Wire Taps: Jim Riggleman Resigns. John McLaren On Bench, But Who's The Washington Nationals' Next Skipper?
• ESPN.com's Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN), if he had to "bet the farm" as he put it on Twitter, would, "...bet that Davey Johnson will be the next manager of the Nats." "I'd put confidence level at 85-95 percent that Davey will be summer-long manager," Mr. Olney wrote later, "Same way I felt about McKeon Sunday morning." McKeon, of course, is 80-year-old Florida skipper Jack McKeon, who replaced Edwin Rodriguez on the Marlins' bench after Rodriguez resigned his own position last week. Davey Johnson, 68, and now a Senior Advisor to D.C. GM Mike Rizzo, is the one-time Major Leaguer and manager of the Mets, Reds, Orioles and Dodgers, who last managed in Los Angeles for two seasons eleven years ago.
Johnson, who has a .564 winning percentage (1148-888) in 14 seasons as a major league manager, worked as a consultant with Washington for former D.C. GM Jim Bowden, and when he was brought on by Rizzo, the Nationals' general manager told MLB.com's Bill Ladson, in an article entitled, "Nats name Johnson senior advisor to GM", that he was doing so because, "'Davey makes me a smarter general manager. He is a deep thinker. He has done every aspect you can do in the game. Just to be around him, it makes me all that much better.'"
Davey Johnson leading the Nats through the rest of the 2011 schedule is just a rumor. What the Nationals did announce through various sources yesterday is that Riggleman's bench coach John McLaren, (who hired Riggleman as a bench coach in Seattle, was replaced by Riggleman and signed in D.C. as Riggleman's bench coach when he too was dismissed by the Mariners and hired by the Nats, eventually replacing Manny Acta), (ed. note - "Get all that?"), will be on the bench this weekend in Chicago, with an interim Manager to be named by Monday according to the Nats' GM Mike Rizzo.
Rizzo's former boss, the aforementioned Mr. Bowden (@JimBowdenESPNXM), offered up a long-ish list of potential replacements for Riggleman on the Twitter this afternoon, but later wrote that, "Rizzo wants interim manager to know the players [and] system,which is why [Davey] Johnson, [John] McLaren, [Randy] Knorr leaders..but Valentine will be a top [candidate next year]."
"Maybe that interim will be third base coach Bo Porter, who is well-regarded within the industry," FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal wrote last night in an article entitled, "Hard to defend Riggleman's Choice", "Or maybe it will be Davey Johnson, who currently is one of Rizzo's senior advisers." SI.com's Jon Heyman too (@SI_JonHeyman) wrote on the Twitter last night that, "Rizzo LOVES davey johnson, but [Johnson] may not be inclined to do it, even if asked. Better Nats interim guesses: Mclaren, Bo Porter." Four hours later, however, the tone of what Mr. Heyman was hearing must have changed as he wrote that, "Davey Johnson is in mix for Nats interim job. he loves riggleman & is sensitive to situation. but word now is, he may well do it if asked."
Wait a minute? Did Bowden say Bobby Valentine?
In an article by MLB.com's Barry Bloom entitled, "Valentine moving on after Nats' decision", after Valentine had interviewed with the Nats before the 2010 season, the former major league manager and current MLB Network analyst was quoted as stating that he'd, "...had a great interview with Mike (Rizzo) about two weeks ago and we really hit it off," but after the meeting, Mr. Valentine expressed some surprise that he, "'...never heard anything. There has been no contact or explanations. I'm pretty sure they had Jim (Riggleman) in their back pockets the whole time."
Mike Rizzo was quoted in the article as well, explaining that he thought, "'Bobby Valentine was extremely impressive... He was very [vocal] and is baseball knowledgeable. He is an extremely bright person in general. He has great baseball acumen."
McLaren, Porter, Valentine? Davey Johhnson? While the Nationals should be basking in the glow of their three-game sweep of the Mariners, they're instead trying to explain why Jim Riggleman resigned, and attempting to quickly find a replacement for the rest of the 2011 campaign. McLaren will lead the Nats tomorrow, after that? "As you can see it's taken us a little bit by surprise," Rizzo said yesterday, "We don't have immediate plans for a successor as manager. By Monday we will have an answer and we will have somebody managing the team."
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Bobby V!
No more interim managers. Unless Davey Johnson makes it clear he wants the job now, hire Bobby V before the Nats return home for the Pirates series. Assuming Bobby V doesn’t burn out too soon, he’ll command respect from the veterans and he’ll also be good for Harper when he comes up. When Bobby V inevitably combusts, then hopefully Davy Johnson will still be there to pick up the pieces and march the team to the promised land.
I kind of like Bobby V
But he’s a gamble given his ginormous ego. Still, Bobby V was a pretty good player in his own right and if nothing else he’s fun to watch argue with umpires or put a disguise on and head back to the dugout.
