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PHOENIX, AZ - OCTOBER 04:  Prince Fielder #28 of the Milwaukee Brewers looks on from first base in the first inning against the Arizona Diamondbacks in Game Three of the National League Division Series at Chase Field on October 4, 2011 in Phoenix, Arizona.  (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

• In case you don't spend your weekends in January glued to Twitterfeeds or the Facebook waiting for updates, here's a quick review of the rumors revolving around Prince Fielder and the Washington Nationals from the past three days...

The latest significant update in the "Where will Prince Fielder sign?" saga (which many have hoped could finally resolve itself this week after Yu Darvish does or doesn't sign with Texas on Wednesday the 18th) came this past Friday night when USA Today baseball writer Bob Nightengale reported that the 27-year-old slugger was in the Lone Star state visiting with the Rangers' brass in the lobby of what was later revealed, by Fort Worth Star-Telegram writer Jeff Wilson in an article Friday night entitled, "Rangers test water by talking to Prince Fielder", to be the, "Four Seasons Resort in Las Colinas." Former Nats' GM Jim Bowden (@JimBowdenESPNXM) sort-of-updated the story Sunday night by writing on Twitter that the reason what was supposed to be a "secret" meeting got out in the press was that, "The confidential [meeting at] Four Seasons was coincindentally where Joel Hanrahan was getting married." (ed. note - "Congrats, Joel!")

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But more interesting than the details of how the meeting became public knowledge were the former Nationals' general manager's tweeted comments about how the, "Rangers meeting with Fielder @ the Four Seasons Hotel went extremely well," and his opinion that it's not a one or the other type of thing with Fielder and Yu Darvish as many had assumed, "they can afford to sign both Darvish and Fielder if they choose," Mr. Bowden wrote Sunday. Those tired of waiting for Prince to sign have been hoping the Rangers' decision either way on Darvish could eliminate or open up the one logical AL option for a long-term deal for the 5'11'', 275lb left-handed hitting and throwing first baseman or force him to decide between a smaller deal in Toronto, a big offer from a rebuilding team in Seattle, a less-than-ideal but still substantial offer from Washington's on-the-cusp-of-something, Scott-Boras-friendly franchise or an offer from an as-yet-unidentified mystery team.

In his weekly "Sunday Baseball Notes" column, Boston Globe baseball writer Nick Cafardo wrote that the, "Marlins, Nationals, and Rangers remain possibilities," for Fielder. Mr. Cafardo says the O's and M's don't have the funds to lure Fielder to their teams, and, "Most believe the Nationals make the most sense, but they also need more pitching and a center fielder." There's no word on whether or not Washington is on the list of teams that Fielder will visit (or if their visit last week in Arizona was part of Round 2 of the meetings) on what CBSSports.com's Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) wrote late on Friday night was another tour of interested MLB teams Fielder and his agent Scott Boras were embarking upon.

ESPN.com's Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) wrote Friday night on Twitter that, "One exec today believes WAS, TEX, CHC may ultimately get this Fielder contract structure: 6 years, opt-out after 3 years, 22-24m a year." MLB.com's Bill Ladson's sources, as he reported Saturday in an article entitled, "Nats still in running to land free-agent Fielder", were telling him the Nationals are still in the mix, still unwilling to go to 10 years, but now willing to include a no-trade clause in a six or seven-year deal.

Fielder's meeting with the Rangers on Friday was described as being a, "... 'very preliminary' step in potential contract negotiations," as Dallas Morning News' writer Evan P. Grant wrote Saturday in an article entitled, "Nolan Ryan calls meeting with Prince Fielder very preliminary", which quoted Texas' team president Nolan Ryan offering that description of the sitdown with the free agent first baseman. Members of Texas' front office met with super agent Scott Boras and Fielder after, "Boras requested Friday's meeting with the Rangers," according to another Dallas Morning News' blog post entitled, "Sources: Rangers met with Prince Fielder, agent Scott Boras on Friday."

