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Washington Nationals: Spring Training Day Two, Ryan Zimmerman Speaks.

The Nats' Face of the Franchise, Ryan Zimmerman, the Washington Nationals' first 1st Round pick, was open about his desire to see the Nats' big middle-of-the-order bat Adam Dunn return to the nation's capital in 2011. After Dunn launched a fastball from the Phillies' Jose Contreras to right for a walk-off HR (his 38th HR of 2010 and last as a Nat) in the next-to-last home game of the season, the Nationals' third baseman publically addressed the situation, telling Washington Post writer Adam Kilgore, in a Nationals Journal post entitled, "Adam Dunn's homer sends Nationals past Phillies", about how he'd like to see the big slugger return to launch HR's out of Nats Park:

""I think we've all said enough,' Zimmerman said, before saying some more. 'If they don't sign him, they better find someone good to replace him. I think all of us think that. I think, more important, all the fans think that.'"

At the Nationals' jersey unveiling in November, Zimmerman spoke to the D.C. press corps, as recorded by MASNSports.com's Pete Kerzel in an article entitlted, "Zimmerman: Nationals can't afford not to re-sign Dunn", which quoted the 26-year-old, six-year veteran saying, "if you take [Dunn] out of the middle of the lineup, it's going to be hard to replace him. It's going to do a lot (of harm) to our team." 

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When Dunn's decision to sign a 4-year/$56 million dollar deal with the Chicago White Sox first broke, and before it was made official, Zimmerman told the Washington Post's Adam Kilgore, in another article entitled, "Adam Dunn agrees to four-year contract with White Sox", that it was an unfortunate development for the Nats and the middle of their order, "'I'd be disappointed for me,'" Zimmerman said, but, "'I'm very happy for him. Obviously, if he's going to go there, he's going to get a four-year deal, and that's what he deserves."

Those were the quotes that made headlines at least. At the end of the Washington Post writer's early December article, Mr. Kilgore wrote clearly that the Nats' Face of the Franchise, "...did not lash out at the team's inability to resign Dunn," though he was described as being frustrated. "'To me, this is the place where I want to be, where I want to be for the rest of my career,'" Zimmerman was quoted saying, "'The only reason I wouldn't want to play here is if I thought we didn't have a chance to win. ... I still believe that we will.'"

In his first public comments of the Spring yesterday, Zimmerman apparently felt the need to reiterate the fact that he hadn't been criticizing the Nats' front office. "'I never said I wasn't happy with the team,'" Zimmerman's quoted saying in MLB.com's Bill Ladson's article on the interview with reporters at the Nationals' spring facilities entitled, "Zimmerman not upset with Nats over Dunn":

"'You have friends, you have teammates you enjoy playing with. It happens everywhere. I was not by any means saying anything about the organization. I think a lot of people thought I was.'"

Zimmerman went on to say that he was aware of the Nationals' plans to build the team through pitching and defense and though Stephen Strasburg's injury definitely set things back on the pitching end, the Nats' infielder thinks that Washington improved the team defensively. Though Zimmerman was just expressing his own frustration this winter, he was also fairly accurately expressing the sentiments of a fanbase that's been repeatedly asked to wait just a little longer for the Nats' brass to build a winner in Washington, and he continued to do so in a recent edition of MLB.com's Bill Ladson's, "Inbox: Extension for Zimmerman?", when a fan asked Mr. Ladson when the Nats' were going to give Zimmerman the sort of extension other young players around the majors have signed recently to keep the Face of the Franchise in D.C. beyond 2013 when his current deal expires: 

"'Within a short time span, [I want to be] very competitive and have a chance to really win every year. I mean it when I say it. If we can do those things -- compete, get better and get to that championship level -- I have no problem staying here the next 10, 15, how many years that I play.'"

Though he felt the need to clarify some of what he said, the Face of the Nats' franchise seems to have found his voice. And it just happens to be expressing the thoughts of the majority of Nationals fans who just want the team to finally be competitive. 

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I think ZIMM is P’oed. Zimm knows his numbers are going to drop this season. He knows DUNN was a topic of discussion in a town that draws 11,000 as soon as the skins hit camp. I think he leaves if we have not made a playoff apppearance. I think there will be no “Hometown discount” with that playoff appearance……….Even though Rizzo has cleaned up alot of messes. He has hitched his wagon to STRAS and HARPER……..

by artistfork on Feb 16, 2011 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

FWIW ...which isn't very much ...

I don’t think that Zimm is PO’d – I think that his disappointment was largely ameliorated by the signing of Jason Werth. If you believe in the concept of protection in a lineup (and stat geeks tend to dismiss it), Werth and LaRoche will provide Zimm protection in the lineup. With three more years to go on his contract, it’s very early to be having the “will he stay or go” conversation.

I also think that mind reading from afar is difficult to do with any degree of reliability or accuracy; in my experience it’s much more reliable as an indicator of the thoughts of the person doing the mind reading. YMMV.

by d_c_guy on Feb 16, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know if the Werth signing specifically was what did it. I do know that Zimmerman wants to see a commitment to winning. I certainly think that he’s seen more effort this year than in year’s past. Ultimately, as usual, most stuff comes down to how the team is doing in 2012. If Harper’s up, and he’s a fun guy who share the media spotlight with Stras and let Zim be ZenZim who doesn’t have to carry the franchise by himself, it will be all good. If not, Zimmerman will be come the Adrian Gonzalez/Prince Fielder of third base where we’re either looking to unload for major prospects or get even more aggressive for 2013.

