Washington Nationals: This Week In Nats, Prince Fielder Rumors, Quotes, Links.
Contrary to what many were thinking, ESPN.com's Buster Olney wrote Saturday that he didn't see the Chicago Cubs' acquisition of first baseman Anthony Rizzo as an impediment to the team's pursuit of 27-year-old slugger Prince Fielder. "Rizzo costs pennies and Prince Fielder costs tens of millions," the ESPN.com writer noted, "so the acquisition of Rizzo really has zero impact on whether the Cubs were to pursue Fielder." The ESPN analyst says he sees Seattle as the team with, "... the most willingness to pay big."
The question there, as it has been all along is whether or not Fielder wants to play for a team that's not considered a contended even with the offensive contributions of the Milwaukee Brewers' '02 1st Round pick. ESPN.com's Mr. Olney's last comments on the rumored talks between the Washington Nationals, Fielder and his agent Scott Boras came Friday night, when he wrote on Twitter (@Buster_ESPN) that, "There is great skepticism about a very long-term deal with Fielder in some corners of the Nats' [organization]. Owners' votes count the most, of course."
Mr. Olney's colleague at ESPN, and the former Nationals' GM, Jim Bowden too pointed to the decision-making process in Washington as the holdup in what he said were "serious discussions" with Scott Boras about Fielder. In a discussion of the situation on the one-time Nats' GM's MLB Network Radio show he said, "Mike Rizzo's prepared to step up and get this thing done, but this is Ted Lerner's baseball team, and they do everything by a vote with a board of directors and the board of directors are mixed."
Washington Post writer Thomas Boswell wrote about the Nationals' relative inactivity just before the trade for Gio Gonzalez was made and suggested, in the article entitled, "Nationals have more cash coming in, but refuse to spend it", that what was slowing the decision-making process in Washington was the fact that, "... real-estate gurus are giving the baseball lifers their opinion again on the value of ballplayers and the wisdom of deals." When the general manager who "... has taken your pitching staff from the 28th-best ERA in baseball (5.00) to seventh-best (3.58)," and restocked the barren organization inherited from Montreal wants to trade some of those pitchers for a top-of-the-rotation arm, the WaPost writer argued, you do it, which the Nationals did.
The process of getting it done, however, is difficult according to the Washington Post writer because rather than trust the baseball people, they have them, "Start from zero and build an ironclad logical case, full of slides and graphics, so Ted will cut the check. Many who’ve worked for the Nats say the same thing, in the same words: Their toughest negotiation isn’t with agent Scott Boras but with Ted Lerner." Scott Boras, of course, has made clear that he thinks the negotiations for free agents like Prince Fielder should take place with interested teams' owners.
"I think that these are ownership decisions," Boras said during an MLB Network Radio interview before the Winter Meetings, "There are certainly owners who come out and meet with us and talk to us about their franchise and go through things. We're rather methodical about this. The player wants to hear as much information as he can and certainly Prince wants to make a good decision for he and his family." The Nationals, according to a source quoted by Baltimore Sun writer Dan Connolly and later according to sources quoted by MLB.com's Bill Ladson, did meet with Fielder and his agent recently, most likely when they traveled to visit interested owners around the majors.
Washington Post writer Dave Sheinin, in his own MLB Network Radio interview last week agreed that, "If this is going on, it's going on largely between Scott Boras and Ted Lerner and we're not going to hear anything." The WaPost writer, however, told MLB Network Radio hosts Jim Duquette and Kevin Kennedy he thought Rizzo was likely part of any discussions. "I don't think Ted Lerner's going to cut out his GM from this discussion," Mr. Sheinin said, "especially when a guy like Mike Rizzo has such a strong relationship with Scott Boras. I don't mean to suggest that Rizzo's not involved at all, but Boras goes where the money is."
Rizzo, in Washington Times' writer Amanda Comak's article entitled, "Nats GM Mike Rizzo says nothing has changed with regard to Prince Fielder", would only say that in spite of reports that the Nationals were the frontrunners for Fielder, "... we haven’t gone beyond where we were at since the winter meetings." Rizzo also pointed to Adam LaRoche and Michael Morse as the reasons he's repeatedly said, "We feel that we’re settled at that position."
