The Washington Nationals' 2012 Outfield: Michael Morse, Jayson Werth, A Phenom? A Platoon? A Few Stopgaps?
Washington Nationals' GM Mike Rizzo talked to MASN's (and MLB Network Radio's) Mel Antonen (@MelAntonen) on Friday (as reported via the Twitter), with Mr. Antonen writing that, "#Nats GM Mike Rizzo says he's making calls, looking for a match for CF. If no trade, [Mike] Cameron and [Roger] Bernadina and [Jayson] Werth are candidates." The Nats' general manager sounded resigned to the fact that Washington wouldn't find their center fielder/leadoff man this winter when he talked to reporters earlier this week, explaining, "I think that we have candidates in house that we'll go to Spring Training with," though he added, "That's not to say that we've abandoned the search for the right fit for us."
"But, we like the options that we have going into Spring Training," Rizzo continued, "and we do have multiple options of what to play, be it Jayson Werth moving to center or a platoon system in center field. We're not satisfied with not getting the long-term solution that we had [wanted], but we're satisfied with the in-house candidates and we feel that we're going to field the right kind of team going into Spring Training." The GM had previously said that the 2013 free agent class provided more options than this winter's to solve their center field needs, but Rizzo is apparently remaining open to the possibility of something happening this winter.
Starting the season with a Mike Cameron/Roger Bernadina platoon? As much as the Nationals continue to insist that Bryce Harper will have a legit shot at making the roster out of Spring Training, chances are he's headed back to the minors at least to start the season. The Nats' GM reiterated this week that the 19-year-old outfielder will make the move to the majors when he's ready, whenever that is. "When I believe Harper is ready to play in the big leagues," Rizzo said, "he'll be in the big leagues. We're not going to hinder his progress, but we're not going to accelerate it to a point that I think it endangers his development and curtails his overall performance."
As MASN's Mr. Antonen wrote on Twitter after speaking to the general manager, "#Nats GM Mike Rizzo tells MASN that he'll keep an open mind on #Bryce Harper starting 2012 in the bigs, but, 'He needs minor-league AB.'" The 19-year-old 2010 1st Round pick has 452 plate appearances (not counting AFL/ST PA's) on his resume as a professional, over which he's put up a .297/.392/.501 line, but he was just 37 games and 147 plate appearances into his Double-A experience when a hamstring injury ended his 2011 campaign.
Mike Cameron turned 39 on January 8th and the 17-year MLB veteran's coming off a 2011 season in which he hit ten doubles and nine home runs, but made just 269 plate appearances over 79 games between the Boston Red Sox and Florida Marlins. In a January 17th interview with MLB Network Radio hosts Jeff Joyce and Cliff Floyd, Cameron said he's not sure what his role with Washington will be. After reading up on the situation to inform himself on what's going on with the Nats, Cameron said that to him, "It sounds like [Davey Johnson] likes Jayson Werth in center, that is, if Harper's ready to play, then I'll just kind of see where I figure in somewhere in there."
Roger Bernadina's coming of a .243/.301/.362 season in 2011, pretty much producing what he's averaged over his first four years in the majors (.242/.304/.364 career slash). In a year in which he once again bounced between the majors and Triple-A Syracuse, Bernadina was unable to stake his claim on the starting job in center and the talk heading into last Spring was that the Nats liked him more in a corner spot. The Nationals have Eury Perez on the 40-Man Roster, but he hasn't played above High-A. Corey Brown, Brett Carroll, Jason Michaels and Xavier Paul have invites to Spring Training. They drafted Brian Goodwin this year, but he's yet to play a professional game. Harper's done enough for MLB.com's scouts to recognize him as the top outfield prospect in baseball, and could be the best outfielder (outside of Werth, Morse?) in camp with the Nationals this Spring, but concerns about making sure he's ready and putting off the start of free agency for as long as possible may delay his ascent a little while longer.
"We're going to bring the best 25 north, If that includes Harper, it's Harper," the Nats' GM said before explaining as quoted above that it won't be until he's ready to make the jump. But right now it seems like it's more likely to be a platoon in center (or RF) to start the year and a Michael Morse, Jayson Werth, Bryce Harper outfield as soon as Harper's ready in the general manager's eyes. But Rizzo's still working the phones and Spring Training's still weeks away...
And Rick Ankiel's still unsigned...
