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Washington Nationals/Philadelphia Phillies Sunday Finale Postponed.

PHILADELPHIA , PA - JUNE 11:  Members of the Philadelphia Phillies set in their dugout during a rain delay against the Chicago Cubs at Citizens Bank Park on June 11, 2011 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The game was stopped prior to the first pitch being thrown.  (Photo by Len Redkoles/Getty Images)

The Washington Nationals have (had) a chance in Sunday's series finale with the Phillies to win the first road series in Citizens Bank since 2008 when they took two of three from their NL East rivals after winning the season-opener against Atlanta on Ryan Zimmerman's walk-off HR. In order to win the rubber match, however, Washington will (would have) need(ed) another strong start from Chien-Ming Wang, who earned his first major league win since '09 last time out, and they'll have (would have had to) find a way to beat Roy Halladay for the first time this season. 

In three starts and 23.0 IP against the Nationals this season, in which he's struck out 24 (9.39 K/9), Halladay's (3-0) with a 3.13 ERA, 22 hits, eight runs and two walks (0.78 BB/9) allowed. Washington did, however, hit a third of the HR's Halladay's allowed this season off him in his last start against the Nats, in which he gave up HR's to Laynce Nix, Michael Morse and Danny Espinosa in a 5-4 Phillies' win. 

Halladay was even more dominant against the Nats in 2010 when he allowed just one earned run in three starts and 23.0 IP against the nation's capital's favorite team. Halladay was (3-0) with a 0.39 ERA last year against D.C. and you actually have to go back to 2002 to find the last time this franchise was able to beat the former Toronto Blue Jays' ace on a game-winning HR by then Expos' third baseman Fernando Tatis...

You'll have to wait til September 20th to see if Washington can win the rubber match with Philadelphia. Today's game is rained out and rescheduled for 9/20 as part of a day/night doubleheader...

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RyanTatusko: I thought I’ve seen it all on a field, but watching Bernadina go from 2nd to home on a wild pitch strike 3 was crazy!! That man flys!

by dc Roach on Aug 14, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

And a tear slowly slides down my cheek...

I miss The Shark…and hope they bring him back soon. And i know that simply sitting on the bench won’t do him as much good as playing every day in Syracuse, but, but…he’s so jawsome!

"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011

by MissB on Aug 14, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Need for speed (i.e. also miss Shark)

Call me grumpy, but I believe the “S” in SPAD has been downplayed on this team since, say…endo’June?. In addition, Shark was hitting for a higher average when he left than Werth, Espi, Desi – (others? Refuse to look it up! Too grumpy)

by FreddieBallgame on Aug 14, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He probably did

Average only goes so far though

Whats the frequency, Kenneth?

by ZimforPrez on Aug 14, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

.247/.312/.352

tied for 5th in AVG (behind Morse, Zim, Hairston, Nix)
7th in OBP
10th in SLG

these are season to date numbers, not season to demotion numbers.

by dc Roach on Aug 14, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, like Moarse just a placeholder: "Put that bat on LFplatoon asap". Anyhoo, was trying to raise the speed issue in larger context...

Not just Sharklessness but overall change in the emphasis put on speed (notwithstanding Bo’s excellent sends on nonarm in LF saturday). Agree that DJ does not like the speed game? Or smallball in general? It works well enough to have won some 1 run games for us NatzFanz. Has anyone asked Riz if he is changing type of players he’s looking for?

by FreddieBallgame on Aug 14, 2011 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm thinking they want Bernadina playing every day, and they can't do that with the guys they got...

too many lefties……. it is difficult when things don’t mesh, and managerial style seems to be one of them.

"Lombo can wait 'til September" -by Doghouse on Aug 2, 2011

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 14, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's hating the speed game

Historically, Davey’s adapted his approach depending upon the personnel available. I think he’s much less a fan of smallball/bunt ‘em over than was Riggleman. I agree with cat daddy3000 below — too many LH OF, and Bernie was the one who could be sent down without risking waivers. Unfortunate, and unlikely to improve next year unless the Nats sign/trade for a RH OF. (And I *don’t* think Morse should be the 2012 LF. He belongs at 1B, with LaRoche on the bench as LH PH/trade bait.)

