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Washington Nationals' Pitchers And Catchers Report: 2012 Pitching Preview.

"The Nationals expecting great things from this group in 2012." - @NationalsPR on Twitter. The Washington Nationals pitchers and catchers report today. (Photo courtesy and © @NationalsPR)

The Washington Nationals came up with the right package to get 26-year-old lefty Gio Gonzalez in a trade with the Oakland A's this winter. The Nats then waited until 28-year-old right-handed free agent Edwin Jackson came around to accepting a one-year deal and signed him too. The moves added two relatively young two-hundred-inning-plus arms to a rotation that before then was made up of an '09 no.1 overall pick on an innings limit after Tommy John; a 2nd Round pick in his second year back following the same procedure; a one-time Yankee with a surgically-repaired shoulder; an '07 1st Round pick who's yet to have sustained success at the major league level; a left-handed ground ball pitcher who was the closest thing to a sure-thing bet for 30+ starts and two over-achieving arms who'd gotten their first taste of major league action the previous September...

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"We felt that we had an innings-shortage and if you do the research, out of the eight playoff teams last year, six of those eight teams had two 200+ innings pitchers on the team," D.C. GM Mike Rizzo told reporters after Jackson signed. The Phillies had Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels throw two-hundred-plus. The Brewers had three with Randy Wolf, Yovani Gallardo and Shaun Marcum all over 200.0 IP. Daniel Hudson, Ian Kennedy and Joe Saunders all reached 200 IP for the D-Backs. The Rangers had C.J. Wilson and Colby Lewis. James Shields and David Price for the Rays. The Tigers had Justin Verlander and the help of 70.1 of the 216.1 IP Doug Fister threw between Detroit and Seattle.

The Nationals were led in innings pitched by left-hander John Lannan, who threw 184.2 IP. In 2010 Livan Hernandez threw 211.2 IP for Washington. Lannan was the only pitcher to reach two-hundred innings in '09. Before that you have to go back to 2005 when both Esteban Loaiza and Hernandez topped 200.0 IP for the inaugural Nationals. "We felt that we had an innings-shortage," Rizzo said again, so they added Jackson, who's reached 200.0 IP in two of the last three seasons, falling a third of an inning short last year, and Gio Gonzalez who's thrown 200+ in each of the last two seasons. "And this not only fixes the innings-shortage, it also gives us a quality standard that we feel can compete with any team in the division," Rizzo said.

A rotation that will consist of five pitchers on Opening Day from a list that includes Stephen Strasburg, Gio Gonzalez, Jordan Zimmermann, Edwin Jackson, Chien-Ming Wang, John Lannan, Ross Detwiler, Tom Gorzelanny, Craig Stammen, 2011 3rd Round pick Matt Purke and Yunesky Maya. A bullpen that will likely include some of the starters left out of the rotation plus Drew Storen, Henry Rodriguez, Tyler Clippard, Sean Burnett, Brad Lidge, Ryan Mattheus, Chad Durbin, Rafael Martin, Atahualpo Severino and Ryan Perry depending on how things sort themselves out this Spring. Pitchers and catchers officially report on Sunday morning. The talent assembled, the Nats' GM told reporters this winter, "... is in the realm of something that we've never had here before."

"We're certainly going to have good competition in Spring Training," the general manager told reporters when asked about the amount of pitchers vying for five spots on Opening Day, "And we're going to bring the best twenty-five north with us."

• Here's A Quick Look At The Pitchers Scheduled To Report To Viera, FL Today:

Austin Bibens-Dirx: 26 yo, 6'2'', 190lb, RHP (Non-Roster) - Signed to a minor league deal after a 2011 season at Double and Triple-A in the Chicago Cubs' system in which he was (6-7) with a 5.94 ERA in 29 G, 22 GS and 130.1 IP over which he walked 40 (2.76 BB/9) and struck out 91 (6.28 K/9). Bibens-Dirx was (7-3) with a 2.19 ERA, 22 walks and 51 K's in 14 G, 13 GS and 78.0 IP for the Aguilas del Zulia in the Liga Venezuela Beisbol Profesional this winter.