As a Cardinals fan living in the DC area, I can't help but look on this situation with amazement
The Nationals fire a great manager in Acta (who now is now doing a great job managing the 1st place AL central Indians). Riggleman (who’s also a DC area native) takes his place and does a great job in steering the club around. Riggleman asks for a conversation to discuss his future with the club, and the front office won’t give him the time of day. All of the work, time and experience with the club for the past few years down the drain, just like that.
If the Nationals think that they can make a successful replacement, I’m afraid they’re doomed to suffer the fate of the Redskins. If they’re smart, they’ll put out a public apology to Riggleman and at least sign him to a short-term contract.
I didn't think Acta did a good job here
but he’s certainly hit a stride in Cleveland. And while I think Rizzo was short-sighted to ignore the fact that it would be useful to give his field manager an extended contract (allowing Riggs the same luxury of stability that Rizzo himself enjoys), I strongly doubt that he’d ever publicly admit such a thing.
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
Also, I think Acta got some roster help in the move to Cleveland.
"I don't believe in luck, but it was just one of those things where it wasn't really skill, either." --Jerry, jr.
The players win games right?
The GM at the time (Bowden) didn’t have the best of product on the field when Acta was here. BUT, Acta was doing more to help the players lose (by the time he was let go,) then he was to help the club win. Acta was kind of just going through the motions. Rizzo gave the job to Riggleman and the club improved some, the players responded better and tried.
Riggleman was a decent baseball guy, but made as many bad decisions as he did good. Was ‘good enough.’ I admit i did think he was doing a decent job and liked the guy. But he shot himself in the foot here. Rizzo didn’t help aim the gun away though, in the end Riggleman made it his foot or Rizzo. There wasn’t much of an option for a club given an ultimatum by a guy under contract.
That's funny
I had this image of that old western movie where the one guy confronts the other and starts shooting at the ground, and yells “now DANCE!”. That’s what Riggs was doing, but he forgot the part about the gun being pointed towards the OTHER GUY’S feet.
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
They don't make 'em like this anymore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea1Gvs3MFDA
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
To me, what it boils down to is that the Nats were a joke a year ago, and now they are a contender
even if they brought in the best manager in the world right now, he’s going to have to re-aclimate to a new organization, all the players, the minors system, the administration. Riggleman already has put in the work on this, and has been successful! He was a part of this team when they are horrible, and has been instrumental in making them a fundamentally sound club. I don’t know, maybe I’m missing something.
by peppermartin on Jun 24, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Deep breaths, people--not quite a contender, yet.
They have to get through the rest of the NL East to “contend.” I think this year we have a good shot at “respectable”—call it a few games under .500 come October. They’ve had a good run recently, but there could just as easily be an ugly 5-10 game losing streak somewhere in the second half.
"I don't believe in luck, but it was just one of those things where it wasn't really skill, either." --Jerry, jr.
by Doghouse on Jun 24, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
A hot 18 game stretch does not equate to being a contender in a division that includes the Phillies and the Braves. I think it’s a stretch to say Riggleman was “instrumental in making them a fundamentally sound club.” Riggs was a mediocre manager, and in my eyes the Nats won more often in spite of Riggleman than because of him.
That's not too terribly tough to do.
First of all, Manny Acta was not and is not a good manager. Now that that’s out of the way, it’s not too tough to acclimate yourself to an organization given that you’ve been in and around the game. Davey Johnson already knows the organization well as a Sr. adviser and Bobby V. has at least passable knowledge given his current role as a baseball analyst and the fact he interviewed for a job with them a year or so ago.
I can't stand Valentine (he will be considered a joke by the players),
and Johnson’s time has passed him by. I strongly doubt that Porter is ready to manage big league ball, and McLaren strikes me as Riggleman without the thoughtfulness.
This will not end well.
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
What do you think about Knorr?
"I don't believe in luck, but it was just one of those things where it wasn't really skill, either." --Jerry, jr.
He's still pretty young, isn't he?
I would figure he’d need some time as a big league bench coach. Or maybe he wouldn’t NEED it per se, but it seems to be the way things are done. I can’t say anything about his management style.
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
Johnson’s time has passed him by
Don’t understand this one…
06 US WBC team to 5th place
08 US Olympic team to Bronze
09 US WBC team to 4th place
Are these good numbers?
Shouldn’t the US dominate international competition?
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
Not really
When the vast majority of MLB players are made up of Central Americans and the Japanese have their own very good professional league in it’s own right. Frankly, no. Sorry, this isn’t a venue of “American exceptionalism” anymore.
Roster filler?
Kemp, Gonzalez, McCutcheon, Braun, Youkilis, Span, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Fielder, ARod. That’s ten of the top thirteen MLB players (in terms of WAR) this year. And they’re all US-born.
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
And how many of them were on the WBC teams? Christ, Joel Hanrahan made a WBC squad.
In 06, 5 of the top 10 WAR players were non-US. Of the 5 US in the top 10, only 2 played in the WBC. In 09, 3 of the top 10 WAR players were non-US. Of the 7 US in the top 10, again only 2 played. And one was an injury replacement.
