Washington Nationals Get Strong Start From Ross Detwiler, Drop 6-4 Decision To Florida Marlins..
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5. Detwiler Delays Inevitable One More Day: 25-year-old left-handed '07 1st Round pick Ross Detwiler is likely ticketed for Triple-A Syracuse to start the season as the Nationals' Opening Day rotation of Livan Hernandez, Jordan Zimmermann, John Lannan, Jason Marquis and Tom Gorzelanny is all-but set in stone, but he's making one last start this afternoon against the Nats' NL East rivals from Florida. Hip surgery last Spring set Detwiler back and cost him considerable time last season when many were speculating that he'd start the year as part of the rotation. The surgery and recovery limited the lefty to just eight games, five starts and 29.2 IP with Washington in 2010, but Detwiler came to Spring Training this year with a revamped delivery that has him finally looking like a 1st Round talent.
In four games, two of them starts, before this afternoon's outing, Detwiler's allowed 13 hits and six runs, four earned in 12.0 IP in which he's walked three and K'd 10. Against the Marlins this afternoon, Detwiler's strong, getting a double play grounder from Greg Dobbs after a one-out single by Emilio Bonifacio in the first and stranding two in the second after allowing back-to-back one-out singles. Detwiler hits Marlins' outfielder Chris Coghlan with one down in the third, then gives up a two-out double to Greg Dobbs that scores Coghlan from first just ahead of a throw in from Michael Morse in left to Desmond and on to Wilson Ramos at home. The Nats' catcher can't handle it, and the Marlins take the 1-0 lead.
The Nats tie the game at 1-1 in the fourth, and Detwiler returns to the mound to get three groundouts (the third after a two-out single) and finish his Sunday outing with 5.0 IP in which he allows five hits and one earned run while recording two K's. 65 pitches from Detwiler, 44 strikes according to WTOP's Craig Heist (@cheist) on Twitter. After the game, Detwiler told reporters, as recorded by CSN Washington and NatsInsider.com's Mark Zuckerman (@MarkZuckerman), that he knows what's in store:
"Detwiler's first step was to 'prove to myself I could compete here and I belong here. Now the next one is to prove it to everyone else.'"
4. Ian "Leadoff Desmond: A half-inning after Detwiler's HBP scores, Ian Desmond hits a one-out triple to center and by a diving Chris Coghlan to bring Jayson Werth up with one down and a runner on third. After fouling off three pitches from Marlins' starter Adalberto Mendez, Werth connects on a fly ball to left that allows Desmond to tag, score and tie it at 1-1.
3. D.C. GM Mike Rizzo with C&D: Nats' GM Mike Rizzo visited with Charlie Slowes and Dave Jageler during 106.7 the FAN in D.C.'s Sunday broadcast, and offered the following explanation for this morning's trade which saw the Nationals send outfielder Nyjer Morgan to Milwaukee for Brewers' prospect Cutter Dykstra, who Rizzo said would likely play second in the Nats' system:
Mike Rizzo: "[Brewers' GM Doug Melvin] approached me with a trade several days ago, about three or four days ago. Obviously it makes more sense now that I know that they traded [OF Chris] Dickerson for [RHP Sergio] Mitre. So he was in the market for a left-handed hitting outfielder to either back up the three outfielders that they have, [or] be the fourth outfielder for them and give them a little insurance in case [Carlos] Gomez goes down or one of their outfielders goes down.
"We evaluated what we have here on the big league level with [Rick] Ankiel really stepping up and playing extremely well and Roger Bernadina, who's a longer-term piece for us that can play left, center or right and with several of the other guys that we have in the minor leagues, we feel that we have depth at that position, and we feel that to break the logjam and to get a nice 21-year-old player into the system this was a good time to make a move for Nyjer [Morgan]."
Asked about options in center now, Rizzo said, "Bern[adina] can play center, Laynce Nix can play center, Jerry Hairston can play center, so like I said, we've got options out there."
