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Washington Nationals' Livan Hernandez's 2011 Season Ends With 6-3 Loss To New York Mets.

WASHINGTON, DC - SEPTEMBER 4: Starting pitcher Livan Hernandez #61 of the Washington Nationals works the first inning the New York Mets at Nationals Park on September 4, 2011 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Patrick Smith/Getty Images)

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5. Full Disclosure: I Still Have An Expos' Livan no. 61 Shirsey: When Livan Hernandez walked from the bullpen to the Nationals' dugout down the first base line this afternoon, casually as usual, taking his time, the fans in attendance at Nationals Park cheered the right-hander, rising to their feet and prompting Hernandez to remove and tip his cap to the crowd. When he took the mound it was the traditional first pitch fastball to start New York Mets' infielder Ruben Tejada, who flew out to Jayson Werth in center to start game three of three in Washington, D.C. A weak grounder back to the mound from Justin Turner gave Hernandez out no. 2, and a grounder to first on a 2-1 pitch gave him one scoreless on 12 pitches, 9 strikes. After a nine-pitch 1-2-3 first by Mets' starter Mike Pelfrey, Livan Hernandez came back out for the second and retired next three Mets in order on eight pitches, just to outdo Pelfrey...

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4. Not Headfirst!: Danny Espinosa gets a drag bunt down and by the mound, so Mets' first baseman Josh Satin has to field it and toss to Mike Pelfrey covering, but the Nats' second baseman's headfirst slide beats the big NY starter to the base for the first hit of the game by either team in the bottom of the second. Mike Pelfrey gets Wilson Ramos to chase a 2-2 fastball outside, however, and he's matched Livan Hernandez with two scoreless. Livan Hernandez gives up back-to-back singles to start the third, and after a sac bunt advances both runners, a Ruben Tejada two-run liner to right gives New York a 2-0 lead after three innings in Nats Park. 

3. Livo Gets His Lead: Livan Hernandez throws a quick seven-pitch 1-2-3 fourth after a long 25-pitch third for the 36-year-old right-hander, who's at 52 pitches, 33 strikes after 4.0 IP. Jayson Werth walks to start the Nats' fourth and moves to second on a Rick Ankiel single that flies over Pelfrey's right shoulder and out into center. After he dove instead of stopping Ryan Zimmerman's walk-off bloop last night, Lucas Duda costs the Mets again when he misjudges a fly to right by Danny Espinosa that gets over his head for an RBI double that cuts NY's lead in half at 2-1. Second and third for Nats' rookie first baseman Chris Marrero, who sends a broken bat grounder to second to drive Ankiel in and tie it with his first MLB RBI. 2-2 game. Make that 3-2, Wilson Ramos battles in a nine-pitch AB before shooting a sharp grounder by a diving David Wright at third to drive Espinosa in. Double for Ramos, one-run lead for Washington. 

2. No Fairy Tale Ending: After the Nats take the 3-2 lead, Livan Hernandez is back on the mound where he throws a quick six-pitch fifth inning, allowing a one-out infield single by the opposing pitcher, Mike Pelfrey, before a 4-6-3 DP off Ruben Tejada's bat ends the frame. After a 36-pitch fourth, Mike Pelfrey labors through a 29-pitch 5th, walking three straight batters with two down before he's lifted with the bases loaded. Ryota Igarashi pops Chris Marrero up and in spite of Pelfrey's trouble it's still close, 3-2 after five. One out into the sixth, it's tied. The Mets even it up when Luca Duda launches a 2-0 change from Livan Hernandez into the second deck over the out-of-town scoreboard in right for his 9th HR of 2011. Back-to-back singles by David Wright and Angel Pagan have Livan in trouble. Jason Bay singles to center to load the bases. That's it for Livan. The DC Faithful rise to their feet as Mr. National leaves the mound, tipping his cap to the crowd for what might be the last time. 

1. [Coffey Sprints To Mound]: Willie Harris hits for Josh Satin after Livan's replaced and the former Nats' outfielder crushes the first pitch he sees, sending a low liner by first for a two-run single that makes it 5-3 New York. A suicide squeeze by catcher Mike Nickeas brings Jason Bay in to make it 6-3 NY, and the books is closed on Livan Hernandez, who's in line for the loss in his last outing of 2011. Livan Hernandez's line: 5.1 IP, 8 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 HR, 74 pitches, 47 strikes, 8/3 GO/FO. Mets' rookie Josh Stinson takes over in the bottom of the sixth, and gives up a double by Wilson Ramos and a walk to Alex Cora before a DP grounder by Desmond and groundout to second by Bernadina end the frame. 6-3 Mets after six. 