In other words, GM’s GM and player’s play. He just needs to play to continue to be a valuable player and he’s enough of a professional to do that.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Feb 16, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I seem to sense more that a bit of anger in that post… lighten up my friend. It’s spring training! :)

by PerryMason on Feb 16, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m still trying to figure out how to prioritize the people I follow into groups or lists or something. I don’t mind subscribing to all the Nats who twitter but hearing about Collin Balester’s fishing expeditions is something that I’d like to be able to slide down the priority tree.

Not sure I want to hear exactly what’s going through Harper’s head most of the time. Might make me feel even older or something.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Feb 16, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Harper seems like the type

that will get himself in regular trouble because he has a Twitter account. Hopefully he understands that the whole world can read that stuff at any time.

by G8RB8 on Feb 16, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

I believe he was already getting himself in trouble with stuff between the draft and the signing period with some comments on the negotiations like “I’m willing to go back to school” and stuff like that.

Just play ball and take the interviews with personality for the meantime. Leave the blogging/twittering to Bally and Storen.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Feb 16, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Zimm Angry?

If we take players at their word when they’re not happy then why shouldn’t we believe them when they say they’re OK with something?

by ride2k on Feb 16, 2011 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

Upon meditation, Zim seems to me the kind of guy who would make sure that he would be as professional as possible most of the time. Seeing some kind of emotional reaction from him following Dunn leaves a lasting impression.

Who knows? We’re not in the situation and it probably just means he and Dunn go hunting in the offseason and root for each other from afar.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Feb 16, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Zimm wants to win...

And that means that if the team is improved defensively, which it has been, and if LaRoache and Werth’s hitting make up for Dunn’s departure, which it could, then he isn’t going to be unhappy.

I can’t imagine that Zimm is upset about being able to throw to first knowing LaRoache is there to help gobble up most errant throws. Adam can also cover more ground toward 2nd.

Regardless of how many homers Dunn gave us, could anyone ever feel secure with him covering first? His defense was a weakness that would only be more exposed if the team ever reached the playoffs.

by ride2k on Feb 16, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

And...

I forgot to mention. If letting Dunn go was such a bad decision then why did he wind up signing with an American League team? I’m happy the Nats aren’t the only NL team willing to put up with less than acceptable defense.

by ride2k on Feb 16, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

To me, the whole thing is no big deal

I think Zim was unhappy at the time. I think the team made steps to improve. I think that he remains in wait and see move while he continues to Silver Slugger and Gold Glove his away to a mega contract no later than 2014.

John Carlson: A real American hero taking names and settling scores.
Souldrummer: A regular guy trying to join Adam Dunn, Jordan Zimmermann, and Garrett Mock as one of RobBobS' guys.

by souldrummer on Feb 16, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

There's a bit of a non-sequitur here

Most NL teams are quite well set for first base, so the options were limited. He also was going to command scores of millions of dollars, so the NL options were further limited. Finally, he actually signed for a bit more than he was expected to get — which is really the bottom line.

Rob

This year will be the year that makes us all forget about last year.

by RobBobS on Feb 16, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Way overblown

Dunn whiffed on some throws, but every first baseman does. If you think that Adam LaRoche is going to “gobble up” every throw in the dirt or 4 feet over his head or a quarter way down the line, then you are going to be sadly mistaken.

I will say though that the defense is bound to improve without Guzman’s dreadfully weak and error-prone arm on the field, and Kennedy’s lazy tosses a distant memory.

Rob

This year will be the year that makes us all forget about last year.

by RobBobS on Feb 16, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Excuse me....

The quote was: “… LaRoache is there to help gobble up most errant throws…”

I said nothing about LaRoache gobbling up “every throw in the dirt or 4 feet over the head or a quarter way down the line…”

I’m sometimes sad, and sometimes sadly mistaken, but rarely so sad as to be that sadly mistaken.

by ride2k on Feb 16, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

My point is, of course,

that the number of throws that Dunn would have missed minus the number of throws that LaRoche would have missed is actually a pretty small number. I would be surprised if it amounts to more than 5 or 6 runs for the entire season.

Rob

This year will be the year that makes us all forget about last year.

by RobBobS on Feb 16, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

You could be right

But there are also the balls that with his lack of speed Dunn could not get to, especially moving toward the gap at second.

It might be hard to quantify either way, but I do believe there is a security and a professionalism that comes with an above average defender, and that to be a playoff team we need to not have a glaring weakness in the infield.

There’s something to be said about a defense without the potential of providing bad comedy on any given night. Though with Nyjer still in the mix we may have more of that to come.

by ride2k on Feb 16, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

He’d be smart to keep the pressure on management to keep improving BEFORE he ever signs a long term contract. I think he’s dead serious about being convinced that Washington is committed to building a winner before he buys in for the duration.

by ride2k on Feb 16, 2011 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

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