Sean Burnett: 29 yo, 6'1'', 200lb, LHP - After an 8.86 K/9, 2.86 BB/9, 2.14 ERA, 2.73 FIP, +1.4 fWAR 2010 campaign, the former Pittsburgh Pirates' 1st Round pick was back to being the 3.80 ERA/4.40 FIP he's been for most of his career, finishing the 2011 season with a 3.81 ERA, a 4.51 FIP, 21 BB (3.34 BB/9) and 33 K's (5.24 K/9) in 69 G and 59.2 IP. A year after holding right-handed hitters to a .182/.253/.234 line in 60 games and 151 PA's, with lefties posting a .273/.327/.384 line in 63 games and 110 PA's against, Burnett had a .297/.373/.415 slash against RHB and a .200/.267/.326 line against LHB in 2011.

Tyler Clippard: 27 yo, 6'0'', 200lb, RHP - Clippard, the Nats' set-up man and 2011 All-Star rep was (3-0) with a 1.83 ERA, 3.17 FIP, 26 walks (2.65 BB/9) and 104 K's (10.60 K/9) in 72 G and 88.1 IP in 2011. Opposing hitters had a .197 BABIP against Clippard last season, and his 95.6 LOB% was baseball's best amongst qualified relievers. Random Quote: "We have Tyler Clippard. He throws an invisi-ball. No one can hit him." - Michael Morse.

Ross Detwiler: 25 yo, 6'5'', 185lb, LHP - The Nationals' 1st Round pick from 2007 seemed to find himself and finally get comfortable on the mound at the end of the 2011 season with Davey Johnson handling the left-hander carefully all year. In 15 games, 10 of them starts, Detwiler had a 3.00 ERA, a 4.21 FIP, 20 walks (2.73 BB/9) and 41 K's (5.59 K/9) in 66.0 IP. You might hear that he's out of options a few times this Spring. Random Quote: "Young pitchers with great promise can take longer. I know [Detwiler] had a number of starts last year, but what he's done this year, starting once, being in the bullpen and then getting back in the rotation, he's pitched against some good-hitting ballclubs and done okay. Held his head above water." - Davey Johnson.

Chad Durbin: 34 yo, 6'2'', 225lb, RHP (Non-Roster) - Chad Durbin pitched for the Cleveland Indians in 2011, going (2-2) with a 5.53 ERA, 4.85 FIP, 26 walks (3.42 BB/9) and 59 K's (7.77 K/9) in 56 games and 68.1 IP. The Nationals signed Durbin to a minor league deal on February 1st. The 12-year MLB veteran will be competing for one of the few open spots in the Nationals' bullpen.

Jeff Fulchino: 32 yo, 6'5'', 285lb, RHP (Non-Roster) - The Nationals signed the 32-year-old former '01 Florida Marlins' 8th Round pick Jeff Fulchino in mid-December. The right-hander had a combined 5.71 ERA, a 4.90 FIP, 22 walks (5.71 BB/9) and 33 K's (8.57 K/9) in 39 games and 34.2 IP for the Astros and Padres in 2011.

Gio Gonzalez: 26 yo, 6'0'', 205lb, LHP - Acquired along with RHP Robert Gilliam in a 12/23/11 trade with the Oakland A's, Gio Gonzalez is coming off a 2011 season in which he was (16-12) with a 3.12 ERA, 3.64 FIP, a league-leading 91 walks (4.05 BB/9) and 197 K's (8.78 K/9) in 32 starts and 202.0 IP. The Nationals parted with three of their Top 10 prospects on Baseball America's 2011 list in order to get Gonzalez, a pitcher D.C. GM Mike Rizzo described as, "... a front-line starter with glowing credentials, the vast majority of which were achieved before his 26th birthday." The Nats' general manager thinks he'll slot in nicely between power right-handers Stephen Strasburg and Jordan Zimmermann at the top of the Nats' rotation.

