Washington Nationals' Big Decisions: Tyler Clippard, Todd Coffey, Jason Marquis and Pudge.
It's going to take more than RHP Jonathan Albaladejo. The New York Yankees, who drafted Tyler Clippard out of JW Mitchell High School in Port St. Lucie, Florida with the 274th overall pick in the 9th Round of the 2003 MLB Draft, were mentioned this weekend in Boston Globe writer Nick Cafardo's "Sunday Notes" baseball column as one of two teams (along with the Phillies) that would have interest in the right-handed reliever should the Washington Nationals, who acquired Clippard on December 4, 2007 straight-up for Albaladejo, decide to part with Clippard at the July '11 Trade Deadline.
The Nats clearly have gotten the better of the Yanks on this deal, with Clippard, (16-10) since the trade, posting a 2.79 ERA, a 1.16 WHIP, 4.2 BB/9 and 10.6 K/9 in 150 games and 200.1 IP over the last three seasons with Washington, while Albaladejo's made just 49 appearances with New York, pitching 59.1 innings in which he's put up a 4.77 ERA, 1.60 WHIP, 4.6 BB/9 and 6.4 K/9 in pinstripes. Clippard's name, according to the Boston Globe's Mr. Cafardo, is one that you'll, "...hear a lot as possible trade bait, and Washington would find a strong market for him."
FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal talked Clippard to Tampa Bay last week, writing in an article entitled, "Trade Thoughts: Rangers, Nationals", that the Nationals, if they were willing to part with, "...right-handed setup man Tyler Clippard and a young position prospect perhaps," might be able to, "...make a [B.J.] Upton deal work." The Nationals' have made no secret of their desire to acquire a center fielder/leadoff man. Mr. Rosenthal mentions' Rangers' outfielder Julio Bourbon as another alternative for the Nats to consider, the Astros' Michael Bourn's been mentioned as a target of interest, and the Boston Globe's Mr. Cafardo mentioned Boston Red Sox' prospect Josh Reddick as another possibility the Nats should consider last weekend.
FOXSports.com's Mr. Rosenthal was actually talking about Todd Coffey, not Clippard, when he discussed the Rangers' interest in the Nats' relievers. ESPN.com's Jayson Stark supported Mr. Rosenthal's claims of the Rangers' interest in Coffey as well, writing in an article this past weekend entitled, "Their 'Free Agent Meter' is running", that, "The Rangers are stepping up their hunt for a right-handed setup man," and, "One name clearly on their list: Washington's Todd Coffey."
Coffey, Clippard, Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez, Jason Marquis...the Nationals have some big decisions to make over the next six weeks. Marquis, according to MLB.com's Bill Ladson, would like to stick around if the Nats will have him. Pudge has said the same. Marquis told Mr. Ladson this past weekend, in an article entitled, "Marquis wants to stay with Nats long-term", that with the talent the Nationals have collected (he mentions Ryan Zimmerman, Jordan Zimmermann, John Lannan, Ian Desmond, Danny Espinosa, etc.), "'There are so many good guys, it would be a shame to not be a part of it. It has to be mutual on both sides. Whether it's now or at the end of the season, we'll figure something out.'"
A year ago, you would have been hard-pressed to find voices in NatsTown arguing in favor of keeping Marquis, but his return-to-form this season has not only raised his trade value, but also earned him some admirers amongst the DC Faithful who could see the veteran "extreme ground ball pitcher" fitting in at the back end of a future Stephen Strasburg, Zimmermann, Lannan/Sammy Solis, A.J. Cole-ish rotation. Will D.C. GM Mike Rizzo find the center fielder/leadoff man the Nats know they need? Will Coffey, Clippard, Pudge or Marquis be part of the deal that brings a center fielder back or are they part of the future competitive Nats?
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Keep Clippard
If they HAVE to trade someone (i don’t think they do) I suppose Coffey would be the one to trade, Clippard is a must keep.
by Grandpaallewis on Jun 13, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
it's not about having to trade something
its about getting future value for players who they will lose for nothing before they ever become contenders.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Buy low and sell high. I'd sell anything that you know isn't going to be the future.