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Has there been any indication that they’re attempting to resign Ankiel or what?
by RossingtonCollins on Jan 28, 2012 4:36 PM EST reply actions
This is the last I've heard/read/seen anywhere...
@AdamKilgoreWP: “The Nats are still talking with Rick Ankiel. If he returns, it’d be in a platoon/4th OF role, with a chance to earn more playing time.”
That was on 1/12/12
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Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 28, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Been talked about in connection with Reds/Mets since then, but not signed yet obviously...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 28, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Crossed fingers here
Stop-gap and what of it. Rick can start and play a very credible CF all season long. Harper tears up AAA then comes up in Sept; he takes over LF, Morse moving to 1B – where he belongs – and we swap LaRoche prior to the deadline.
Then next winter – flush with our WS victory – we see’f we can pry Andrew McCutchen loose from the Bucs. Aw shaddup, dammit – I can dream, can’t I?
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
by Whupass on Jan 29, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Harper from day 1
He has to start sometime and the Nats will need the lefy bat in the lineup. Sure he will struggle in the beginning byt his bat is ML ready. He will loose a year but does anyone think he wolnt be extended long before taht would come into play. Let the Harper era begin 2012 opening day!!!!!
If Harper turns out as expected, arb and FA years will be bought out. We didn't worry about Zim (or Storen) and we won't worry about Bryce.
If he turns into Kory Casto, it won’t matter either way…
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."
by cat daddy3000 on Jan 28, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
how much higher than record-setting can he go?
if Harper turning FA becomes an issue, it’s only because we’ve already lost him.
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."
by cat daddy3000 on Jan 28, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
4th outfielder
I do prefer Ankiel over the Shark do you guys think they would keep both on the bench ??
ankiel was worthless on the bench last season
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man
CF
Barring a trade, Ankiel / Cameron platoon makes the most sense. I like Ankiel in the clubhouse and for defense. Sure would be nice to have addressed this with a long-term solution but I don’t can’t think of any real opportunities that were available. No way Harper makes the team out of spring training…he needs more time in the minors and the Nats will not blow a year of control while he figures it out at the major league level. Ain’t gonna happen.
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I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."
by cat daddy3000 on Jan 28, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
I am 50-50 on starting Harper with the big-league club
(that way Rizzo can’t disappoint me again.) There’s pretty good evidence that he’s ready; certainly phrases like “no way” and “ain’t gonna happen” don’t seem appropriate to the discussion.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
Right...........
No way Harper comes North. and then the NATS lose control of a year.
I still say go after Juan Pierre and his 7% strikeout ratio…………
and his SLG < OBP
and high CS rate. And noodle arm.
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Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
I honestly think that Harper can have an immediate impact with the club. I won’t be disappointed if he starts in the minors, but anyone with his skills can give a team an boost. IMHO any experience in the majors is better than an extended amount of play in the minors, failing in the majors will only motivate him to work harder to find success. But on the same accord keeping him in the minors will piss him off, so he will continue to work. Both options have their pros and cons.
by RossingtonCollins on Jan 28, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions
I know he's not real well liked by many of you, but........
I still have to think the Cubs are more than willing to move Marlon Byrd. He seems like a near-perfect fit if you ask me. He’s nothing special, and he’s certainly not a leadoff hitter. Still, he’s a legit defensive CF with about a league average bat.
Floor – League average bat (dropped off just a touch last season with a 93 wRC+….. career, he’s a 99 wRC+….. It’s hard to be more league average than that)/league average to slightly below league average glove in CF. He’s actually been a plus CF per UZR/150 the past two years in Chicago, but he’s 34 and could see the glove start to drop off a touch.
Ceiling – Probably not much better than league average. Could hit 12-15 HR with an OBP around .340 or so (he’s had better seasons than that in the past). He’s definitely proven he’s capable of providing value with the glove.
Byrd shouldn’t cost a whole lot. He’s due $6.5 million this season and slated to become a free agent next year. With the Cubs expected to be in the Cespedes bidding and wanting to maybe create a spot in the outfield for Brett Jackson, reports have indicated that he’s available all winter. If whoever gets him picks up the whole tab for 2012, I couldn’t see the Cubs getting more than a C/C+ prospect for him. If Chicago foots half the bill, they could maybe get a B prospect.