Tom Gorzelanny: 29 yo, 6'2'', 210lb, LHP - Tom Gorzelanny was the left-handed starter the Nationals acquired last winter in a 3-for-1 deal with the Chicago Cubs. Gorzelanny started the season in the Nats' rotation but moved to the pen when the Nationals decided to make Ross Detwiler a starter again. In 30 games, 15 starts and 105.0 IP last season, the seven-year veteran had a 4.03 ERA, a 4.19 FIP, 33 walks (2.83 BB/9) and 95 K's (8.14 K/9). Gorzelanny's expected to end up being Davey Johnson's left-handed long-man out of the pen in 2012. In 22.1 IP out of the pen in 2011, Gorzelanny had a 2.42 ERA, a 2.76 FIP, 8.06 K/9 and 2.42 BB/9. Random Quote: "I really like Gorzelanny, Gorzelanny doesn't have anything to prove to me." - Davey Johnson.

Edwin Jackson: 28 yo, 6'3'', 205lb, RHP - The Nationals signed Edwin Jackson to a one-year/$11M dollar deal, adding the 9-year-veteran after a 2011 season spent with the White Sox and Cardinals in which the right-hander had a 3.79 ERA, 3.55 FIP, 62 walks (2.79 BB/9), 148 K's (6.67 K/9) and a (12-9) record in 32 games, 31 GS and 199.2 IP. Jackson joined the eventual World Series champion Cardinals after a late-July trade with the Blue Jays and was (1-1) in the postseason with St. Louis (3-1) in games Jackson started. Random Quote: "We're going to make a few tweaks to his delivery. Last year he was a different pitcher out of the windup than he was from the stretch. We feel that there [are] certain tweaks we can make to his delivery that will make him more difficult to see." - Mike Rizzo on Edwin Jackson.

Waldis Joaquin: 25 yo, 6'0'', 240lb, RHP (Non-Roster) - Signed as a free agent in mid-December, Waldis Joaquin, a former San Francisco Giants' prospect with 21.2 IP at the major league level on his resume, is (1-0) with a 5.40 ERA, 4.87 FIP, 17 walks (4.26 BB/9) and 17 K's (4.26 K/9) in 19 appearances. In six minor league seasons, Joaquin is (13-13) with a 3.50 ERA, 135 walks (4.14 BB/9) and 262 K's (8.04 K/9) in 167 games, 26 starts and 293.1 IP.

Cole Kimball: 26 yo, 6'3'', 225lb, RHP - After a strong Spring, Cole Kimball made his MLB debut in mid-May 2011, but he pitched in just 12 games before having season-ending surgery to repair what turned out to be a torn rotator cuff in his right shoulder. Kimball had a 1.93 ERA, a 4.03 FIP, 11 walks and 11 K's in 14.0 IP before the injury. Kimball's best-case scenario has him returning to the mound by the All-Star break. He was claimed off waivers by the Blue Jays and then re-claimed by the Nats this winter.

John Lannan: 27 yo, 6'4'', 215lb, LHP - The Washington Nationals' '05 11th Round pick lost his arbitration case with the Nats and saw his name appear in rumors on the same day this winter that the Nationals signed Edwin Jackson to a free agent deal. Lannan was given a $5M dollar one-year deal by the Nationals. In his 5th MLB season, Lannan was (10-13) with a 3.70 ERA, 4.28 FIP, 76 walks (3.70 BB/9) and 106 K's (5.17 K/9) in 33 GS and 184.2 IP. Will Lannan still be a National when the 2012 season begins? Several reports say he's being shopped around the league, but the Nats are expected to see what they have this Spring before making any moves. Random Quote: "[Lannan] still has a tendency to just kind of overthrow. He gets in a groove in [the 2nd, 3rd and 4th] where he starts pitching, but sometimes he tries to power the ball and his misses start coming up and he usually does that early in the ball game." - Davey Johnson.