Clip is the only player I see as a FUTURE kind of guy. Even Lannan doesn’t seem like a player for the future. I could be wrong. On the other hand I like Marquis, he can bat, field and pitch.
I say hands off Clippard and Marquis...at least for now.
I know baseball is a business but we’re just getting the pieces in place to make a run…marquis has been excellent this season and probably has 2-3 more in him if he stays healthy.
Just playing devil’s advocate…the earlier you trade him, the more you get in return. Also, if he gets hurt in the next six weeks, the Nats would be screwed.
That said, I kinda like giving up two runs spread over three games.
Yeah, the NFL Eagles have done very well on their principle that
it is better to trade a player a year too early than a year too late.
According to Baseball Reference, Clippard isn't eligible for free agency until 2016
Clippard is projectable as a part of the future, competitive Nationals. Coffey is only signed through this year, and was probably picked up by Rizzo with an eye for making him this year’s Matt Capps. Marquis was the clear #1 on the staff until JZim moved up to join him, and Marquis has continued to pitch well. Pudge is a decent backup catcher, and neither Flores nor Norris have made the case that they are ready to play at the ML level yet.
Lannan and Desmond are going to get mentioned as possible assets to trade as well. Both are also somewhat projectable as future Nats, though; both are young and under team control, no one is pushing Desmond for his job just yet and Lannan is pitching well right now.
At this point, none of these players should be traded a la Guzman (for a couple of marginal A/AA prospects). Coffey, Marquis and Pudge are clearly moveable, though, and if they could be packaged for a ML level CF/leadoff guy, that would be great. With Colon injured and Joba Chamberlain on the Tommy John train Coffey and Lannan/Marquis become more interesting for the Yankees (they don’t need Pudge at this point; they are probably the only team in MLB with more depth at C than the Nationals). They have an obvious answer to the Nationals needs in Brett Gardner. Because of Gardner’s value to the Yankees, though, I doubt that a Coffey/Lannan/Marquis package would pry Brett Gardner away from them.
I have serious reservations about trading for B.J. Upton under virtually any circumstances. His career trends are not good.
I certainly hope Desmond remains in the club's future
He’s really coming around defensively (as I thought he would even last year); and the arm is strong. I think the bat is coming around a bit lately, and I’ll go so far as to say I think he’s going to have a breakout homestand starting tomorrow, esp. if he’s batting right in front of Zimmerman regularly.
Must keeps
I would not trade Tyler under any circumstance— he is lights out. I like Jason and would only trade him if a bona fide major league center fielder lead off man was to be had straight up. I like lannan also but would be willing to bite the bullet if that is what it takes. Coffey and Ivan are trade candidates
I'm a huge Peaches fan
but I would not consider him untradeable. He’s the type of pitcher playing in the type of role where his whole world could fall apart suddenly and completely, like too many guys before him (think, for a quick example, Rafael Soriano). That is to say, while I believe he’s been one of the very best relievers in the Majors this year, I don’t believe this implies he necessarily will be in the future. If there’s an opportunity for a contributing starter or position player with more reliable projections then the Nats ought to at least consider it.
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
by RobBobS on Jun 13, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
People floating about a Clippard-for-Upton deal aren’t completely off base; if the Nationals could solve the CF/leadoff problem over the long term but would have to include Clippard as part of the deal they would have to seriously consider it. My concern is not the principle of the trade, it’s that I am concerned that Upton doesn’t solve the CF/leadoff problem.
Under any circumstance?
Wayne Gretzky was traded. Hershel Walker was traded. If they can be traded, no one is off the table – for the right price. For some players (Zimmerman, Strasburg, Harper when he’s trade eligible, etc) it’s hard to imagine what the right price would be, exactly.
But anyone can be traded, and even should be traded if the return ultimately makes the team better.
Mccutcheon
from PITT is a better player then Upton………..
DEZ
Can be kepted if he is moved to the 7 hole………This team still needs a 1 and 2 hole players whose K’s are limited…………..
