Nats/Phillies: Looking to the Future
From the outside looking in, the Washington Nationals and Philadelphia Phillies seem like polar opposites. The Phils are Major League Baseball's elite squad, while the Nats continue to hover under the .500 mark. A more discerning look however, reveals two teams that are built for success...the Nats just happen to be a few seasons behind. The Tampa Bay Rays of 2008 laid the road map for all underachieving franchises to follow. The Nats may soon be the "Rays of 20- -" and they may be a lot farther along than the casual fan realizes.
Find out why after the jump.
The Philadelphia Phillies roster reads like a transcript of the first round of a fantasy baseball draft. The Phils boast multiple MVP candidates in Howard, Utley, and Rollins to go along with four legitimate #1/2 starters. Much has been written about the "Four Aces" so we won't go into more detail than is necessary. The Phillies' bullpen, which on paper looks shaky, has actually been a strength this year. Antonio Bastardo and Ryan Madson have shared closing duties, while lesser-known relievers have been steady. So why the Philadelphia love-fest? While the 2011 edition of the Nationals can't compare to their counterparts up I-95, Nats fans should be optimistic that their team could look a lot like the Phils in the not-so-distant future. Let's discuss a few reasons:
1. Homegrown Talent: Behind any good run of success lies a core of home-grown players that rise through the system and learn how to win as a team (see the late 90's Yankees and even the current Phillies teams). In recent years, GM's have become much more savvy about holding onto young talent. As a result, free agent classes have become much thinner since the 90's. The availability of high-end talent is limited to one or two stars per year. Building a contender in today's market requires a solid foundation. The Phillies have Utley, Rollins, and Howard. The Nats could have a core of Espinosa, Zimmerman, Ramos, and Harper as soon as 2012. Will they end up being as formidable as other marquis groups? Only time will tell, but so far so good.
2. Depth in the Rotation: Just to be clear, a rotation as daunting as Halladay, Lee, Oswalt, and Hamels may never be seen again in baseball. The real question is, could the Nats have a deep enough rotation to carry them to the playoffs? Assuming Stephen Strasburg can come back to his pre-Tommy John form, the answer needs to be yes. In fact, as soon as 2012 the Nats could boast a top four of Strasburg, Zimmermann, Lannan, and Peacock. With a few years of seasoning, and maybe even a free agent thrown in, the Nats could have a top of the line rotation. The amount of teams in baseball that currently have that kind of pitching depth can be counted on one hand (go ahead...try it).
3. Dominant Bullpen: In case you haven't been paying attention, the Washington Nationals have a killer bullpen. In fact, in a battle of the bullpens, I would argue the Nats outclass the Phils. Of course, the Nats will need to hold onto key pieces like Storen, Clippard, and Rodriguez (MPH-Rod) for years to come if they are to compete in the future. The bullpen managed to stay together past this year's trade deadline, a good sign that the front office sees the potential in this current 'pen. Nats fans should have hope that ownership is committed to maintaining this team's biggest strength.
So are the Nationals destined to be the Phillies in the next few years? A lot has to go right to build a perennial contender. Foremost, the Nats need to fix their lack of power, average, and overall impotent offense. Prince Fielder would provide some instant pop, but landing a big-time free agent can be a huge gamble (see Werth, Jayson). The boys from DC will also need to stick together long enough to develop into a true contender. Only time will tell if ownership exercises patience, and guys like Ryan Zimmerman choose to stick around for the long haul. Does a lot have to go right? Sure. But for the first time in what seems like forever, there is hope that DC fans might have a perennial contender waiting in the wings.
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You lost me on the HRod piece
I don’t trust him to ever become a stable, reliable arm. He’s going to be great sometimes, and terrible other times. He’s like Forrest Gump’s proverbial box of chocolates.
Otherwise, good stuff!
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
Forrest Gump?
The famous American from Greenbow, Alabama? Nice. lol
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The bullpen needs fleshing out, still--maybe Henry is a piece, but he's not consistent enough, yet.
In my opinion, the team will need a one more big FA pitcher to compete in the NL East, and I think making a play for Zack Greinke after his contract is up in 2012 is a good way to do it. 2012 will be a shot at .500+, maybe flirting with the WC at times (although I don’t expect serious playoff contention next year). We know ZG wants to win, and the team may show him enough to bring him to DC for 2013+ (along with the Lerner’s dumptruck full of cash, of course). Salt with additional FA 1B and/or CF to taste (or cross your fingers for Komatsu and Marerro).
"I don't believe in luck, but it was just one of those things where it wasn't really skill, either." --Jerry, jr.
I can see them going after a CF, SP, and a veteran reliever all this offseason
There isn’t much to look at on the free agent market for a CF so that’ll probably come via trade. Now that Jennings is up in Tampa and actually having success, Tampa will probably be more inclined to trade Upton after the season. And although I’d rather have a guy like Span, I can see Rizzo jumping on the Upton opportunity just because he’ll be more available then than he was at the deadline.
I doubt that Sabathia will become a free agent this offseason, and there’s a pretty big dropoff when it comes to the other arms out there. But I have a feeling they’ll want another go-to veteran to eat up innings next year so the younger arms don’t get overworked. If they wait til 2013 to get this guy, that might be too much for expect out of the younger arms to carry the team for a whole season. I’ve always liked CJ Wilson and I think he’d be a great fit in our rotation.
And if you look at the bullpen, they actually are pretty young altogether. Most teams have a few of those guys in their mid 30’s who act as some sort of mentor out there. Our closer is barely 24, our shutdown guy is 26. And there’s really no one else that we can totally trust late in the game. H-Rod does show flashes, and he’s still young so I’m sure we’ll stick with him for awhile. But I feel like the pen is lacking that one veteran presence. Hey it might just be Todd Coffey
Whats the frequency, Kenneth?
i still haven't bought into lannan
i like it when he succeeds but maybe i just need the safety blanket of some stat that irrefutably says he’s good at baseball. at the same time i know that such a stat doesnt (yet) exist and I should just accept that he may be a long term answer. as far as h-rod, he reminds me of the negativity (rightly placed) on hannrahan as a nat. my guess is that rodriguez has 2 years as a dominant reliever in him but don’t know when or if it will be as a national
You lost me when you didn't include Morse.
Honestly, I’m really starting to think that he’s our 1B for a long-term. I’d rather have him than any 1B but Pujols and Fielder (well, AdGonz, but he’s not available) and I’d rather save our money for a fifth starter.
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Why Morse over Fielder?
Fielder’s more productive, and he’s a lot younger.
Rob
-- In baseball we trust.
It would be great to bring in Fielder
I don’t think moving Morse to left means the end of the world. They’re probably going to do it for the first half next year anyway to get LaRoche back in the lineup, and then proabably flip when he shows he’s healthy. But I’m sure they’d also be willing to deal LaRoche even earlier next year for nearly nothing if they get the opportunity to land Prince. A 3-4-5 of Zim, Fielder, Morse? They have to be thinking about that.
Whats the frequency, Kenneth?
Not too bad
1. Ramos, Espinosa, Zimmerman.. Add in Norris, Rendon, Goodwin, Harper and you have a pretty solid offensive core
2. Strasburg, Zimmermann, Cole, Meyer, Purke all have top of the rotation potential, add in Peacock, Solis, Ray, Milone and you start getting some solid depth in the rotation.
3. The Nationals bullpen is far from dominant.. Storen, Clippard, and Mattheus(iffy) are the reliable arms in the Nationals pen.. Still missing a lefty specialist, long reliever, and another reliever to pitch crap innings

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