On Bryce Harper, Top Outfield Prospects And The Washington Nationals' Choice...
It was the Spring of 2010. He had just been named the no.1 prospect in baseball by MLB.com. All signs pointed to the fact that '07 1st Round pick Jason Heyward was ready. There were some things that had to be considered, however, in any discussion of his chances of making the major league roster out of Spring Training. The previous season, the Atlanta Braves had delayed right-hander Tommy Hanson's debut until June to stave off the start of free agency and prevent the pitcher from reaching Super Two status for as long as possible, but Heyward, then 20, who'd finished the 2009 season (his second-full season), which he played at High-A, Double and Triple-A in the Braves' system with a .323/.408/.555 line, 25 doubles, 17 HR's, 51 walks and 51 K's in 99 games and 422 plate appearances, didn't seem like he could be held back. "'If he's coming to camp, he's going to have a shot to win a job,'" Braves' skipper Bobby Cox told MLB.com's Mark Bowman at the time in an article entitled, "Phenom Heyward's future may be now."
A month later Atlanta's manager told another MLB.com writer that Heyward was, "'... as good a player as I've seen all spring -- our team, any other team.'" Heyward finished the Spring Training 18 for 59 with four doubles, a home run, 10 walks, 11 K's and a .305/.423/.424 slash in 22 games. When the Braves announced that Heyward had made the Opening Day roster, third baseman Chipper Jones praised the team's decision, telling MLB.com's Alden Gonzalez in an article entitled, "Easy decision: Heyward makes Braves", that, "'You want to leave Florida with the best eight everyday players, the best 25 guys you have in camp,' Jones said. 'Jason Heyward is part of that starting eight.'"
GM Frank Wren explained in the article that the decision was made because the Braves thought they could compete that season and believed that Heyward was, "'... going to be an integral part of a competitive team,'":
"I'm not sure how you face the other 24 players, the staff, the fans and say, 'We're going to keep him in the Minor Leagues.' I can't do that. We'll figure out his contract way down the road.'"
Can you compare the Braves' decision to the decision the Washington Nationals face heading into the 2012 campaign? Both Heyward and Nats' outfielder Bryce Harper were the top outfield prospects in baseball, but Heyward had more time in the minors than Bryce Harper's had heading into Spring Training this year. Mike Trout and the Angels last Spring might be a better comp. Trout, an '09 1st Round pick taken 25th overall by the Los Angeles Angels, was 19 (he turned 20 in August '11) and coming off a .341/.428/.490 2010 season (his first full season as a pro) in which he'd hit 28 doubles and 10 HR's in 131 games and 600 plate appearances when he went to Spring Training last year. Trout was named the no.1 prospect in baseball on MLB.com's 2011 List. After a .276/.364/.276 Spring, the Angels started Trout at Double-A and he was hitting .330 with 12 doubles, 11 triples and nine HR's in 74 games when an injury to center fielder Peter Bourjos forced LA to call him up to make his MLB debut in the first week of July.
Trout was just the third 19-year-old position to make his major league debut since 1998, following B.J. Upton in 2004 and Justin Upton in 2007. The elder Upton, a Rays' '02 1st Round pick (taken 2nd overall), finished his first pro season at Class-A and Double-A with a .297/.390/.431 slash, 30 doubles, six triples and eight home runs in 130 games and 580 plate appearances in 2003, and he had a .315/.410/.505 slash in 98 games and 433 plate appearances between Double-and-Triple-A in '04 before Tampa Bay called him up. B.J. turned 20 nineteen days after making his MLB debut in early August, and had a .258/.324/.409 line in his first 45 games and 177 plate appearances in the majors.
Justin Upton, the no.1 overall pick in '05, played 216 games and made 957 plate appearances at A-AA in the D-Backs' system before Arizona called him up in August '07, posting a .263/.343/.413 slash with 28 doubles and 12 HR's in 113 games and 501 PA's at Class-A in '06 and a .319/.410/.551 line with 23 doubles and 18 HR's in 103 games and 456 PA's at High-A and Double-A in '07 before his debut.
In the younger Upton's first 43 games and 152 PA's, the 19-year-old had a .221/.283/.364 slash, eight doubles, three triples and two home runs. Last year Trout had a .163/.213/.279 line when he was sent back down to Double-A a month later. Called back up in mid-August, Trout appeared in 26 games and made 88 PA's after returning to the Angels, putting up a .250/.318/.450 line to end his first MLB season with six doubles, five home runs and a .220/.281/.390 slash.