As middle infielders Its a posistive to have both DEZ and ESPI be 5-6 hole players. Just don’t confuse them as top two players………
Long-term solution in CF
I’d look for a long-term solution in CF – Upton might improve with a change of scenery, but I wouldn’t go in that direction; the Rays will want more than Clippard. Bourn is already 28, and Reddick doesn’t look like a plus glove in CF, though he looks like he has a major-league bat. The Nats should ask about Che-Hsuan Lin – CF at AAA for the Red Sox. Lin is a major-league ready plus glove in CF now, who looks like he’ll be a good on-base guy for the right-handed side. It’s not a flashy solution, and it’s probably not a right-now solution, but Lin is 22, so he has a chance to be a long-term solution, beginning next year, and I don’t think the Nats would have to trade Clippard or Norris to get Lin.
Years away
Bryce Harper is an exception, Goodwin most likely will take a few years to be a major league ready CF (assuming he is capable)… And if the CF is solved with a young enough player, Goodwin could play left, which is supposedly easier to play anyways, accelerating his development and really improving outfield defense
yea, was in response to "long-term solution"
No need to trade for a 22 year old when we just drafted a 21 year old high talent 4-5 tool guy.
Werth isn’t going anywhere. Harper is obviously coming up sooner then later to RF. Werth will prob. move to Center. Goodwin will prob. end up in Left when available. No need to get another prospect when the outfield is nearly set (if Goodwin works out.) Look for cheaper trade options and look for better Vet. help in the off-season. The Sox will want too much for it to be worth it.
Werth is going to left
He’d be a below average defender in center right now, though maybe better than Ankiel, and he’s getting older.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Goodwin does look like he's going to be good
And if he’s ready to play CF in 2013 that would be a welcome bonus, and he certainly has the tools of someone who might be. I think of looking at Lin from the Red Sox because his defense in CF is very good now, and he’s getting on base consistently in the high minors. Of course if the Sox want too much then it’s a bad idea, but I suspect the price would be lower than it would be for Reddick, who addresses better Boston’s needs right now. In addition, because Lin signed in 2007, he will (if I read the rules correctly) be eligible for the rule five draft at the end of this season, and the Red Sox won’t have room for him on the forty-man roster.
Corey Brown is closer than Goodwin
And Brown isn’t exactly setting Syracuse on fire.
Julio Bourbon is 25, 35th overall pick in 07. Hits well in the minors, hasnt hit great in the majors 270 average this year. The silver lining is he was hitting .340 in his last 17 games before straining his left hamstring. Seems to be on the way out with the Rangers focusing on cuban defector Leonys Martin for the future. High upside and speed, but looking to be impatient with injury history in a bad situation with the Rangers; manager favoring Journey-man OF who is playing well. WAR= 0.2 (10’ war – 1.4)
Michael Bourn is 28; although a great defensive CF and decent Lead-off hitter, arbitration elig. Short term help, but more streaky then consistent, on a multi-game hit-streak now. WAR= 2 (09/10 WAR = 4.9 & 4.8)
BJ Upton isnt what he is sold as and would cost far too much. Both in $ and in taking a spot from a future prospect with the investment in him (Goodwin/Harper.) WAR= 0.6 (09/10 WAR = 2.3 & 3.9)
Upton and Bourn would cost too much. Neither are worth the money with their current performance and are not long-term answers to give up Clip. or anyone else they’d want.
Josh Reddick from boston, for Marquis at this point is NOT worth it for the Nats. Prospect for back of the rotation starter. This team needs veterans for all the young arms coming up in the next few years. This is who we thought we were getting, finally getting him & he wants to stay here…let him? Give him a 2-3 year deal with more incentives then guaranteed. Can always trade him later when the Nats have more options ready.
Same with Clipp. Bullpen issues and none of the mentioned CF’ers are worth giving him up, especially with teams also wanting prospects.
Coffey is this years Capps, Trade him to the Rangers for Bourbon. Young guy who isnt getting much of a chance with the manager favoring veterans and batting him in the bottom of the order most of the time. The Rangers like the 33 year old vet CF and want to call up the Cuban defector. Move coffey, get another high up-side guy and see what he can do. No trading arms the Nats need or valuable prospects after finally having a farm system.
With Flores constantly getting injured and no other options that are ready ‘right now,’ Pudge isnt really worth moving. He is doing more to help Ramos and the pitching staff improve then he is worth getting a low lvl prospect for. This is why he is valued so highly by Rizzo, they wont get that value back for Pudge at this point in his career.