8 of the top 15 active players in WAR are non-US. Since 2008 (post-roids) 5 of the top 9 WAR players are non-US.
Do all the best U.S. players even offer to play on the WBC squad?
I think Joel H. is a telling example that US-born players don’t take the WBC that seriously, and that most US players are more focused on keeping themselves healthy and prepared for their real jobs. Dunn as WBC 1B?
"I don't believe in luck, but it was just one of those things where it wasn't really skill, either." --Jerry, jr.
I know at least some of the US born players actually play for other countries in the WBC
Because of liberal “citizenship” rules for the competition.
Go ahead and look
at the US pitching for 06 and 09. Tell me if you think either one of them would beat D.R. or Japan. The 08 US team had essentially no expectations and greatly overperformed as I recall.
Why the animus toward Valentine?
Too much of a showman for you? Why do you think the players will look at him as a joke? That wasn’t his reputation with the Mets.
Choosing the future manager of this team will be HUGE for Rizzo. He better make it a good one. Expectations are way higher than when Bowden picked Acta.
I really hate the business of baseball interfering with the games.........
But hearing that Riggleman doesn’t communicate, Rizzo doesn’t communicate, and had to “put out fires” about the time of Werth’s complaints………and the lukewarm comments from the players……normal office stuff blown out of proportion or cracks in happy Natstown?
It just makes me sick….
The pitcher batting aeyth is geenyus!!!...
by cat daddy3000 on Jun 24, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Rizzo going on 106.7 the FAN in D.C...
Next five minutes or so…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jun 24, 2011 10:19 AM EDT reply actions
Rizzo's still on my s_list.
Do I really want to listen…?
Oh, and by the way,
Promote Harper!
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
Brilliant Rizzo quote as I tuned in:
“We’re gonna move on with a bullet, and with a vengeance…”
Apparently we’re going to get the next sequel to Die Hard this year instead of playoff contention. Still, that ought to make the Prez Race more interesting…
"I don't believe in luck, but it was just one of those things where it wasn't really skill, either." --Jerry, jr.
I was wondering that myself, then saw it's DH time in the interleague circus, so McLaren doesn't have to make a choice....
The pitcher batting aeyth is geenyus!!!...
by cat daddy3000 on Jun 24, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The answer is no...
Pitcher batting ninth tonight…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jun 24, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
10?
The pitcher batting aeyth is geenyus!!!...
by cat daddy3000 on Jun 24, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
th…
The pitcher batting aeyth is geenyus!!!...
by cat daddy3000 on Jun 24, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
why would there be 10 people....
OK, yeah, i totally forgot…
Stupid AL…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jun 24, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking all interleague would have the DL and we'd already know about Stairs by now....
wasn’t counting the home series….
The pitcher batting aeyth is geenyus!!!...
by cat daddy3000 on Jun 24, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
He did say to the junkies on 106.7 this morning " I got to give the girls a chance to see me"
At least he knows how to have fun.
he'll have a lot of time for the ladies now...
by Dan Shields on Jun 24, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I have names that will never happen but be very cool if they did.
Cal or Pudge as manager would set the city on fire.
Not to mention '04 and '00 elections!
Plus his admirable work as bench coach VP and minor league hitting coordinator secretary of the Navy.
"I don't believe in luck, but it was just one of those things where it wasn't really skill, either." --Jerry, jr.
Pudge as manager?
Why would that set the city on fire? He’s a respected long-time catcher and a sure Hall of Fame player. I don’t see how this generates much enthusiasm as a manager. Cal might pique interest for a while, but not for long, and certainly not if the team fares poorly.
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
All due respect to Cal, but I don't see a need to O-ify the Nats beyond MASN.
"I don't believe in luck, but it was just one of those things where it wasn't really skill, either." --Jerry, jr.
Ray Knight?
I think he’s a possibility. It’d be a head-scratcher, sure – as were Sparky Anderson and Casey Stengal.
Johnson is worn-out and Valentine is insufferable. It’s a great job, and any number of highly-qualified men will jump at it. I look for Rizzo to surprise us with this selection. It’s his most important personnel move yet.
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers." - Earl Weaver
Tim Raines would be an interesting coach
I always enjoyed his aggressive on base habits and would certainly be an excellent mentor to the shark in the leadoff spot. what better way to develop our big weakness?
I would like to steal another Tim.....Tim Wallach, back from the Dodgers...
The pitcher batting aeyth is geenyus!!!...
by cat daddy3000 on Jun 24, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi Patrick, one correction to make...
Johnson, who has a .564 winning percentage (1148-88)
1148-??
just wondering what ?? should actually be, curious to see the real record :)
Thx
Forgot an 8, 1148-888....
Thanks.
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jun 24, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
until he wears out his welcome
his history is he eventually get into conflict with the owners (at least in NY, BAL, and CIN; don’t recall about LA). Even so, he always did an excellent job with the teams he had. The question is, can he still do so after so long away, and does he want to?
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, but isn't a cucumber that small called a gherkin?"

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