Brad Lidge: 35 yo, 6'5'', 215lb, RHP - Another former Phillie, Brad Lidge signed a one-year/$1M dollar deal after failing to find an offer from a team that thought he could still close games at the major league level. The veteran of 10 MLB seasons, six with Houston and four with Philadelphia, Lidge brings a veteran presence to Washington's bullpen to work alongside young right-handers Drew Storen, Tyler Clippard and Henry Rodriguez. After recovering from a strained right posterior rotator cuff last year, the right-hander was (0-2) with a save, a 1.40 ERA, 2.82 FIP, 13 walks (6.05 BB/9) and 23 K's (10.71 K/9) in 25 games and 19.1 IP for the Phillies. Random Quote: "This is a guy that brings us a vast amount of knowledge about how to pitch back-ends of the game. He'll rub off on Storen and Clippard and H-Rod, Henry Rodriguez, and [Ryan] Mattheus." - Mike Rizzo on Brad Lidge on ESPN980.

Rafael Martin: 27 yo, 6'2'', 195lb, RHP (Non-Roster) - When 27-year-old right-hander Rafael Martin signed with the Nationals in February of 2010, ESPN.com's Jorge Arangure predicted that the reliever who'd previously pitched for the Saraperos de Saltillo in the Mexican League might end up in a set-up role one day, perhaps working alongside Drew Storen in a future Nats' bullpen. Martin pitched at Class-A Potomac last year, where he was (1-0) with a 1.13 ERA, 1.45 WHIP, two walks (2.25 BB/9) and 10 K's in 8.0 IP, Double-A Harrisburg, where he was (4-1) with 13 saves, a 1.77 ERA, 2.11 FIP, nine walks and 44 K's in 32 games and 35.2 IP and then went to the Arizona Fall League where he walked six and K'd nine in 10 games and 12.0 IP.

Ryan Mattheus: 28 yo, 6'3'', 215lb, RHP - Acquired along with RHP Robinson Fabian in the July '09 trade the sent left-handed reliever Joe Beimel to Colorado, Ryan Mattheus, a Rockies' '03 19th Round pick, made his MLB debut this past June. Mattheus was (2-2) with a 2.81 ERA, 4.28 FIP, 15 walks (4.22 BB/9) and 12 K's (3.38 K/9) in 35 games and 32.0 IP before he was shut down in August with a "tired" shoulder. The right-hander returned to make three appearances late in the season. Syracuse or D.C. to start the season? Davey Johnson's a fan. Random Quote: "You just gotta ignite, the light, and let it shine. Just own the night like the 4th of July." - Katy Perry

Yunesky Maya: 30 yo, 5'11'', 170lb RHP - In 10 games, five starts and 32.2 IP for the Nationals last season, Cuban-born right-hander Yunesky Maya was (1-1) with a 5.23 ERA, 4.40 FIP, 10 walks (2.76 BB/9) and 15 K's (4.13 K/9). In 22 starts and 129.2 IP at Triple-A Syracuse, Maya was (4-9) with a 5.00 ERA, 3.86 FIP, 28 walks (1.84 BB/9) and 98 K's (6.80 K/9). The "first major international signing" by D.C. GM Mike Rizzo's front office hasn't worked out too well thus far. There's a chance he ends up in the bullpen, but there are likely some more Syracuse starts in his future.

Ryan Perry: 25 yo, 6'4'', 200lb RHP - Right-hander Collin Balester was dealt to Detroit this past December and Washington received Tigers' '08 1st Round pick Ryan Perry in the swap of stalled right-handers. Perry was (2-0) with a 5.35 ERA, 3.94 FIP, 21 walks (5.11 BB/9) and 24 K's (5.84 K/9) for the Tigers in 2011. More importantly for the Nationals, Perry has a remaining option so he can be sent down to Triple-A Syracuse if he doesn't surprise a lot of people and earn a spot in the pen on Opening Day (Balester had no options remaining). A one-time closer-candidate, Perry's struggled with control, walking 4.57 BB/9 so far in 161.1 IP in the majors.

Matt Purke: 21 yo, 6'4'', 180lb, LHP - The Nationals' 2011 3rd Round pick out of TCU is a left-hander D.C. GM Mike Rizzo described in an ESPN980 interview last summer as a, "... polished accomplished pitcher," who, "... really performed outstandingly well from his high school days through his freshman and sophomore year at TCU." Purke said he'd patterned himself after left-handers like Clayton Kershaw and Cole Hamels when the Nationals introduced the lefty to the nation's capital last August. Purke was hit hard early in his first pro action in the Arizona Fall League, but rebounded with a few strong outings at the end of the AFL season. Purke will be in camp with the big club early as a result of the well-above slot 4-year/$4.15M dollar major league deal he signed.