Rather watch a young guy get a shot and learn from his mistakes, then watch Ankiel do the same thing over and over.
Marquis...............
I also say give Marquis a heavy incentive laden contract. Unless of course were going after Oswalt types………………
Marquis for two AA guys is worthless……………
Trade Clippard?
Trade CLIPPARD? This news is unsettling to say the least. He is the perfect set up/middle reliever and is only 26. Screw the Phillies. Why on earth would we help them out? Never!
I would trade Marquis only if we can get something great. I’d prefer to keep him and sign him to an extension, but I won’t lose sleep if we get something good out of it.
Skins rule
Conventional wisdom is, trade relievers at their peak.
Very few relievers stay very good for very long.
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers." - Earl Weaver
The man has a definite point
Relievers are fungible, and can vary wildly from year-to-year. Will he still be useful in 2012/2013, when (according to the Kool-Aid), the Nats are expected to be “very competitive”? Or is it better to use him to take advantage of a desperate contender and hopefully pull off another Capps-for-Ramos?
Having said that, it’s head vs. heart. I’ve had a soft spot for Clippard since his baptism of fire in the Yankees rotation.
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, but isn't a cucumber that small called a gherkin?"
Yeah, it is head vs heart...
Unless, of course, he continues to play at a high level. My reasoning for him to be the exception to the “relievers…vary wildly from year-year” thought is that he is very talented. My pitchers overachieve, mainly relievers, even when they aren’t very talented or their control isn’t great; I don’t believe that Clippard has that problem, he is a very talented pitcher who can even improve from his past performances.
Skins rule
Who is the long term set-up man then?
Nats have developed set-up men and closers like a factory, but I doubt they can keep this up forever. They’ll need somebody to rely on in 7th and 8th innings in 2013. If not Clippard, then who? Or leave it to fate?
by Chazz Micheal Michealzz on Jun 13, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Insert name here...
I’m being brought to Whupass’s this side of thinking, but the Nats have to get something back that matters. No more taking from the lowly Nats, as if they should be glad a bigger team paid attention. the Nats gotta start acting their age not their shoe size.(That moment brought to you by Prince)
Nats Relievers (and their fate, to prove your point)
Cordero (Flammed Out)
Stanton (Traded twice)
Majewski (Traded)
Ayala (Traded)
Rivera (Flammed Out)
Colome (Flammed Out)
Rauch (Traded)
MacDougal (1yr Rental)
Capps (Traded)
Burnett (Flammed Out?)
Coffey (Traded?)
Clippard (Traded?)
Storen (The Future?)
by Chazz Micheal Michealzz on Jun 13, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
This goes for more than relievers
but the principle is sound, especially because (as mentioned above) relievers, especially long relievers, can fall from grace rather dramatically. Other players may decline more slowly, so a team should consider the amount of contribution is possible and the likelihood of that occurrence. Some sort of a decision tree analysis I imagine.
The tough question is, of course, when is a player at his peak? Can Clipp be even better?
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
trade
espinosa is a better ss then desmond. could move espinosa to ss and use one of the 2 young 2nd baseman in the minors, lambordozzi or antonelli. could trade desmond, pudge and some older pitchers for a quality leadoff man. nyger morgan would have been fine except someone thought matt stairs and brian bixler were better. stairs could be traded to japan for a summo wrestler- even swap. nats have some great pitchers in the organization, but need hitters.
The Anthony Rendon pick definitely got the infield chatter going again...
There are a few writers who are putting Desi in the super-utility role in the future, but the way he’s playing in the field right now I don’t know. But of course as soon as his fielding picks up his hitting is a question mark.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jun 13, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Nyjer is *not* the answer
Stairs did not take his roster spot, and Bixler started the year in AAA (and should return there shortly).
2009 is the sweet siren call. Here’s some stats for Nyjer by year
Year Team Games OPS WRC+ WPA
2007 PIT 28 0.778 107 0.20
2008 PIT 58 0.695 91 0.62
2009 PIT/WAS 120 0.728 108 0.16
2010 WAS 136 0.601 73 -1.26
2011 MIL 30 0.907 142 0.30
TOTAL 0.690 95 0.02
2011 is a small sample size, and Nyjer’s still in his honeymoon period with the Brewers. He’s going to fall, and fall hard, based on past performance.