Dealing a couple of C prospects or a C+ prospect and taking on the remainder of his contract before going after a free agent next offseason makes plenty of sense.
by bluelineswinger on Jan 28, 2012 9:07 PM EST reply actions
an idea to consider, for sure
I liked Crisp, and he would have been cheaper in dollars and zero prospects and not be coming off a bad year at a bit of a younger age, but apart from a concerning k/bb rate over the last few I think everything you said suggests a decent stopgap offensively and defensively.
by William.Hatheway on Jan 28, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
If he's really lost weight like the reports say, he could be useful.
I’d think he’d at least be better than Shark or Cameron.
Yes, Byrd has lost weight this off-season....
seems he has a wheat allergy that was almost to celiac disease level, so he had his diet overhauled. Plus he’s added a mixed-martial arts workout to his routine.
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Go Ringo, Go Ringo!!!
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
I actually like Byrd…and your suggestion makes sense. There’s no power in that bat, and he is not much of a threat to steal, but I would assume he keeps his average at .280 or above and scores 75+ runs. I wouldn’t be heart-broken. He would have looked better though, with Fielder in the lineup. :(
Less fat by comparison?
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by The Herndon Kid on Jan 29, 2012 8:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Answer
Sign Ankiel. Rick will hold it down and do whatever you need. He will throw lasers, swing hard, and do his thing. Do It.
by smashmouthsteel on Jan 29, 2012 12:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don’t hold much hope for Bernadina.
I’d like to see the nats have a consistant lineup day in and day out. Hitting from the CF’er this year looks like a lost cause to me, so I vote for maximizing the defense there by having an Ankiel/Cameron platoon (especially with Morse is in LF). Keep Werth in RF, let Morse hold down left until Harper comes up then move Morse to 1st.
That keeps the Nats strong up the middle and keeps Davey from having to play Chinese Checkers everyday with the D.
not a bad point
though only consideration for me is Ankiel’s splits, but point taken
by William.Hatheway on Jan 29, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Ankiel/Bernadina platoon would be best till Harper IMO
Ankiel might also be the best bench bat out there, assuming Damon gets a starting gig somewhere.
MOAR SEVERINO!
Yup
I just think Cameron will have trouble hitting .200, and do we have anyone else? Treat CF like the Capitals goalies, play the hot hand
MOAR SEVERINO!
Ugh, Cant belive im hoping for another year of Ankiel/Shark
please find a trade somewhere Rizzo
MOAR SEVERINO!
1. Desmond
2. Espinozo (until he cools off)
3. Zimmerman
4. Morse
5. Werth
6. LaRoche’s
7. Ramos
8. Ankiel/Cameron
I'd put Werth second, LaRoche 5th and Espinosa 6th.
and pray for Bryce Harper to get there soon. Of course this assumes that LaRoche can actually be a decent hitter, not really a #5 hitter, but he has to be able to pretend to be one until Harper can do it. I just like Werth’s walks higher up in the lineup, with better hitters behind him. Espinosa’s strength as a hitter is his power, at #2 he is not going to come to bat with men on base very often, and he doesn’t get on base much for the power hitters behind him.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
I'd be tempted to go you one further
Werth
Desmond
Zimmerman
Morse
LaRoche
Espinosa
Ramos
CF
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You take advantage of Werth’s OBP (ignoring comments about paying $127MM for a leadoff hitter). The downside is (a) if Desmond continues to whiff at his career rate, (b) four RH hitters at the top of the lineup, and © no protection for Ramos. Sigh. You deal the hand you’re dealt.
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Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
+1 to batting Werth #2
Unlike Riggleman, I don’t think that DJ will be tempted to bunt the leadoff hitter over as much. Werth takes pitches, which gives Desmond the opportunity to be aggressive on the basepaths if he sees an opportunity.
I’d also hit LaRoche #5 and Espinosa #6, although acknowledging that it’s not a great situation given their K rates. I would also hit Ramos #8 because he seems comfortable there, and not everyone hits well in front of the pitcher’s slot.
Yuk!
I don’t like Werth hitting 1 or 2 at all. I’d sooner see him hit 3rd and move Zimm and Morse to 4th and 5th.
cool off?
like Espinosa’s “hot” september? (that wasn’t influenced by worse pitching, because it was actually better). that myth needs to die.
by William.Hatheway on Jan 29, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
NPUT...
And something kinda crazy came up this afternoon too that I’m looking into and don’t know how to take, more on that (maybe) a little later today…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 29, 2012 3:06 PM EST reply actions
Storen for Dunn? Total BS
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