Bryce Harper was named the top position player on MLB.com's list of the Top Prospects for 2012 (2nd overall on the list), but he got just 452 plate appearances in during 109 games in his first pro season after being selected no.1 overall in the 2010 Draft. Harper had a .297/.392/.501 line, 24 doubles, three triples and 17 HR's at Class-A Hagerstown and Double-A Harrisburg before a hamstring injury ended his season. Harper went to the Arizona Fall League again this year and had a .333/.400/.634 slash with six doubles and six home runs in 25 games and 93 at bats, earning himself the distinction of being named the AFL's top prospect by MLB.com, after struggling early and recovering to put together a 16-game hit streak.
Nationals' skipper Davey Johnson, in an interview with 106.7 The FAN in D.C.'s Mike Wise and Holden Kushner earlier this winter, said that when Spring Training's over, "I'm going to go north with the best group of guys I can lay my hands on," explaining that he'd asked D.C. GM Mike Rizzo to keep an open mind about the left-handed hitting phenom making the team out of Spring Training.
In an interview on MLB Network Radio this winter, D.C. GM Mike Rizzo talked about how impressed he was with what he saw from the young outfielder in the Arizona Fall League. "He was terrific out there," Rizzo said, "I was out there for five games and I happened to catch him when he was actually on fire which was really exciting to see. I look at a guy who's got power potential, has the ability to put the bat on the ball consistently, he has the uncanny ability to swing and create extreme bat speed and still keep the bat through the hitting zone for a long, long time and is very, very balanced. So, it's kind of a unique hitting style and situation." Asked about his manager's comments about Harper during an interview with reporters last week, the general manager said, "'We're going to bring the best 25 north. If that includes Harper, it's Harper. When I believe Harper is ready to play in the big leagues, he'll be in the big leagues.'"
If the Nationals think they can contend this season do they want to have Harper up with the team from the start like the Braves with Heyward? Do they want to delay his ascent to make sure they get an extra year out of him in 2018? Unable to find a center fielder this winter, the Nationals (who are still looking) are heading into Spring Training with one outfield spot open and an uninspiring cast of options that could either hold the spot for Harper til he's called up if he starts in Double-or-Triple-A or provide some obstacles for the 19-year-old to overcome if he earns a spot on the Opening Day roster this Spring. Either way, barring any injuries or setbacks, at some point this season, the Nats' 2010 no.1 overall pick will become just the fourth position player in the since 1998 to debut at 19.
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Thursday, Apr 5, 2012, 2:20 PM EDT Wrigley Field........ so, it's settled then...
Bryce Harper – RF……………DAY ONE
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."
Easysteady there, big fella
Let’s wait to see how he does in Viera first lol
slam dunk, dude, after Boras' Holiday Baseball Camp....
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."
by cat daddy3000 on Jan 30, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
7 for 18, 3 2B, .389/.450/.556 with 1BB, 3 K's...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 30, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Too bad he had that slow start...
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
Seriously…..I think he could sleep walk to better stats than our other options; and I’d accept the occasional OF defensive blunder to see it. If he is gonna have freshmen season growing pains in MLB, I rather them come in 2012. I want to see him ready for the “Big Show” in 2013, when this team steamrolls through the playoffs!
+steamrollz
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
who's Steve Rolls?
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
Remember sometime slightly less than a 2 years ago when ther was a post comparing Zim and Stras against Heyward and Hanson?
I think hindsight will be in the Nats favor on that one.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
From MLB Rumors there was this item: “Ben Badler of Baseball America offers scouting reports on six intriguing international players not named Yoenis Cespedes. Outfielder Jorge Soler, lefty Gerardo Concepcion and right Armando Rivero are worth watching, Badler writes.”
Any chance we go after Soler, and could he play if the CF mix for the Nats (or is he still a little ways away?). For that matter, since we have at least one bench slot left to fill, any more FA’s seem likely? Maybe Ankiel? Others?
-bdbd
word is Soler's further away than Cespedes
and I’m pretty much anti-Cespedes…
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
My understanding is that it's not so much that Soler has a higher ceiling
Cespedes’s ceiling is pretty much legit multi-threat all-star. But Soler’s floor isn’t quite so low, when you factor in the expense. Both could bust, but Cespedes could bust very expensively.
Cespedes floor is pretty much Willy Mo
with slightly better defense but less power.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
doesnt sound like any would help out the '12 or '13 nats
but iirc theres isnt much of a next-wave of OF in the system is there
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man
Cespedes gave a list of 6 teams he said were interested, and Nats were not on it...