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Pinky: "Yes, but isn't a cucumber that small called a gherkin?"
Espinosa is not a better SS than Desmond
Lambordozzi is not a major league player. Nyjer Morgan is a terrible baseball player and always will be.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
i think espinosa has better baseball instincts than desmond. he hits and fields in the clutch. morgan could have started in AAA and could not have been a worse leadoff hitter than what have been used so far this year. i’ve seen zimmerman, desmond and espinosa come thru harrisburg and i think lambordozzi will be a major leaguer.
Obviously I was being a bit dramatic
Though I am fairly confident in both the first and third of my statements.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
People give Morgan too much credit
He is a streaky player, plays well then doesn’t for a long period of time. When he isn’t playing well he turns into elijah dukes and starts causing trouble. Starts acting out, begins to piss off the other team. Angry opponents = you’re guys get thrown at, needless drama between 2 clubs with angry managers. He just isn’t worth it. There is a reason everyone on the team got a chance to play center-field and guys were brought in for ‘open’ competition.
I hope the front office isn’t considering moving Desmond AT ALL, at this point. Rendon might turn out to be an insanely awesome player. He needs time to sign first, recover from injury, figure out what position he is playing long term, learn the position and learn to be a big league player. Lets wait until that happens before we go shipping off active pieces to the puzzle because we might have better options….later. Lets wait until all of those things happen and keep our developed talent for now…
How is Espinosa is better than Desmond?
Numbers aren’t dramatically different. If Espinosa has better D, then why isn’t he manning short now? Also, I’d rather have a solid middle infield, than one solid starter and Hairston Jr. (or similar) for the rest of the year and next. There’s no guarantee that Rendon will develop into the 2nd baseman of the future either. He hasn’t even played a minor league game. If/When Rendon is ready, then begin the Desmond trade talk. Or the Espinosa trade talk, or the Rendon trade talk.
by Chazz Micheal Michealzz on Jun 13, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Any comparisons of Espinosa and Desi at SS are based purely on minor league reports, and for the purpose of major league level projections have to be treated as conjecture.
Both of them are plus defenders at their current positions, and the decision will come down to offense. As Chazz points out, this is a decision to be made some time in the future when Rendon or another player forces Rizzo’s hand by playing good baseball. The fact that Espinosa is far better offensively than Desmond right now matters nothing when the decision is two years away at least.
by dc Roach on Jun 13, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is Boomer Whiting still on the DL in Syracuse? He is no longer listed on the roster and hasn’t played since being put on the DL May 10.
Why not us? Why not now?
Of course I'm for Marquis remaining a Nat...
He’s a good middle to back of the rotation pitcher, he eats innings, he can hit a little, and he contributes veteran presence.
Sounds like he’s enjoying being a National. I understand when the Rockies tried to get him back, he pretty much told them " thanks, but no thanks."
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by brook on Jun 13, 2011 5:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Trade Clip, Pudge and Lannan. Keep Marquis ...maybe Desmond
I think Clip is excellent now but I worry that he is overused and there’s a chance he will be Cordero’ed. He has super high value now…and to be honest I wonder whether its possible he can be any better. The chances are in 2 years time he will blow out his arm sving meaningless games and be no value to anyone.
Pudge is a no brainer for me – great player in his day but we’ve got surplus and should move him if there is a demand. I dont expect we’ll get much but something is better than nothing.
Lannan is one for me that should be in the mix – while I am sentimental about keeping him (he was the only decent pitcher we had for years), I think he wont be part of a pennant winning team of the future. So in that case, he’ll be in his 2nd arb year next year and I think if we got a great deal we should jump at it (especially if there is a bat involved). Hard call though and overall despite arbitration he’s not that expensive.
Marquis is a funny one- while Lannan might be best to move, I think that Marquis could be a keeper for a couple of years as we might actually get some long term value here. His 1st year was a write off but that can happen.