2. Michael Morse Cannot Be Stopped: A stiff wind. A right-hander on the mound for the Marlins. Michael Morse cannot be stopped. Oppo-boppo into the wind and out of the park, Morse powers his 9th HR of the Spring out to right in the Nats' sixth. Marlins' reliever Brian Sanches surrenders the solo shot that puts the Nats up 2-1 over the Fish. Danny Espinosa hits a one-out single in the sixth, steals second, then one out later third, and scores on a wild pitch by Sanches, 3-1 Nationals, the last run all on Espinosa's aggressive play.
1. Extend Zim: With runners on first and second in the Marlins' seventh, the Nationals went with the Wheel and got what they wanted...Zim charges and fields a bunt by Marlins' shortstop Osvaldo Martinez, but drops it and falls, unable to make a play. Bases loaded against Nats' reliever Brian Broderick. Marlins' prospect Jeff Rodriguez drives one run in with a single to center, but the Marlins hold the tying run at third, not wanting to test Rick Ankiel's arm. Marlins' OFer Chris Coghlan triples to right-center in the next AB, however, driving in three and the Fish take a 5-3 lead over the Nats. Broderick chased. Doug Slaten surrenders a sac fly before he can record the final out of the frame and the Marlins go up 6-3 before the seventh ends.
That's how it ends. The Nats add a run in the ninth but drop a 6-4 decision.
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The one major thing I see in the box score is that Werth got a stolen base.
Maybe it shows the Nats are committing to his running game? I hope so, Jayson Werth’s play does not end with Home Runs and doubles. I want to see at least 15 SB’s for the next three season, and then the steals tail off once he hits age 35, especially if he’s going to be the second hitter. Or maybe that’s going to be the effect of Nyjer Morgan leaving.
"How the hell can I make my teammates better by practicing?" - Allen Iverson
Maybe a few SB's this year
but do you really want to run in from of Zimm and Harper in future years, running with your best hitters at the plate is a great way to lose.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
A guy like Werth, who knows how to run
is a guy who should have the freedom to take the extra base when he can. He shouldn’t be expected to create opportunities like a speedy leadoff guy would, but it the pitcher is making it easy, let him take advantage of it.
Slight tear of the rotator cuff for LaRoche according to Ladson...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Mar 27, 2011 6:09 PM EDT reply actions
Sooooooo, just how long will we get to see Michael Morse at 1B? Looks like he’s going to get his full season of ABs one way or the other. Can’t believe we are already getting hit by the injury Gods again though…..we have the worst luck.
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No, we're not going to be seeing Marrero for awhile
I just want to see him get off to a solid start at AAA.
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They're saying LaRoche's plans don't change and he'll be in the lineup on Opening Day...
Have to wait to hear exactly what’s going on before knowing just how bad this news is…no one seems to worried yet, but I hear “tear of rotator cuff” and I’m more worried than I was the other day when they just said he’d had an MRI…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Mar 27, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
LaRoche ain't hurt. He'll start OD, just you wait. Play 150+ games this season too.
Nice, gig, playing first – hitter’s gig.
"Are you smoking this shit so's to escape from reality? Me, I don't need this shit. I am reality. That's the way it ought to be, and that's the way it is."
- SSG Barnes
Two big mistakes: Lannan over Detwiler, and Marquis over Maya.
We will rue the day.
"Are you smoking this shit so's to escape from reality? Me, I don't need this shit. I am reality. That's the way it ought to be, and that's the way it is."
- SSG Barnes
I'd put Livo in place of Marquis there
but hopefully the Nats can get rid of both of them and get Detwieler and Maya some starts.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Livo? Heretic.
Nah, man. He’s far from finished. Liv is an innings-hog, and should garner 10 – 12 Ws this season. Besides, there ain’t a cooler dude in the NL.
"Are you smoking this shit so's to escape from reality? Me, I don't need this shit. I am reality. That's the way it ought to be, and that's the way it is."
- SSG Barnes
Livo is currenty our best starter and has earned a spot on the rotation moreso than anyone else.