The deadline for Yu Darvish to sign is Wednesday (1/18). Those hoping that would be the end of all the rumors have just three days to wait now...though it's not guaranteed that a decision is coming any time soon...Will the Rangers shock the world and add a 25-year-old right-hander in Darvish and the 27-year-old Fielder to avoid falling behind and allowing a mineshaft gap in the arms race with their AL West rivals in Anaheim. Can the Nationals owners be convinced to invest in a long-term deal with another Boras client this winter after signing Jayson Werth long-term in 2010? When will the identity of the mystery team be revealed? When will this all end?

MASNSports.com's Phil Wood wrote Sunday in an article entitled, "A weighty question", that his sources, "... indicate that Fielder himself believes he's a good fit with Washington." Do the Lerners and D.C. GM Mike Rizzo agree?

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Must...get...Fielder

Can’t take any more of this!

by poppa on Jan 16, 2012 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

Does it really

Make sense to sign him though? I mean, yeah, he’ll be great for the next 3-4 years, but what about the other 7 years we’re stuck with him? I dunno, I’d love to have him this year, but his waistline makes me nervous going forward.

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Jan 16, 2012 9:53 AM EST reply actions  

I'm comfortable five-six years ahead...

After that I really start to worry, which is why I think there has to be an opt-out there if you sign him.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Jan 16, 2012 10:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I still don't get it

Everyone harps on his weight and his father’s decline in his early 30’s. Which is a fine argument against an 8-10 year deal, but at the current term being discussed, 6-7 years, he should be perfectly fine. By all accounts he takes much better care of himself than ‘Big Daddy’ and is a better hitter for both avg and obp. Just FYI, Cecil’s 28-33 y/o seasons averaged 135GP, .254/.347/.467; 29HR/98RBI; 113OPS+. Not too shabby for an overweight slugger, I’d bet that PF Flyer’s years will be at least as good as those averages, and as I said before, he’s a much better hitter.

"It’s hard to be good. It’s easy to not be good." -Coach Turgeon

by wittcap79 on Jan 16, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with the idea of 6 I'm torn on 7

But Boras is great at getting what he wants. I don’t know that the deal would only be 6 years. If he signs for 8 with Texas would you be mad that we didn’t sign him for 8? I don’t think that the terms that the experts speculate about are necessarily a reflection of reality. It sounds like the Nats are holding firm at some length of time, but what is it? 8? 7? 6? If the Rangers can add one year to what the Nats offer I think Texas gets him. The flexibility of moving him to DH is a huge selling point. On top of that if you are Fielder, it has got to be more tempting to go to the team that has been to the WS in the past two years. So maybe Texas just has to match the Nats…

I think there is a concern about a decline in his hitting, but also a decline in his fielding as well. Players with Old People skills (power and OBP, right?) don’t age well historically. Dunn simply collapsed last year. I hope for his sake he turns it around…

My guess is that it is Boras who is holding out for an 8 year deal… but I have absolutely no inside info…

by Hotpockets on Jan 16, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

It was thought that Texas’ decision would hinge on the Darvish signing, but now that does not necessarily appear to be the case. Supposedly they may be weighing whether or not they’d rather have Fielder long term or Josh Hamilton, which means that things might not come to a head when the Darvish issue is resolved.
I don’t want to see a 7-8 year deal without opt-outs… Despite the fact that it would be a lot of fun to watch for the first few years of the deal. It’s mighty crazy.

by PerryMason on Jan 16, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

The problem is

Fielder holds the leverage, and we would probably have to go longer to land him. Especially with the Werth deal setting precedent.
Also, whether he takes better care than his father or not, the bottom line is he’s not a guy who’s worried about being in shape. And that usually translates to problems with longevity.

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Jan 16, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

But would he

Agree to an opt-out. With us at least?

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Jan 16, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm good with that

They have my blessing to sign him to that contract.

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Jan 16, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

[Lerners sigh in relief]

Rob

--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds

by RobBobS on Jan 16, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

Glad to be of service.

Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump" bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

by CJHutch on Jan 16, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

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