Henry Rodriguez: 24 yo, 6'0'', 220lb, RHP - Acquired from the A's in the December 2010 trade that sent Josh Willingham to Oakland, Henry Rodriguez was as advertised in 2011, leading the Majors in wild pitches (w/ 14), striking out 70 (9.59 K/9) and walking 45 (6.17 BB/9) in 59 games and 65.2 IP over which he had a 3.56 ERA and a 3.14 FIP. Rodriguez lasted the entire season in the majors last year, and is expected to be part of the Nationals' 2012 bullpen. Random Quote: "I think he's maturing into either a set-up guy or [possible] closer down the line, so I'm pleased at how he's progressing." - Davey Johnson on Henry Rodriguez.

Atahualpa Severino: 27 yo, 5'9'', 170lb, LHP - Signed as an amateur free agent by the Montreal Expos in 2004, Atahualpa Severino worked his way up over six seasons in the Expos/Nationals' system in which he was (27-11) with a 2.93 ERA in 203 games and 16 GS before making his MLB debut this past on September 6th. (1-2) with a save, a 4.50 ERA, 3.98 FIP, 23 walks (6.47 BB/9) and 38 K's (10.69 K/9) in 32.0 IP at Triple-A Syracuse, Severino was (1-0) in six games and 4.2 IP with the Nationals.

Craig Stammen: 27 yo, 6'3'', 200lb, RHP - The Versailles, Ohio-born, University-of-Dayton-educated Craig Stammen made 38 starts for the Nationals between 2009-10, but he spent the majority of the 2011 season at Triple-A Syracuse where the right-hander was (10-7) in 25 G, 24 GS and 142.0 IP. Stammen had a 4.75 ERA, 3.93 FIP, 40 walks (2.54 BB/9) and 127 K's (10.45 K/9) for the Chiefs and a 0.87 ERA, 1.86 FIP, 4 walks and 12 K's in 10.1 IP for the Nationals. Can he win a spot in the bullpen this season, or is Stammen headed back to Syracuse for another year of starting and waiting for an opportunity at the major league level?

Drew Storen: 24 yo, 6'2'', 180lb, RHP - The Nationals' second 1st Round pick in 2009 saved 43 games, walked 20 batters (2.39 BB/9), struck out 74 (8.84 K/9) and posted a 2.75 ERA and a 3.32 FIP in his second major league season. The former Stanford Cardinal closer claimed the Nats' ninth-inning job and combined with Tyler Clippard to form one of the better bullpens in baseball. 127 games and 130.2 IP into his career, the right-hander has a 3.10 ERA, 3.29 FIP, 8.68 K/9 and 2.89 BB/9. Random Quote: "Our entire bullpen is almost borderline overkill. That's what's kind of fun about it." - Drew Storen on 106.7 the FAN in D.C.

Stephen Strasburg: 23 yo, 6'4'', 220lb, RHP - The no.1 overall pick worked his way back to the majors in 2011 following Tommy John surgery in 2010. In five starts and 24.0 IP last year, the right-hander had a 1.50 ERA, a 1.28 FIP, two walks (0.75 BB/9) and 24 K's (9.00 K/9). Strasburg is (6-4) with a 2.54 ERA, 1.87 FIP, 19 walks (1.86 BB/9) and 116 K's (11.35 K/9) since making his MLB debut in June of 2010, and he's entering his third pro season 100% healthy though he'll be on what is expected to be a 160-inning limit in his first full year back following surgery. Random Quote: " I mean, somebody came up with this idea, 'Maybe you'll save [Strasburg's] innings if you don't have him no. 1 on this club [in 2012].' How am I going to do that? You guys would run me out of town wouldn't you?" - Davey Johnson.