I expect Zimnn to become the best starter on our team(aside from Strasburg) later in the year, and hopefully Lannan or Detwiler can step it up, but Livo deserves to be our #1.
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by Horcasitas4 on Mar 27, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, but there ain't no way that Livo is the Nats' best starter.
You can put a 5.00 ERA in the bank for him. He’s destined to return to 2008-9 form.
Rob
-- Thank you for using real words!
Marquis has been not just good, but GREAT this spring
As good as Maya has, Marquis has just been better. Marquis is in a contract year, and could both be effective for the Nats and create some return if he gets flipped at the trade deadline. I don’t get that at all.
Now Detwiler for Lannan, I’m more sympathetic towards. I want to like Lannan, and he’s actually been a decent #4 starter for most of the past three seasons – he was just miscast as a #1 because there wasn’t anyone else. But watching Lannan pitch can make your eyes bleed, as he endlessly nibbles to try to get batters to chase.
Bleed?
…make that gush – dark blood, from the arteries. Rizzo shudda’ unloaded Lannan, while he still had some value.
"Are you smoking this shit so's to escape from reality? Me, I don't need this shit. I am reality. That's the way it ought to be, and that's the way it is."
- SSG Barnes
It's ok......
For now…….Detwiller and Maya will just have to pitch there way back……..Gozanlanny stinks and I can’t beleive that both LIVo and Marquis are going to have great years…….Hey If both Detwiller and Maya are not here by May 15th that would be a good thing………Both of them start the year off 5-1 in AAA then we’ll talk…….
Starter with the Most Potential, Yes
Most potential does not equal best starter. Projections are just that -projections. In other words, guesses – some may be educated guesses, but guesses nonetheless and quite fallible. By virtually any metric you choose, saber or otherwise, Hernandez was clearly the team’s most effective starter last season (excepting Strasburg, who isn’t available at present), and he has continued to be effective in Spring Training.
I do believe that Z(nn) is likely to move into that #1 role very quickly. I certainly hope that he does. I also think it’s likely that Livo regresses, although I would caution you not to bet your mortgage money on his ERA being >5.00. But given last year’s production and Spring Training results, I have absolutely no problem with the team starting Livo on Thursday.
by d_c_guy on Mar 28, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Saying Hernandez was the best starter not named "Strasburg"
in not saying very much. At all. The Nationals’ rotation last year was with few exceptions a merry-go-round of suck.
I am saying that right now, Jordan Zimmermann is the Nationals’ best starter. That’s not a role that he’s playing; it’s a statement about his quality compared to all the other starters at this time. This assessment is purely my opinion based upon eyewitness reports, age, trends, and past performance. It does not stop at last year’s stats, in fact last year’s stats count almost not at all when assessing JZ’s ability — his late-season contribution to the team was essentially an extended rehab. And last year’s performance for Livo is discounted somewhat because (1) the overall numbers flew right in the face of his long-term trends, and (2) he benefited dramatically at the beginning of the year by extraordinary luck that will almost certainly not be repeated.
Rob
-- Thank you for using real words!
In this case I think that we're saying essentially the same thing in slightly different ways
I’m in the “show me” or “the proof is in the pudding” camp, so I’m not willing to declare Z(nn) best until the lights go on and he maintains his stuff and his cool under those conditions, that’s all. I think we share the hope that Detwiler and Maya move into the rotation, replacing two of the Livo/Lannan/Marquis troika. In a best case scenario, they replace them around June and the departed players get flipped for quality.
I will say that I hope that Livo can be in the "Miss Iowa" role
I admit largely for sentimental reasons. Not only did he throw the first pitch by a Nat, he did sign a well-below-production level contract to stay with the Nats this year. He clearly likes it here, and I can see him transferring into a Coach/talent scout type of role with the team.
I also include total innings into the equation
And JZim is going to be on an innings camp. Basically, I’m saying that I don’t think Zimmermann will lead our club in WAR, but he does lead it in stuff.
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