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, but isn't a cucumber that small called a gherkin?"

by jbg2772 on Aug 14, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morse 2012 at 1st - hope voters on this site have it right

And all those MA(ngelo)SN talking heads have it wrong – they seem unanimous with LaRoche at 1st and Mode in LF.
  Understood Shark had options and was sent down to get Wang on board, surprised he is still there and Gomes batting v. righties, also know Bix here b/c losing Hairston meant Bix more valuable for IF/OF versatilty, and acknowledge Ank batting better since he came off DL, does ok covering CF and has a cannon, plus DJ wants extra bullpen. All that said- Doesn’t mean I have to LIKE it!!
 Back to speed/SB – seems like all speedy dudes’ SB #s are pretty much frozen as of ASG. Due to lack of baserunners?Or all SB now called from bench as opposed to holds called from bench? [Ignores bad memory of glover"yerout"X2, altho both looked called b/c no agressive leads]
  —- carrying on in spite of no Natz baseball sun/mon (and Sawx losing again to seattle)

by FreddieBallgame on Aug 14, 2011 6:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Regarding Morse/LaRoche

What would you do with LaRoche then? Just pretend he’s not even there? I know its easy to forget about him since we haven’t even seen him healthy yet. But Morse actually possesses the ability to play left while LaRoche doesn’t. At least for a half a year, it will probably be Morse in left and LaRoche at first.

Whats the frequency, Kenneth?

by ZimforPrez on Aug 14, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes I think that is what will happen, understand LaR's contract blah blah and know he plays good D

Sure hope laRoche hits and reverses his usual slow spring start, maybe he could then get traded to a contendah! (Guess Morse plays adequate LF- for sure he would have to be in lineup for his bat)
 Meanwhile BEAT THE REDS

by FreddieBallgame on Aug 14, 2011 8:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If I'm Mgr, I say 1B belongs to Moarse until somebody takes it from him

What to do about ALR? That’s the GM’s problem – I got ball-games to win.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 14, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rizzo's said several times when asked that he expects LaRoche back at first...

Not sure he’d say anything else even if he thought it, but publically at least he’s the one MASN’s quoting when they say Morse to left when LaRoche returns.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Aug 14, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ax me, at times Rizz gets too tangled up in day to day ops

He could have foreseen that Mike Moarse (aka, MLB’s Biggest Bargain) would be our 1B this season – hell, I saw it and hollered it all last winter, and I am but a mere peon of a fan. I expect that I am not alone, however – but Rizzo did not see things shaping up that way.

Perhaps he was too sensitive to the “re-sign Adam Dunn” movement, and felt that, with Dunn gone, he had to atone – he HAD to sign an immediate big name/big salary guy at 1B, whether that equated to big talent or not. Damn the strike-outs, full-speed ahead.

Comes down to this: for all his baseball acumen, I believe that Rizzo overlooked Mike Moarse. Hard to admit a mistake like that – particularly when you’re looking at ALR’s salary.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 14, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heres some sacrilege for you

Morse’s value is higher than it will ever be.
Trade him for a lead off hitting CF
Move Zimmerman to first and Rendon plays third.

by PerryMason on Aug 15, 2011 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

When a guy is the best at his position in baseball, one of the best in recent memory

you do not move him to an easier position.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Aug 15, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Um, not so fast

(1) Rendon is not yet signed
(2) Rendon is not jumping right to the majors (or making the team in 2012)
(3) Rendon is not yet signed
(4) Zimmerman’s a premier defender at 3B
Finally,
(5) RENDON’S NOT YET SIGNED!

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, but isn't a cucumber that small called a gherkin?"

by jbg2772 on Aug 15, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I assume that at around 11:59:53 tonight

(approximately), when Rendon finally is signed, three of these objections go away?

Oh, and as a slight modification to #4, Ryan Zimmerman is a top-line third baseman; he would merely be a “pretty good” first baseman.