Chien-Ming Wang: 31 yo, 6'3'', 230lb RHP - The shoulder injury seems to finally be behind two-time 19-game winner Chien-Ming Wang, who was confident enough in his surgically-repaired right arm to thrown in the Taiwan All-Star Series for his home country this winter. Wang enters camp 100% healthy and ready to go from the start this season for the first time in years. Wang's the favorite to claim the fifth spot in the rotation behind Strasburg, Gonzalez, Zimmermann and Jackson. Will he be able to make it through an entire season on the mound for the first time since 2009? Wang's (59-29) in 120 games and 115 career starts with a 4.15 ERA, 4.04 FIP, 4.11 K/9 and 2.58 BB/9 so far in six major league seasons, five of them with NY's Yankees. Random Quote: "If you'd seen him throw in December," the Nats' manager continued, "and where he is right now, it's just...my hat goes off to him, he worked hard and he's a dominant pitcher. He looks great." - Davey Johnson on Chien-Ming Wang.

Jordan Zimmermann: Before the 2011 season, D.C. GM Mike Rizzo told MLB.com's Bill Ladson that '07 2nd Round pick Jordan Zimmermann, "... is going to turn into the pitcher we think he is and 14 other clubs think he is. He is the guy that is in demand every time we try to make a trade." With an (8-11) season in which he posted a 3.18 ERA, 3.16 FIP, 31 walks and 124 K's in 26 starts and 161.1 IP, the 25-year-old right-hander established himself as a top of the rotation starter that will combine with Strasburg and Gio Gonzalez to give the Nats three power arms that can compete with the best in baseball. All from a player Rizzo and scouting director Kris Kline had to convince former D.C. GM Jim Bowden to draft.

• Pitchers and catchers report today. The 2012 season can't start soon enough.

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+ chigliak........

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 19, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice work...

Now what to do about the Cameron retirement. It really leaves a hole in the middle of the lineu………….GOTCHA!

by RoscoeNats on Feb 19, 2012 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe we can get a reality show on MLBN.

“Where in the World is a Nats Center Fielder?”

by RoscoeNats on Feb 19, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Opens a bench spot for J-Max if the Yanks cut him

This would make Ms. Doghouse and a number of other fans happy. I think having Maxwell as the #25 guy on the roster for defense, pinch running and the occasional start against LHP would be OK … IF his shoulder is healthy. Really, I was already of the opinion that I’d rather have Maxwell than Cameron from day 1 – the only real question is whether he makes the Yankees.

by d_c_guy on Feb 19, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

it's a little difficult getting revved up again about a player that previously, had a lot of revving wasted upon...

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 19, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm pulling for Xavier Paul!

I hope he makes the club out of camp. I was classmates with his sister in Louisiana. In any case, Cameron’s retirement certainly doesn’t hurt his chances! Also, skill wise, I would compare him to J-Max (except he’s currently signed with the Curly W instead of the Evil Empire).

by DC_Dodger on Feb 19, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

46...and I was so excited about today...

That gives me 40 days to make the move to D.C.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Feb 19, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Still a celebration though

Celebrating by having the Strasmas game (on MASN) on the tube. Geez, he has unbelievable stuff. And looked even better last year when he came back. C’mon, Opening Day!

by d_c_guy on Feb 19, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

knock that northern Jersey dirt off you shoes, mister!

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"

by jbg2772 on Feb 19, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I moved to SW from SE a year ago and it rocks....

you can be blocks from the stadium for very reasonable prices …. all the 5 dollar tickets you can handle…. PS thanks for doing a top job…this is my first place for baseball news and it has kept me pumped for the new season all winter ! keep it up :)

by NewJerseyAveSE on Feb 19, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

MOVING!?!....

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 20, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

For those who can't get enough Stras

They are airing his debut again, as we speak, on MASN.

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 19, 2012 2:30 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Some thoughts:

First, Patrick, thanks so much for all the work and knowledge that went into this piece.

Burnett; I argued here after his last deal that it was stupid, and I’m afraid that (for once) I was right. RPs are so fungible, especially 30+ year olds who had an anomalous season as the basis for the contract.

