Washington Nationals Searching For Outfielder? Rumors Mention B.J. Upton...Again.
The Washington Nationals, having parted ways with one of their presumptive starting outfielders in Spring Training, are mentioned in rumors as being in the market for any outfielders who might be available. The Nats make the decision cut their ties to an outfielder whose stay in the nation's capital ends whether because of some behind the scenes tensions that are whispered about but never fully disclosed or because they've decided that they can't produce what the team needs from them. The D.C. Front Office opts to go with one of the other outfielders on their roster, whether it's a young and unproven talent like Roger Bernadina, a project like Michael Morse, or one of the veterans acquired to push their young outfielders to finally realize their potential. It's April...2010.
In an April 3, 2010 article entitled, "As Nats enter the season, status quo in right field", MASNSports.com's Ben Goessling wrote about the Nats' interest in acquiring a replacement for Elijah Dukes. The Nats, Mr. Goessling reports, released Dukes knowing that, "...they opened themselves up to the possibility that they would start the season without an everyday player in right field." Bernadina, Morse, Willie Harris and Willy Taveras were already in camp competing for time in right field, but the Nats, "a club source" told the reporter, had talked about possibly acquiring Corey Hart from the Brewers, Kosuke Fukudome from the Cubs, and, as Mr. Goessling wrote at the time, "...even inquired about Rays outfielder B.J. Upton, though they came away feeling Tampa Bay wouldn't part with the 24-year-old speedster unless it was out of the AL East race this summer."
The 2011 Nats' outfield drama started when the Nats signed Rick Ankiel last winter and immediately announced that he'd been brought in to compete for a starting job, pushing Nyjer Morgan in center and both Michael Morse and Roger Bernadina in left, though the two had been talked about as platoon in left since Josh Willingham had been traded to Oakland. When Morgan, in spite of a concerted effort to turn him back into the outfielder Nats fans saw before he broke his hand in 2009, was traded to the Brewers for prospect Cutter Dykstra, Ankiel was the clear favorite to win the starting spot in center, having outplayed Bernadina this Spring and earned the trust and respect of several members of the coaching staff long before he'd ever signed with Washington.
Ankiel, however, "...profiles more as a platoon player against right-handers than a regular," and the Nationals, FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal wrote yesterday in an article entitled, "Nationals: Seeking help in center," who, "...rank 14th in the NL in OPS from center field, are searching for potential upgrades, major-league sources say."
The Nats' decision-makers are, according to Mr. Rosenthal's sources, split when it comes to Bernadina and aware of Ankiel and Jerry Hairston's limitations, so, "Expect the Nats to be linked to any and all available center fielders," including B.J. Upton, though Tampa Bay, "will not entertain moving Upton unless they fall out of contention," as Mr. Rosenthal reported yesterday, and, of course, "If that happens, the Nats hardly will be the only team interested."
D.C. GM Mike Rizzo, of course, has history with the Upton family. In a recent MLB Network Radio interview, the Nats' General Manager compared 2010 no.1 overall pick Bryce Harper to '05 no.1 overall pick Justin Upton, B.J.'s young brother, who signed for $6.1M with Arizona while Rizzo was the D-Backs' Director of Scouting. It makes for a good narrative should the Nationals pursue a deal with the Rays, but until Tampa Bay's eliminated from contention in the AL East or another center fielder becomes available, the Nationals are going to have to go with what they have and live with the decision they made to part ways with Nyjer Morgan. Though there aren't too many in the nation's capital questioning the decision in spite of Morgan's hot start with the Brewers...
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B.J. Upton would be a nice upgrade obviously
mainly because he has not reached his full potential I believe despite being about a career .250 hitter which is right around Ankiel’s. He does have a career .350 OBP which is very promising with 40 stolen bases a year the past 3 years. He also has a career fielding % of .990 compared to Ankeil’s .985.
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Though I don't doubt that the Nats would be interested....
How can the Rays trade away anyone else after the dismantling they did this past winter…must be hard to take for Rays fans even if they trust the team’s ownership’s ability to reload…their draft this year is going to ridiculous however…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Apr 19, 2011 10:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not too many
There are only 6 Rays fans, so maybe they aren’t too worried…
Every shark needs a fin.
Bernadina's got a fan.
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by Sharkadina! on Apr 19, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
*shark crunches* Five.
"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane
by Jorgath on Apr 19, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Heh...shouldn't have been swimming in Shark-infested waters...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Apr 19, 2011 11:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Genius
Every shark needs a fin.
Bernadina's got a fan.
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"How can the Rays Trade away anyone else..."
That would be assuming that Upton has been a significant producer on this club…he has not. That his production supersedes his assumed talent…certainly does not. And that they don’t have people knocking on the door who may be better…Desmond Jennings.
They are in a small market and trying to save money. He hasn’t reached his potential, actually playing well….currently… And maybe they want to sell “high” before another year approaches his free agency date and they lose him without much value. He probably was most valuable a year and a half ago, and is seemingly diminishing every day he stays a Ray.