Rob

-- In baseball we trust.

by RobBobS on Aug 15, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping you're correct on 3 of the objections

I’m just tired of people assuming that, once the Nats drafted Rendon, he was signed, sealed, delivered, and in the starting lineup tomorrow.
My guess is that Zimmerman would be about middle-of-the-pack offensively as a 1B, but that’s an off-the-cuff statement.

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, but isn't a cucumber that small called a gherkin?"

by jbg2772 on Aug 15, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope I'm right about Rendon, too.

But I am optimistic, which is not an emotional state I’m used to when it comes to Nationals baseball..

Rob

-- In baseball we trust.

by RobBobS on Aug 15, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guilty of sacrilege

To the stake widhizass!

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 15, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

As Thomas Moore said

“See me safe up: for in my coming down, I can shift for myself”. Of course he wasn’t going to the stake, he was going to the chopping block.

by PerryMason on Aug 15, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

i was about to call verizon and start bitching… good thing i checked on here!

bring back darvin ham

by jeffbenson on Aug 14, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Me too. I had my tin foil hat on and was ready to complain about the Nats broadcast being hijacked by Peter Angelos.

Rocky: I see three of him out there!
Paulie: Hit the one in the middle.

by Jeff T on Aug 14, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

ANGELOS!! Heh...

Glad I could save some unsuspecting Verizon phone worker from a verbal attack, Jeff.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Aug 14, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you didn't read, Kilgore updated on Purke today at Nationals Journal...

Nationals General Manager Mike Rizzo was in Houston negotiating with Matt Purke

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Aug 14, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

countdown until tomorrow night's midnight deadline...

I guess Rizzo will work on the others today and tomorrow…

"Lombo can wait 'til September" -by Doghouse on Aug 2, 2011

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 14, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He looks like Clippard with a boy band beard.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents. As are we all."
---Malachi Constant

by The Herndon Kid on Aug 14, 2011 2:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

heh........"boy band beard".........I was thinking Clip and the Phish guitar player...

and the cap isn’t jaunty…….it’s ker-azy!!!

"Lombo can wait 'til September" -by Doghouse on Aug 2, 2011

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 14, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He can look like a Gila Monster as long as he can pitch

"I'm going to run. You can't stop me. I'm going to run even if I don't get a single vote!." Willie Stark, All The King's Men

by kingfishfarms on Aug 14, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

72 hours without baseball......day off tomorrow, too?

Mark Z.: “Manager Davey Johnson said he will push everyone in his rotation back, which means Chien-Ming Wang will now start Tuesday against the Reds on two extra days’ rest.”

  I thought extra days’ rest was determined to be bad for Wang, as well as skipping Zimm’s next start if they try that….

"Lombo can wait 'til September" -by Doghouse on Aug 2, 2011

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 14, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

They actually said the extra day off would be a good thing and it was for Wang...

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Aug 14, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure someone analyzed Zimm's stats on extra rest and they were not good...

and I thought Wang had some mention of regular work being better for him…

"Lombo can wait 'til September" -by Doghouse on Aug 2, 2011

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 14, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Johnson said he thought the extra days off hurt Zimmermann...

This is the comment I was referring to on Wang before he earned his first curly-W

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Aug 14, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

More reasonable minds would suggest skipping ZNN's turn to push him

closer to Sept so that Strasburg can easily slot into his spot when Baseball Jesus returns. And after pitching 107 pitches in his last outing, ZNN probably needs the extra time off.

I don’t believe anything DJ says about anybody at this point.

"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011

by MissB on Aug 14, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay, as long as Davey doesn't believe extra rest is just generically good....

I didn’t know he thought that of Zimm…..makes me feel better…

"Lombo can wait 'til September" -by Doghouse on Aug 2, 2011

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 14, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Davey : "And he doesn't seem to me like it's bothering him at all..."... JOHNSON!!!

Mark Z.: post All-Star break…. “Espinosa has since hit a paltry .174 with one homer, three RBI and a .510 OPS that has all but killed his chances of winning a postseason award.
  Espinosa’s defense has also slipped some, resulting in errors both Friday and Saturday night.
   He’s yet to sit out one game all season…”

Johnson said earlier in the week. “I just love watching him play. And he doesn’t seem to me like it’s bothering him at all….So I don’t have any immediate plans to rest him.”