As far as I know (have read/heard) only Ladson’s sources have said the Nationals are out of the running for Cespedes, but everyone has all-of-a-sudden stopped talking about the Nats as potential suitors…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 31, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Question...
Since the Nats have only 37 players on the 40-man roster (as of yesterday afternoon), what’s next?
Jason Heyward
Obviously hindsight is 20/20 but…since we have it, let the debate begin
Jayson Heyward
2011, .227, .319, .389, .708
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
Don't be fooled
Heyward was injured last year and never got on track because of that. His 2010 (.277/.393/.456) is the guy we’re going to see in 2012.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
Needs more time
I posted in Fan Posts yesterday how almost all 19 year olds have stunk in the big leagues. Only two EVER have been strong and that was last done in 1928. Based on that history, it’s almost a lock that Harper will not perform very well when called up this year. So, why start free agency a year sooner for that?
Unless you think he’ll be a better 19 year old than ARod, Micky Mantle and Ted Williams then he might as well spend a couple months in Syracuse and join the team in June.
We can’t really expect anything out of him until next year.
Jason Heyward was 21 last year. Mike Trout was 19 and his numbers were lousy. Trout was rated AHEAD of Harper last year by Baseball America. I think Harper will be excellent but not this year. So, start him in AAA.
Again,
If he plays a fair amount in 2012, his 2013 will be much better, if historic trends apply. That’s why you push him. Remember that the free agency thing only is an issue if he starts the season with the team; if he comes up any time after late April (after 20 days) then he will not be FA-eligible until 2018.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
Or if he starts with the team and is sent back down for a while, that would defer enough service time to put off free agency
But the team seems to want to avoid having to send him back, and I don’t blame them.
Completely agree
If we’re going to have a .220 hitting outfielder (like Ankiel and Bernadina last year) then I’d rather it be Harper than say, Mike Cameron.
by charliemike on Jan 31, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like to see if he can be a capable CF in AAA
which is why I want him to start in the minors. As Rob points out, he just has to spend one day in the minors to give the team control of him thru ’18. I could care less about the Super Two deadline, but maintaining the extra year of control (during his prime) is huge.
But I believe we’ll see him this year sooner than later.
We Aim to Maim - JoseRijo es mi Amigo aka court
Actually,
it’s 20 days. Short of that and he still gets a year of ML service time.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
If he starts the season in the minors, he has to wait 20 days...
but I believe, technically he only needs one day in the minors to push his clock back. Meaning he could start the season in the majors, then get sent down (although I think there is some kind of minimum amount of days he has to wait to be called back up).
Realistically, I think whenever he gets called up, he’ll be up to stay.
We Aim to Maim - JoseRijo es mi Amigo aka court
IIRC, 10 days unless there's an injury requiring his recall
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
I think the real rule is:
if a player spends at least 20 days in the minors, then his team is charged with using an option on him. I think this also results in some of his season be counted to be minor league (hence he earns less than a full year at the Major League level.)
The confusing thing is that there’s an additional rule that if a player spends 172 days in the Majors, then he also gets credited with a full year. So it’s possible that the official rule is that if he spends around 8 days in the minors to start the season, then (1) the Nats aren’t charged with an option, and (2) he’s not credited with a full year at the ML level. (I don’t think this is right, but it could be possible given the way the rules I’ve seen are written)
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
sounds familiar
wasnt that something like they might try with bally last year?
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man
Major League experience is worlds better than AAA experience any day of the week.
by RossingtonCollins on Jan 31, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Should the question be whether he's one of the best 8 position players
Or one of the best 25 players?
Obviously, what I’m going for here is the question of whether he’d be ready to be a STARTER on this team. If not, then it seems like a no-brainer to keep him in the minors for the games he needs to get under his belt.
of course, if I’m looking at our current OFs, I’m thinking he has a pretty darned good chance of being “one of the best 8” coming out of ST.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
After Werth and Morse I don’t think anyone could make an argument that the Shark, Cameron, or Ankiel would be any more valuable than Harper at this present time.
by RossingtonCollins on Jan 31, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree big time here… Granted that they might be better in the field because Harper hasn’t had as much experience there, but I will take his stick over anyone who’s still trying for a starting position.
by RossingtonCollins on Jan 31, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to trust the management on that one.
Maybe Harper is ready to mash at the Major League level, but maybe not. He is after all, only 19. Bill James projects Bernandina at .261/.327/.399. Mike Trout hit only .220/.281/.390 this year. It isn’t a forgone conclusion that Harper is going to have a .750 OPS as a rookie. He could easily post something in the .600’s. Maybe he come up and rake like cyborg, post an OPS of .900+ but it seems more likely that is going to come later in his career.