0. Not With A Broken Bat Bang, But A Whimper: Doug Slaten gives up one and two out singles, but throws a scoreless seventh for Washington. New York rookie Josh Stinson comes back with a 1-2-3 inning against the middle of the Nats' order, and it's up to Henry "Lightning" Rodriguez to keep it close in the top of the eighth. Rodriguez does, throwing an eight-pitch 1-2-3 frame which ends when Mike Nickeas swings through a 100 mph 0-2 fastball. Still 6-3 NY. Danny Espinosa reaches on an infield single to start the eighth, but Jason Isringhausen retires the next three Nats in order to hold the Mets' lead through eight. Drew Storen throws a scoreless top of the ninth, but Bobby Parnell doesn't implode this time, setting Ian Desmond, Brian Bixler and Ryan Zimmerm--actually Zim walks. One on, two outs. Jayson Werth grounds out to third, ballgame. Mets win 6-3, take two of three from Nats to win the weekend series. 

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minor error: Miguel Tejada? that threw me off. it’s Ruben Tejada

anyway, while Livan’s season is over, I sure hope his career is not. this would be a bummer way to go out

Jayson Werth Triple Slash Watch: .232/.332/.389

Morspinosa HR Watch: Michael 21, Danny 18
(Figures accurate through 23 August)

by hscer on Sep 4, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Livan really wants to return to the team next year

He has said that he would like to become a long reliever if there are no spots for him in the starting rotation. He would probably sign for the veteran minimum. He also said he would only play for the Nats, not another team. Will Rizzo give him a deal? I hope so.

There won’t be many veteran pitchers on the staff next year. Livan will also help to sell tickets.

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by Potomac Fan on Sep 4, 2011 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Livo has talked to Rizzo and given him a $ number. Rizzo won't decide anything before the offseason.

Amanda Comak wrote a piece on it:

“I love the city and I love to play here. I did it last year. I had a chance to go away and I did it the year before. I had a chance to go somewhere else and I don’t do it. I waited and I came back and played here. Last year, I had a chance to make more money somewhere and I didn’t do it. I came back here for less and less money.”
There were 20 pitchers who threw 200-plus innings in 2010. Only five of them made less than Hernandez’s $900,000 salary. The average 2011 salary of those 20 pitchers is $9,882,925. Hernandez is making $1 million. In fact, all of the pitchers in this group making less than Hernandez this season are ones who are still within their first few years of major league experience and are still under team control.

by dc Roach on Sep 4, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually what he said apparently is that he would only do long relief for the Nats

And that if he went to another team, he’d want to be a starter. At least according to C&D and a couple of other sources that I’ve read.

by d_c_guy on Sep 5, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

He only says he'd come back as a long reliever

…because he knows that if some starter should falter – as some starter always does – we’d have Livo in shape, ready, and on the roster. If I’m Rizzo, that’s reason enough for me.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Sep 5, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then there're the fans. Anybody care about them?

Oh, you’re a riot, Alice – a regular riot. Livan’s on the mound every OD, never misses a start, always gives a good account of himself, and the fans love him. What to do? Set him at the curb with the garbage. We got some youngsters, y’see. Give them a shot and t’hell with Livan.

And this. Go to the team store at the stadium. Know which player jerseys they’re sold out of? Morse and Ankiel – and both of ’em either sit, or get moved around like player-pieces inna board game.

Fan neglect. Nothing gripes me worse.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Sep 5, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can't have it both ways

Either you play the fan favorites because they’re fan favorites, or you play your best players and pitchers because you want to win every game.

Livo is not good enough for the rotation at this point.

Rob

-- In baseball we trust.

by RobBobS on Sep 5, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

You misunderstand. Fan favorites are fan favorites precisely because they win.

…or at least give a good account. We like to win, y’see. Most of us.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Sep 5, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe as a reliever

Livan is old and largely ineffectual. He hasn’t been the same after the all-star break. No way they should offer him a starting job when there are Strausberg, Zimmermann, Lannan, Milone, Peacock, Wang, and Detwiler all younger and probably better. That being said I wouldn’t be against a solely bullpen role at vet. min. It’s not like Gorzelany, Coffey, and Slaten are any better.

by mk7676 on Sep 4, 2011 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't say mean things about Mr. National! [sob]

Milone has made 1…ONE… major league start.
Peacock has made…um…hmmm.. ZERO!
Might want to wait to count those chickens.