"Lombo can wait 'til September" -by Doghouse on Aug 2, 2011

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 14, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Un.be.liev.able........'scuse me..........un...fracking...believable!

 So…Davey won’t sit Danny because DAVEY LOVES WATCHING HIM PLAY…?!

Another piece of the future?…in his rookie year?…who’s obviously struggling and needs to sit out a few? Yet DJ LOVES watching him play…so no sitting allowed?
My outrage meter keeps pegging out and will be broken soon at this rate.

And if you think I’m being overly protective of Spinner, here are his own words from the same Zuckerman article:

Sitting in front of his locker Sunday as the Nationals prepared to head home a few hours earlier than originally planned, Espinosa declined to be interviewed.

“Sorry,” he said. “I just kind of need a mental day off, you know?”

"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011

by MissB on Aug 14, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to send you Davey's home phone number

"I'm going to run. You can't stop me. I'm going to run even if I don't get a single vote!." Willie Stark, All The King's Men

by kingfishfarms on Aug 14, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

DJ keeps acting like the team’s headed to the post-season and misusing players…especially young pieces of the future
(and for the record, I don’t like to call them that because they’re human beings…but it’s less tortured to write).

And then the next day, he’ll do just the opposite.
No wonder the team in struggling across the board since he arrived. They have no clue what to expect or how to operate.

"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011

by MissB on Aug 14, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, the team wasn't that great before Davey arrived

Riggleman just timed his exit well. Prior to the 11-1 run that Riggleman rode out the door, the team was 27-36 (.429). Their record since Riggleman left? 19-25 (.432). No wonder Riggleman decided that was the time to go! It’s certainly giving him a following and a fandom that he didn’t have for the rest of his managing career (not you, MissB – I know you liked him :-).

I wasn’t one of the Riggleman bashers on this page, and I don’t think that Davey deserves the bashing that he gets either. There may be a lot of reasons that he does the things that he does that we just don’t know about. He may be testing players to see how they will respond, he may have limited options due to injuries, illness, or some other factors that we don’t know about.

by d_c_guy on Aug 14, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's awfully convenient for you to 'forget' the 11-1 run

makes him look bad, compared to Davey. But, uh, … when’s Davey’s team going to go on a 11-1 run? And, oh, by the way, Davey has had the luxury of playing Zimmerman on a daily basis.

Rob

-- In baseball we trust.

by RobBobS on Aug 15, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, it doesn't make Riggleman look bad

It makes him look about the same as Davey (.429 vs .432). When is Davey’s team going to go on an 11-1 run? Beats me. Did you see the earlier 11-1 run coming? Davey has the luxury of playing Zimmerman on a daily basis, Riggleman got unexpectedly good innings from Marquis and Livo (who until his start against the Phillies had been pretty awful after the ASB). Riggleman had to live with Truly Awful Werth (as opposed to Merely Mediocre Werth of late), but Davey has to live with the slumping Espinosa instead of ROY Espinosa.

You miss my point(s).

My initial point was that the manager makes very little impact; the team is what it is, and that is just south of mediocre (an improvement form truly awful in the recent past). My secondary point was that I think that it’s easy to take decisions in isolation and criticize them without having the knowledge base that a manager in a dugout has. It’s this phenomenon that has led me to the conclusion that the 30 dumbest people in the world at any one time are the 30 MLB managers, because everyone on the internet is convinced that s/he could do a better job. The tertiary point was that Riggleman did time his exit very well, because that two week run left a much better taste than the previous two years did.

by d_c_guy on Aug 15, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

And my one and only point

was concerning your less-than-genuine (IMHO) use of statistics. I get your arguments, and they are generally valid, but your use of questionable statistics to demonstrate them just gives folks like Whupass ammunition when he claims that people attempt to use stats to prove anything they want.

Rob

-- In baseball we trust.

by RobBobS on Aug 15, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

[tips cap]

All other considerations being equal, seems to me there are three obvious qualities to being a successful manager, and one that’s not so obvious. If a man has baseball smarts, the respect of his players, and keeps a good relationship with the media, he should be successful.