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
I’ll pass. B.J. obviously has the talent and would be an upgrade over what we have, but I’m done with the character issues and reclamation project types, which is where he’s kinda trending with his unfulfilled potential.
I need to read up on his "character issues" honestly...
I’ve got anecdotal evidence only since I don’t watch the Rays often and only have his headline grabbing problems to judge him by…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Apr 19, 2011 10:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rays won't trade BJ
I can’t see them falling out of contention, and definitely not before the trading deadline. The Nats need to look in their own organization, where they would find a Shark. Bernadina has proven he can hit Major League pitchers. Rather than waste time on AnKiel, Promote The Shark!
More info on Roger Bernadina at
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Wait... what?
Bernadina has proven he can hit Major League pitchers.
Does he beat them up in the clubhouse after the games? ‘Cause he’s always been pretty polite to them on field. A career .246/.307/.384 slash line isn’t exactly at the make-em-quake-in-their-boots level.
Rob
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It's not terrible for a CF.
It doesn’t play in a corner spot, of course.
"And everybody lived happily ever after. Except the Phillies and the Mets. The End." --Sasskuash
Friend of Dukes and Desmond #3
"Grammar police, arrest this man..."
Sorry, sorry, that’s Karma Police.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Apr 19, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
As a LHB
He hits for a higher average against LHP… Surprising but true. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=bernaro01&year=Career&t=b
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August 2010
Proven.
.287-18-4-13-6
Dealing with injury closes off year on lower note…
Every shark needs a fin.
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BTW: Gammons talked aboot Nats/Upton too...
Said on MLBNetworkRadio that they had scout in Tampa:
Mac at Capitol Baseball: http://section409.blogspot.com/2011/04/nats-scouting-bj-upton.html
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Apr 19, 2011 10:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Furthermore...
They say Bernadina can’t play center defensively…. I cry foul on that tomfoolery! Even he makes a couple errors, he gets to far more balls than Ankiel or Hairston can…
Sigh…Promote the Shark
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Bernadina's got a fan.
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Who is this shark you speak of? I'm interested and will subscribe to your newsletter...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
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by Patrick Reddington on Apr 19, 2011 10:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Shark Not Ready
Ankiel has been much better than anyone we’ve had in center in the last few years. Bernie has been very spotty defensively and offensively. Let him play in ’cuse and develop.
Good news from Kilgore: Walk-machine is fixed:
@AdamKilgoreWP: Derek Norris will come off the 7-day DL for AA Harrisburg today.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
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by Patrick Reddington on Apr 19, 2011 10:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
BJ Upton
I imagine you’d have to give up some fairly valuable prospects to snag Upton and I would hesitate to say its worth it. Historically you are also not adding a premiere player in Upton. He certainly has potential and raw talent, but he doesn’t look like he’ll ever be a leadoff hitter unless things change drastically in both his splits or his ability to get on base at a MLB clip. That makes him another CF project who we hope to leadoff, but truly doesn’t have the tools to do so.
We’d probably give up Norris, thats my guess.
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
I really don't mind giving away Norris currently..
Ramos just seems too give to not give him the starting spot and Jesus isn’t the worst backup..
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Michael Bourn
If he becomes available the Nationals need to go after him. Averaging about 55 steals the past two years, and a .350 OBP would be perfect for the lead-off spot.
Now after aquiring Bourn, fast-forward to the off-season
The Nationals sign either Fielder or Pujols creating an amazing lineup
Bourn
Espinosa
Werth
Zimmerman
Fielder/Pujols
Ramos
Morse?
Desmond
I know its dreamy...
but Pujols batting 5th?
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
I just want him protecting Zimmerman
I guess it might make more sense for Espinosa to move down behind Ramos, and then move everyone up a spot
NOOOOOO!
Please god, no. No no no. Bourn to me is a Nyjer Morgan clone.
Do not want.
Rob
-- Thank you for using real words!
What?
Bourn averages around a .350 OBP, while stealing 50+ bases a year… I don’t remember ever hearing about Bourn having any of the character issues that Morgan has shown
If by averaging a .350 OBP
you mean he has a career average .332 OBP, then I agree. The steals mean very little to me to me. He has contributed, according to Baseball Reference, about 22 runs with his baserunning, in just over 2000 plate appearances. That’s two wins from running the bases over four full seasons. Meanwhile, he’s contributed -44 runs with his bat during the same time.
Rob
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What's the Price
This all sounds like speculation and gossip. Upton maybe—if the price is not steep. Unfortunately, the price would probably be high.
I agree it's all speculation...just like it was last year when nothing came of the talks...
Just got a bit of chatter going around NatsTiwb yesterday so I figured it merited a mention…far too soon to toss names around.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Apr 19, 2011 2:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
David Price?
Nationals to trade Matt Stairs to Rays for David Price, straight up.
Source: www.tradelies.com
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