I am saying is that we should trust that Davey, Rizzo, and the crew of the S.S. Drought Ender, to decide what is best for the Nationals. And that it might not be Harper on Opening Day.
#extendZim
...which is perfectly OK with me
…as long as they really do the assessment and not just say “he’s not ready” before Spring Training even begins.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
I hope he gets a lot of playing time in ST, just so everyone can have legit exposure to him and then they can make their own conclusions. He could suck it big time and everything I’ve said goes out the window.
by RossingtonCollins on Jan 31, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Alright Davey, I'll keep an open mind, but you should know there are good reasons to keep him in minors.
So, he better be clearly superior to the other canidates. Otherwise, were putting him on the bus for a bit.
#extendZim
Harper is better than Trout
In the AFL, where they were on the same team here are their slash lines:
Trout – .245/.279/.321
Harper – .333/.400/.634
A lot of Trout’s value comes from being a plus CF defender. Most, if not all, publications have Harper above Trout this year. I’m not saying Harper will mash right away, but I am saying that we should expect much more from Harper than what Trout showed.
We Aim to Maim - JoseRijo es mi Amigo aka court
Trout had a bad AFL, that's for sure
but those numbers don’t represent how he’ll likely fare given a full-time MLB job.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
No
I think the decision should be made as to what is best for his long-term development. That said, like Strasburg, they’ll come a time when he has to learn at the big league level because he’s simply too good for the minors.
We Aim to Maim - JoseRijo es mi Amigo aka court
Burning service time in a part time role is a horrible idea.
Whether he plays or not, every day on the team counts as service time. If you would rather play everyday now, I can understand not caring about conserving service time. But if he’s not playing everyday, it’s just a horrible, horrible waste.
Plus, at his age I think playing everyday is important to his development.
So he needs to be one of the 8 best, not just a one of the best 25.
Honestly at this point
if they want Harper to start in the minors, I think we should just try to get as many OF as we can on minor league deals, hoping that one of them can be a decent bench player. Right now we might have the worst bench in baseball Cameron, Lombardozzi, DeRosa, Flores, and Paul. blech. Lombardozzi, Cameron, and Paul are all guys I think wont hit much this year, Flores is the back up catcher, and DeRosa will get hurt. Hopefuly we get Ankiel/Fukudome/similar player to at least make the bench decent.
MOAR SEVERINO!
ankiel just doesnt provide any offensive value to the bench
like the guy and all but still
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man
He provides more offensive value than Cameron
If Cameron gets 300 AB’s for the team, it will be worse than if Ankiel gets 300AB’s. Cameron is done.
MOAR SEVERINO!
Ankiel is a black hole with a bat
His offense costs a lot more than his defense provides.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
If Ankiel is in line with career norms
he will get you a positive WAR, on the other hand I bet Cameron puts up Stairs like WAR, he was about -1 last year, and now he is a year older. Ankiel can at least hit .240, with some pop and good defense. Your other options to Ankiel are what we have(Xavier Paul, Brett Carroll, etc) or someone from this list
Damon(better bat than Ankiel, but will probably get a DH spot somewhere)
Jay Gibbons
Raul Ibanez(cant field)
Just Ruggiano
Kosuke Fukudome
Magglio Ordonez
I would perfer maybe Ibanez, Fukudome, and maybe Ordonez to Ankiel, but the rest could be Stairs or Bixler 2.0
MOAR SEVERINO!
Ya I don't really understand the Cameron signing.
He used to be an excellent outfielder. I imagine those days are well behind him.
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
Minor league contract, very little money, has played CF
I don’t see what the harm is in bringing him in and seeing if he’s healthier/in better shape/whatever. Because if the answer is no, he’s gone. Who is he blocking?
I dont think that the nats signed Cameron to cut him
if he is healthy, he will be on the team. He is like Laynce Nix last year, the nats had no plans of Nix not being on the MLB team
MOAR SEVERINO!
Except that Nix had a pretty decent year in 2010, albeit in limited action
Cameron is 39 and has been in steep decline for a while. I don’t know why you would think that the Nationals are locked up on him.
#extendZim
ankiel hasnt had a wrc+ above 100 since 2008
which also looks like his only offensively good full season in the majors. his career norms do not provide offensive value. this may be overly gripey but an organization that struggled to get timely hitting while dunn and hammer were in the lineup is going to be hurting at the plate with the current cast on the roster. As we have seen, only a couple of players will probably be raking at a time and theyll be pitched around since the whole league will know the the bottom of the order is full of easy outs
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man
I count two "easy outs" in the lineup
Desmond and Bernadina. I’ve seen the Nationals put a lineup on the field that (no lie) had four or five guys below the Mendoza Line. I’m not really worried about that this year.