Desmond is the most interesting – I nearly died when someone mentioned he might just be a super utility player – if the Nats are thinking that in terms of long term, they might be best to move him now to a team that sees Desmond as a starting SS. That way at least we’ll get high value – if Rendon, etc are seen as the up and comers and better than what we have now then I would think that it’s best to get a good price for a SS than a average utlity man.
Ian Desmond is my hero!
With an eye on 2012, should the Nats trade anyone at all?
I’ve been reading all your comments, but have stayed out of the fray so far because I’ve been noodling over what kind of return I myself think is acceptable return for any one of these valuable parts of this team.
The issue is that we are discussing the trade of pieces of the team that are contributing heavily to wins right now in 2011 and in many cases are locked up to contribute to wins in 2012.
Clippard, Lannan and Desi – can the Nats afford to trade these pieces except for other quality major league players (i.e. CF/leadoff)? If the goal is to win 2012, do the Nats dare trade away a quality player who is locked up for 2012 for players who won’t play in 2012?
Marquis & Pudge – can the Nats trade 2011 wins for players who will help them win in 2012? The importance of return here is not insignificant. Losing a player like Marquis for half the season would mean losses that could make the difference between improving over 2010, which could keep free agents away and/or expensive.
All three of the young guys are under (relatively cheap) team control until 2013 or 2014. There’s no incentive to trade them away unless we get some real return: 1) major league ready talent 2) at a position of need 3) under contract for multiple years. This is not a place to gamble away the bright young pieces of our rebuilding efforts for prospects.
Trading Marquis can make plenty of sense, if you don’t see a future for him on the team. I personally would make every effort to resign him to add veteran depth both in 2012 with Strasburg’s return from the DL no sure thing (#notajinx) and in 2013 when Gorzo is a free agent. Livo’s days here are sadly soon over I predict. If the Nats are going to spend money on pitching, here is their chance. The return on a half season rental had better be good for it to be worth the short and long term gamble.
I don’t think the return for Pudge would be great enough to be worth the trouble of replacing him (Flores is not ready atm).
Overall, if the goal is improving the win-loss record in 2011 and winning in 2012, there is little value in trading any of these pieces right now. If Rizzo is still in rebuilding mode, it would be legitimate to gamble away for 2013+ prospects, but I don’t get any indication that he’s building along that route anymore. He wants a team that will win more games year over year for many years to come. He appears to be committed to showing that the years of tanking/rebuilding are behind us.
That said, trades may happen. If the Nats don’t receive major league ready talent at a position of need (starting pitching or CF) in any trade, I will be very disappointed in Rizzo.
Pudge, Coffey, Marquis and Nix are the obvious first players out the door
Because they have (varying levels of) value and they free agents after this season. But the key aspect of “trade” is that there is consideration. What are the Nats being offered in return? Even though none of these guys are going to be Type A or Type B free agents I would not recommend trading them for a bag of baseballs. Marquis and Pudge are living examples to the younger players of how to play and prepare yourself, and also they are not holding anyone’s development back at this point. There is simply no need to trade them for just anything.
+1. As John Prine would say,
“Exactimodo, Quasimodo”.
The common assumption is that if a team isn’t contending, it automatically trades off players for younger, cheaper alternatives. However, as others have said so well here, the decision to trade should depend on what the player(s) can get in return, and what trading them away means. At this point, unless it fulfills an urgent need (coughleadoffhitter/centerfieldercough), or, again, results in the 2011 version of fleecing MIN of Ramos for Capps, I can’t see an urgent need to trade anyone.
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2012
The team needs are simple………..Leadoff, 2 hole hitter, Allstar Cleanup hitter, Number one starter………..
Short of getting one of these in trade, neither DEZ, ESPI or Marquis ( if he will sign before the deadline] should be moved.
I think either Desi or Espi will mature into the 2 hole, Harper and Zimm will be the 3-4 hitters, in whatever order, for many many years to come, and the number one starter should be starting his rehab stint fairly soon. The primary need is for a CF and a more pieces for the rotation, the way you get more pieces is by trading guys for propects, Marquis has the most value, and Pudge has the least worth to the team, so you trade them first, Coffey also should be traded if possible.
Aim for the head baby Jesus

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