Komatsu was garbage after the trade. .599 OPS in about 140 at bats.
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I thought that perhaps his prior record was more indicative of his potential than a few weeks in Harrisburg
Apparently so did the Cardinals. One CF candidate gone, at least unless and until the Cardinals offer him back.
Rule V Draft
Nats didn’t pick, or lose anyone in the major league portion.
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kerzelpete:
Yankees take #Nationals RHP Brad Meyers from Triple-A with 29th pick of MLB Rule 5 draft.
I think he'll end up returned. I can't see Meyers on their MLB roster all year.
I would be happy to see him make it, though. I’d like to see Smoker survive. There was a rumor that the Pirates might take Smoker.
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He'll be back
He’s not ready and the Yankees won’t have anywhere to hide him. If he’d gone to the Royals or Padres, I’d be concerned.
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We'll have to get back at them by posting for Darvish.
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He's put up solid numbers for several years now
I doubt that he’ll win a Cy Young ever, but I certainly think that he could hold a decent ERA as a fifth starter.
He's also had health issues.
Solid guy but I hope the Yankees solve their pitching issues in some other ways and end up returning him.
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I do too.
But I think the fact that we hope for this is a pretty good indication that it is far from a lock to happen.
Yeah, well the fact that the Yankees just spent fifty thousand dollars to draft him
is a pretty strong indication to me that it’s not a lock that he’ll be back.
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
Slaten couldn't be cut.
Has to do with arbitration eligible methinks.
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He'll be cut in a couple of weeks; besides, Slaten has nothing to do with Komatsu and Meyers
The Nationals have three open spots on their 40 man roster even with Slaten on the team.
Yes, but I am assuming they kept those spots open to sign FAs
because they had to declare weeks ago. If they don’t have Slaten, then they could protect one more, without cost.
I'm not sure I understand where your indicator is
Every single Rule V draftee costs $50,000, and yet most ultimately are returned to their original team.
Yankees got another Rule 5er, Cesar Cabral from the Red Sox
Traded cash to the Royals for the pick.
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That's about the nerdiest one I've seen yet.
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Now, if one wanted to add support to the sentiment,
one could opine
Sqrt( 1 – cos^2(u) ).
i.e.
+ sin(u) .
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
kerzelpete:
In Triple-A phase of Rule 5 draft, #Nationals select C Bo Seabury from Rockies Double-A Tulsa roster.
Does that mean they're going to move a C
Would seem like they’re good at that spot in AAA, unless they deal one of their 3 catchers.
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I was just thinking
The Nats could use another catcher…
kerzelpete:
In Double-A phase of MLB Rule 5 draft, #Nationals takes RHP Matthew Bushman from Padres Single-A roster.
*Buschmann
37 starts in AAA, ERA/FIP not that attractive, 133K/86BB.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man
MarkZuckerman:
Mike Rizzo wouldn’t say whether #Nats will put in bid for Yu Darvish, but they’ve scouted him for a long time and have some interest.
orioles expected to announce trade later today
adam jones to nats [crosses fingers, toes
Danny Knobler, CBS Sports
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by Patrick Reddington on Dec 8, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
JoeFrisaro:
#Marlins have a 6 yr $80 million offer on table for CJ Wilson It may not be enough for him to say yes
Joel Sherman tweets that the Halos nabbed CJ Wilson as well.
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I expect it to be announced this afternoon that the Marlins have purchased the LA Dodgers in bankruptcy court
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man
Two $50,000 picks lost in the ML portion, and...?
I don’t know what happened in the minor league portion, or how much those picks cost.
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
$24k in AAA phase, $12k in AA, iirc
"Things are going great, and they're only gettin' better..." Timbuk3
Hmm. Well the Diophantine equation 24x + 12y = 16
does not have any solutions.
So something must be wrong.
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
No more tabaccy
Players have to pay for it themselves.
More balls I think instead!
"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane
weill be interesting to see what Fielder goes for
at least Mr. Pujols won’t be a Marlin, so we won’t have to face him all the time. Maybe he didn’t like the new uni. and if the Angels get Wilson, too, good for them for beating out the fish
They did
I’m also going to pretend that it’ll be Strasmas every 5th day this year. Strasburg > Wilson/Buerhle
Ross Detwiler will have a breakout year...Believe It!...and I'm serious this time!
Well, until late July/early August anyway
When Strasburg gets to ~165 innings, they are going to shut him down.
Honestly, if I were Davey and serious about that 165-inning thing...
At end of June, he’ll be about 120 innings, right? I’d see what our record is at that point, and if we’re doing contention-well I might consider slowing Strasburg down to every 10 games or something (have him alternate with our longman, Gorzo or Stammen) and saving him for September/October.
"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane
I'm going to pretend that the Nats signed Prince Fielder as their everyday first baseman
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
what's your upper limit for an acceptable Fielder contract?
Just curious, given Pujols deal.
Keep the faith.
#signDarvishtoo
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by Patrick Reddington on Dec 8, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
So essentially less than Albert got, despite the age difference
Not arguing, just noting.
Isn't that about the same, on a per-year basis, as Pujols?
Pujols: 10 year, 254M = 25.4 mill per year
Fielder: 8 years, 200 mill = 25 mill per year.
Shouldn’t Fielder cost a little less than Pujols, despite the age difference? I’d think Fielder would be more like 8 years for 180 million………
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Actually
If people were being rational and Fielder wasn’t so overweight, he would command a higher salary than Pujols, but given the weight teams won’t go past 7 or 8 years, although they might go more per year.
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