But most managers are not successful. What separates the few from the many is the part the public rarely sees: their backing from the front office.

DJ has forgotten more about baseball than Jim Riggleman ever knew (though at times it seems the problem is precisely that he has forgotten it), and the players hold DJ in much higher regard (hard to respect a guy who begins every team meeting by reviewing his own contract status). Slight edge to DJ with the media, and as for front-office backing, it’s no contest.

Verdict: given about the same team of sled-dogs, DJ really should produce better results – but if he don’t, it’ll be a short effin’ honeymoon.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 15, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus when it’s hot in the kitchen Davey Johnson’s not afraid of the heat.
He’ll take it off his players when necessary and he’ll also apply it as necessary. Not to mention he’ll have’m rollin in the aisles on occasion which is a breath fresh air after the (not so) Pep Boys, Frank, Manny, and Jim.

by PerryMason on Aug 15, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, style matters - and no matter what, DJ does not whine.

I just wish he was adroit with the hook – which he ain’t, and that’s a killer at times.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 15, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really view what I did as cherry-picking of stats so much

As pointing out that the anomoly in the Nats record all season has been the 12 game run up to Riggleman’s resignation, with the corollary that Riggleman timed his exit well. I don’t view that as making a statistical argument, except perhaps on my third point, to the extent of insinuating that the 11-1 run was a misleading non-representative sample that has made Riggleman’s memory more cherished around some parts than his overall record justifies.

I didn’t make a statistical argument at all on the other two points. Onmanagers having little impact on the success of a team, that observation is hardly original, and if I wanted to make a statistical argument there are certainly better ones to be made. On individual game decisions and the reasons behind them, a statistical analysis of such things would be well nigh impossible (too many variables).

by d_c_guy on Aug 15, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think DJ's using Espy hard - hell, that boy never wants a day off from playing ball

He just didn’t feel like being interviewed, is all. Day off from the media hounds is what I believe he meant, but he’s too polite to come out and say it. Anyway, that’s my slant.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 14, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Espi needs a day off.

Fortunately, he got one.

Rob

-- In baseball we trust.

by RobBobS on Aug 15, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, thanks to Mother Nature....

and NOW DJ sez everybody needs a day off:
(copied from above) “‘This time of year, it’s useful because everybody could use a couple days off,’ said Nationals manager Davey Johnson.” – “Rain postpones Nationals-Phillies game” – Amanda Comak, Washington Times

ACK!

(and you guys, knew that wasn’t going to escape me, right?)

"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011

by MissB on Aug 15, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought you might have a position on this issue.......

the “mental day off” answered what I needed to know…….I guess there’s no happy medium between grinding them to dust or rotating all the bench guys in to “keep them fresh.”…..

"Lombo can wait 'til September" -by Doghouse on Aug 2, 2011

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 14, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, remember how we used to give Riggleman grief on this page for starting his bench guys?

Leading to those unsightly lineups with four or five guys hitting below the Mendoza Line? Man, I’m glad THOSE days are over …

by d_c_guy on Aug 14, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

and if anyone did well, they got a day off as a reward to break up the momentum...

it’s just seemed long overdue for Espinosa to practice his railbird pose for a game or two…

"Lombo can wait 'til September" -by Doghouse on Aug 2, 2011

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 14, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is a happy medium between grinding the youngsters to dust and

using ALL the Mendoza Boyz in the same game.
And, yeah, things could get ugly without Spinner in the lineup, but he still needs railbird practice. Who knows? Maybe Cora could go on a tear! ;-)

Unfortunately, the bench is really short and limited…partly because DJ kept yammering about needing more “long men” in the bullpen.

"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011

by MissB on Aug 14, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, a happy medium seems so reasonable...

the only good thing I see here is Davey doesn’t schedule days off…even if a guy was on a tear, Riggler sat ’em when their day came up…

"Lombo can wait 'til September" -by Doghouse on Aug 2, 2011

by cat daddy3000 on Aug 14, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

These guys don't want to sit. They hate it. Even when they're hurt, they hate to sit.