Whether Rizzo maintains this position to calm expectations as a deal is discussed as the former Nats' GM suggested yesterday, or because the Nationals are really planning to stick with LaRoche or aren't willing to give Fielder the long-term deal he wants and haven't budged since first meeting with the first baseman's agent, who knows?
If the Nats actually did make an offer, "we haven't gone beyond where we were at since the winter meetings," could just mean they're waiting for the asking price to come down to what they're willing to offer. The lack of any other competitive offer could leave the Nationals as the frontrunners, or they could be getting used to drive up the price as some have suggested in every free agent discussion involving the Nats since they first showed a willingness to spend with the offers to Mark Teixeira and the deal with Jayson Werth...
Or maybe Fielder and Boras are just waiting to see if another suitor emerges. CBSSports.com's Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) did say, after all, that the Rangers, "still have one eye on Prince," though a deal with Yu Darvish would "lessen" the possibility of Texas getting involved...
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“The process of getting it done, however, is difficult according to the Washington Post writer because rather than trust the baseball people, they have them, “Start from zero and build an ironclad logical case, full of slides and graphics, so Ted will cut the check.”
This seems like a good idea to me. If you can’t clearly communicate the value of signing a player then why would any owner sign that check? Shouldn’t be that difficult to put together that case given the relative abundance of baseball statistics and comparable signings from recent history.
Why? Just wondering. You're not the first person to say so of course...
What I read is Boswell accurately predicting/hinting that the Gio trade was in the works, while hinting that there were holdups with discussions of free agent signings and trades due to the process the Nats’ owners demand. He’s definitely putting the team on the spot. Just wonder why you think so?
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 8, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
For me, it was the weird contrast with what he said in his chat two days before that
In the chat he said Rizzo is the guy making deals, and then in the columns it’s the meddling Lerners mucking things up. He essentially contradicted himself in just 48 hours.
That’s what made Boswell come off as an idiot to me.
Will have to go reread the chat...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 9, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
One thing to remember
Boswell is a Columnist. While he writes intelligently about baseball, he’s also trying to provoke thought, reactions & commentary from his readers. The reaction to his recent “Lerners’ are getting in the way” column has created a firestorm across the Natosphere, undoubtedly bringing more web hits on the WaPo site as more people go in to read the piece. Job well done by Boswell, imo.
"Things are going great, and they're only gettin' better..." Timbuk3
With all due respect to Buster Olney...
the Cubs aren’t going to going after Prince Fielder. Epstein and Hoyer are going for a rebuild with younger players. Grizzled veterans will be Ryan Dempster, Reed Johnson, Marlon Byrd if they don’t trade him, and Kerry Wood if they re-sign him. Most of the acquistions have been younger, less expensive players plus a restocking the farm system. Unless, the other teams in the NL Central implode this season, the Cubs are about two years away from being contenders. Does Fielder want to wait that long ?
The Cubs are eating most of Zambrano’s contract . If they manage to convince some team (hello, Orioles!) to take Soriano, they’ll be eating most of that contract too. That doesn’t leave money for Fielder.
"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"--The Brain
Prince is 27
So assuming you have him from 30-33, its not impossible.
But yes, I agree.
I think they’d prefer Votto in a few years
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
I think
I’d prefer votto in a few years for the Nats
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
A 31-going-on-32 year old Votto,
in two years, rather than a 27-year-old Fielder NOW?
I don’t see that.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
my girlfriends sisters ex husband told me that he has a friend who knows the lerner family. his friend said the deal with fielder is almost if not already done.
theres no such thing as stupid questions...only stupid people
by hailyeah on Jan 8, 2012 6:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Is your girlfriend's sister's ex-husband's friend of a friend of the Lerner family's friend a reliable source?
[runs to Twitter with rumor]
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Jan 8, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds pretty firm to me.
Pop the champagne!
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
Really..
I hope sooo..announcement Tom? I really hope so…season tickets now ;j ?
by Sportzxpert on Jan 8, 2012 9:24 PM EST via Android app reply actions

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