Detwiler is not better at the moment..nor is Wang. I think Wang will be a lot better next year, however. Detwiler? It’s hard to say. Not feeling like a first round pick.

As a very experienced veteran, Livo STILL has a lot to offer the kids both as a mentor…and as a long reliever when the kids forget how to throw a strike. And he could teach them all how to bunt for gosh sakes. Hey, Lannan, I’m looking at you!

Oh, and YU DARVISH! $100 million is nothing to the Lerners!

"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011

by MissB on Sep 4, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's put it this way...

I’d rather take a chance on two rookies who might be very good and might be very bad than to just say “f*** em” and instead give the #5 spot to a 37 year old who isn’t getting below 4.50 next year. Bullpen, fine, because he won’t be taking time away from anyone with possible future implications.

by mk7676 on Sep 5, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ankeil, Pudge.......

And Long reliever Livo all should be resigned…………….Not one of these guys is holding up anyone…….

Gorzo, Slaten, LaFRaud LaROache, Bixler, Gomes, Nix are…………..BERNIE should have been up when NIX went down………..

I’m starting to worry about Detwiller……….As for Wang—-Its price, can’t lock in too many years here………………

by artistfork on Sep 5, 2011 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't get the Detwiler worry

He’s been good a lot more often than he’s been bad. His start Friday was the first time he’d given up more than 3 earned runs (he gave up 3 ER and 3 UER against Cincy, which was not a great start but the ugliness was not anywhere close to all his fault). Other than that he’s done very well this year: he came into Friday’s game with a 2.86 ERA in 44 IP, he can’t have been pitching all that bad.

Rob

-- In baseball we trust.

by RobBobS on Sep 5, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nix has been one of the4 best players on the Nats all season.

Right now, I don’t see any point in re-signing Pudge, Jesus is doing just fine.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Sep 5, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get it.

Just say his name. LaRoche. Thats it. “LaFRaud LaROache” isn’t even clever

Whats the frequency, Kenneth?

by ZimforPrez on Sep 5, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

why the hate for .260 25HR

LET SEVERINO PITCH!

by jeff550 on Sep 5, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Willingham

the Fraud……….Are you new here?

by artistfork on Sep 6, 2011 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know........

the free agent number 1-2s…………Thats what this team needs. That and two guys that will strike out in the mid single digits…………..

I am still for keeping ESPI………….Dumping DEZ and HIS . 241 6 hrs 140 k’S………………

2012 lineup

EMPTY, EMPTY, Zimm, Morse, Werth, ESPI, BERNIE, Ramos………..Ankeil plenty of playing time…………..

by artistfork on Sep 5, 2011 1:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Ankiel's a top hand in CF

On defense, I’d wager he saves us half a run per game. On offense, he puts up numbers as good as any OFer save Nix (I do not count Morse as an OFer), and he’s an excellent baserunner.

Bernadina? He never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Sep 5, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of which, Bernadina cut his hand and is out for a week..

by dc Roach on Sep 5, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably on that try for a foul-ball

No question, he’s all-out. Give him that.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Sep 5, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Half run per game?

Over nobody at all, you might be right. Over a replacement level center fielder, the bWAR estimate is a lit less than a sixth of a run.

Rob

-- In baseball we trust.

by RobBobS on Sep 5, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again the stats. Hell, I thought we just played this game for fun, and to give new guys a shot

…like some bizarre little league, except it’s for money.

OK, Ankiel’s defense is important – but instead of half a run, I should’ve said between 0.125 and 0.167 runs per game. That makes all the difference in the world, and thanks for nailing that down for me. Where would we be without a bWAR? Wandering in the desert, I s’pose.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" - Earl Weaver

by Whupass on Sep 5, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's important

especially when taking into account the fact that he costs the team runs, in general, on offense. So the real question, which the stats should help answer, is whether his defense makes up for his offense. The answer is, only partially. He’s not a real good option for an everyday outfielder. But he’s a good late-inning replacement.

Rob

-- In baseball we trust.

by RobBobS on Sep 5, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the risk of being called a Luddite

I’m with you on this one, Whupass.

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by ricksnats on Sep 6, 2011 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

.250 a run.............

I watch Ankiel save at least one base a game with guys stopping at 2nd and 3rd…….

by artistfork on Sep 6, 2011 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

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