When I was young and playing ball, I was much the same myself. I cursed every injury; I just wanted to play. If we got hurt, we’d beg the trainer to not tell, because Coach would sit us down. I clearly remember looking at my broken right thumb – I think it was the thumb; I was a catcher and something on my right hand was always broken – and thinking to myself how I wished I could cut the damn thing off, because it was keeping me from playing. Hell, in your early 20s you are bullet-proof.

Ah yes, those were the days…

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 14, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard somewhere that back in the old days you all played without catchers equipment. No wonder you will always hurt.

by PerryMason on Aug 14, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

BITD, catcher's mitt, mask, and chest-protector were all invented by catcher's

I think it was the Dodger catcher nicknamed “Boomer” (can’t remember his real name) invented the throat protector. Elston Howard invented the batting donut – probably while he was whiling away his time on the bench behind Berra, who caught 140-154 every damn year.

Dunno who invented the cup – but God bless the sumbich, whoever he was (doubt it was a woman).

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 14, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steve Yeager - Dodger catcher

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 14, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

after almost dying from a broken bat shard in the throat

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, but isn't a cucumber that small called a gherkin?"

by jbg2772 on Aug 14, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just the same,

everyone gets days off. It’s how it works.

Rob

-- In baseball we trust.

by RobBobS on Aug 15, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

He got his day off - it was on the schedule. Plus rainout day makes two.

And that is how it works, so don’t tell me. T’ain’t Pony League – they play this game for money. Lots of money.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 15, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I mean *everyone* takes days off

and lets others play. Albert Pujols, Ryan Braun, Chase Utley… It doesn’t matter how good you are.
Last year only two players in the Majors— Matt Kemp and Ichiro— even played in 162, never mind starting them all.

Rob

-- In baseball we trust.

by RobBobS on Aug 15, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Espy is a "Dirtbag"

…and thus, he is a breed apart. I did some coaching in the Cal State system, and I’d know a thing or two about “The Beach.” That program is elite, they’re the best ; and trust me, we DC Nats fans have not yet begun to appreciate how special and hard-core Danny Espinosa is. Think he wants to sit? Ask him. G’head.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 15, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

...Not that I don't appreciate your concern

I do. But please understand that you simply have not seen any ballplayer quite like Danny Espinosa before. Seriously. This kid is…well, sit back and watch – and btw, I’m sure he has a good mama, so don’t worry.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 15, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time off

Give Espi the last week of august off, let Lombo play a week, then give DEZ the rest of September off………….

As for DJ……He has’nt really help the team. I like the way he uses only 10 guys, and does’nt change the lineup much………He has not provided any lift to chemistry. He does’nt know when to pull a starter. He favors starters getting the loss while WRiggle man was just the oposite. And BERNIE has been gone way to long.

by artistfork on Aug 14, 2011 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

BNightengale: #mlb #DBacks Jason Marquis has fractured right leg, likely out for season.

For those who didn’t hear, he got hit in the leg by a line drive vs the Mets. Tough break for the old man.

by dc Roach on Aug 14, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Bumma

Very sh*tty break. Only t’other day I was thinking ’bout Jase, and how I wish him well.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 14, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I lurked through the d-backs thread

after reading a (in retrospect unfortunately snide) entry on the main SB MLB page. Apparently Marquis stayed in the game after being hit, then an inning or so later, threw a pitch which (allegedly) hit Thole, and they both went down almost simultaneously.

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, but isn't a cucumber that small called a gherkin?"

by jbg2772 on Aug 14, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Broken shin-bone (yowzah!), then stayed in long enough to hit Thole.

Tough guy, Jason Marquis.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 15, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uggla 0-3 today

streak ends at 33. no BB though he had a sac fly in the first. out on contact the other 3, at least they pitch to him…

by TJL on Aug 14, 2011 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Uggla streak ends?

Stop, yer making me want to cry.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Aug 14, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question on the regular scheduled game on the 20th

I have tickets for the 7 oclock game, is it still at that time or is it being moved up due to it being a double header?

by LUW on Aug 14, 2011 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Since it’s a split doubleheader, I’m guessing nothing changes. They need the time to clear the park in between games so they can make more money.

by dc Roach on Aug 14, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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