I wouldn't dismiss Flores so quickly
DJ is known to use his backup catcher in pinch hitting roles, so it’s not like Flores will only play a-game-or-maybe-two a week.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
And his VWL stats are encouraging that he might have got his groove back.
Obviously, we don’t know if it will translate to improved MLB stats, but it is worth hoping for.
#extendZim
I don't think any of his minor league stats translated, but when given the chance, his MLB stats were great....
therefore, if the VWL stats prove anything, it’s that he’s healthy. And a healthy Flores just might be the starter again….
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."
by cat daddy3000 on Jan 31, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
from what games I followed and were translated, he had a good arm, caught basestealers, and called a good game
no idea on his blocker capabilities…
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."
by cat daddy3000 on Jan 31, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know
I think the only way that Flores is the starter is if Ramos slumps big time. Maybe we’ll be lucky and have an enormous glut of talent behind the plate.
#extendZim
I'd just like a real emergency catcher, so whoever is not starting could still PH, or enter the game regularly...
I just expect them to choose who is playing better, but I agree it would take a somewhat prolonged slump from Ramos, (and a weak ST) for them to make a move.
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."
by cat daddy3000 on Jan 31, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
"Mr. Dombrowski, I have Mr. Rizzo on the phone"
although I bet the Tigers will want more than a bag of balls for Brandon Inge, even with his declining bat and range, to protect against the misbegotten inspired idea of playing Cabrera at 3B doesn’t pan out …
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
it's a hard position to fill. Shouldn't want to play much, but not be totally useless...
which is true of most real backup catchers….
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."
by cat daddy3000 on Feb 1, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Except this is an emergency catcher
who should (especially in these days of four or five-man benches) be able to play multiple positions. Werth and Harper are the obvious candidates, having played the position extensively in amateurs/MiLB before being moved to the OF, but you’d prefer it to be one of your bench guys. I mentioned Inge half-facetiously, but he can play 3B and OF as well as C (although he’s stated his current distaste for the position), so is the prototypical 3rd/emergency catcher. Eli Marerro was another.
Then, of course, for (former) Baltimore fans, there’s Lenn Sakata, who was the beneficiary of Tippy Martinez’ 3 pick-offs in one inning in 1983 …
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
harper....
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man
by TJL on Feb 1, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure the emergency catcher would be Werth
He was drafted as a catcher and didn’t shift to full time OF until 2003.
he'd look good in a mask and shinguards....
"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."
by cat daddy3000 on Feb 1, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone have a projection for Espinosa this year?
I have him on my fantasy team. He did great for me last year. Will he continue to have success?
18 today, 17 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
Fangraphs and Zips have projections out
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=9219&position=2B
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/oracle/discussion/2012_zips_projections_washington_nationals
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
He still he needs to take the at bats.
So I tend to ignore projections.
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
Love him, he's with us for years to come..
BHarper3407:
Cowboys cowboys cowboys for life!!! I hate those redskins!Hah
Well, he has the NFC East mutual loathing down
now he just has to ditch “America’s Team” for a certain Super Bowl participant …
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
I like Bryce a little more today for not taking S from people:
RT @BHarper3407: Cowboys cowboys cowboys for life!!! I hate those redskins!Hah
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 31, 2012 4:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
BHarper3407:
I love my Nationals and always will be faithful to them, but ill always be a cowboys fan at heart! Come on what do you expect!
Maybe to like a team closer to his home in Las Vegas?
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
I can't believe people are ragging on a 19yo kid for rooting for the teams he grew up rooting for
Come ON, spring training – save us from this silliness so we can return to more important silliness!
Wait till he actually lives in DC, then he might pick up being a fan of DC teams
Aim for the head baby Jesus
I have slowly but surely dropped all of my Atlanta teams and adopted all local teams since my move to the area…..but I will NEVER support the Burgundy and Gold till they change their nickname. Go Falcons!
Watch your step on that pc path; it's apt to be tricky
The falcon is a bird of prey – a carnivore, no less. Goodness, violence! Couldn’t they find a vegetarian bird? How about “cardinals”?
Wait, Stanford tried that. Ended up with “cardinal.” A color.
Damn it all, purity is mighty elusive – and boring.
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Show me someone who's truly offended by naming a team after a bird of prey
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds

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