Clippard: Wow. Check out his profile on FG. Talk about why so few relievers are in the HOF… because most are failed starters. Which is not to knock on Clip, cause he is really, really good as an RP, which most failed starters can’t end up being. Two, WAR is really stupid for relievers. In ‘09, he (as usual for a RP) way “outperformed” his FIP, but that’s because, well, RPs beat their FIPs on a regular basis, so this is what he was “worth” after 60.1 innings of 2.61 ERA ball: ZERO. Right… and another wow: TWICE he had a sub-.200 babip. Christ, that is unreal. The only knock is that his LOB, while generally awesome, was unrepeatable from last year. NO ONE can sustain 95.6%, no Mo, no Clippard in his other RP years, no one. But he should still be great.

Non-roster invitees are wasting their time: who in the hell can crack either rotation or bullpen considering how packed they both are? Maybe call the Astros…

Detwiler: 5.59 K/9.

Gio: really like him, but wish Zim(nn) got the second slot because he deserves it, IMOH. Or is it some handedness thing? Do they care about that with the rotation like they do with the lineup? On the plus side, all the BB talk is important but so is the fact that, as per Tango’s research, Ks matter more.

Gorzo: damn, didn’t realize how well he did in relief…

Kimball’s only good MiLB time was as a 24 year old at AA, and in an epitome of SSS, his MLB ERA was surely helped by a ZERO HR/FB %. Or maybe he just never will allow a homer. Of course, he could be finally filling great potential, I’m just saying 12 innings and good stuff at AA at 24 aren’t making me sure that when he gets back he’ll be Mo.

Taking the 5th on Lannan, even though I have actually upped my opinion on him in recent posts… he seems to be a touchy subject for many.

Did you see Lidge’s (SSS) BB% from last year? Not to say that I’m not pleased with him for $1 mil./1 year…

Never heard of Martin but very intriguing…

Mattheus has pitched 94 innings over the last three years (none of them because of a single whopper like TJ), but his ERA/FIP gap actually seems possibly legit if we take into account his many MiLB inning’s K/BB rather than his crazy bad MLB numbers over 32 innings. That, or he just got lucky because he can’t handle MLBers in terms of actual talent. I’m going with the optimistic premise A here, but I do worry about his health.

I saw Maya’s debut. Unfortunately, it was a harbinger, and something I hope more recent FO moves have shown to be the decisions of the past.

H-Rod: I like the kid, but does Davey have early dementia? “Maturing” into a possible closer with a 6.17 BB%???

I forgot who here has the “Moar Severino” tag, but I’m ignorant, so could you fill me in on what that means?

As much as I think the over-slotting strategy was brilliant, I’m glad they didn’t do it to the point that they didn’t get Storen as compensation for not signing their 1st rounder the year before.

I feel blessed to have been here for the first Strasmus.

Wang wouldn’t have been signed for 4+ million if we knew we’d get Gio and Jackson. I know he got better, but I’m not all in.

How can it be that J. Zim. is my man-crush since he went 8-11 last year?

by William.Hatheway on Feb 19, 2012 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

MOAR Severino means exactly what you think it means.

Said poster wants to see MOAR Atahaualpa Severino.

Feel free to ask him WHY he feels this way….

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 20, 2012 6:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that’s Federal Baseball speak, but maybe it’s more widespread. Where it came from I have no idea, other then perhaps it’s some sort of Pig-French (so to speak) left over from the Montreal days. Frankly, I find it a bit annoying, but hey, what are you gonna to do?

by PerryMason on Feb 20, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait till the SPAD and SIP comes around.

I missed the week or two when those were invented last year and now I’m clueless. But I like having our own language. If we ever all meat in real life, only we will understant each other.

by RoscoeNats on Feb 20, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

SPAD is Speed, Pitching, and Defense............ (or Starting, Pitching, and Defence...)

SIP I think is just a milder form of suck…..as in, “He didn’t suck totally, but he did sip a little…”

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 20, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Sadly, we learned the absence of "O" made the SPAD less effective...

Which really sipped.

And don’t forget, the “A” in SPAD is for Athleticism. I didn’t make this stuff up though.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Feb 21, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

ah, .............HA!!......(I don't think I knew that about the "A")

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 21, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

[I blame Doghouse]

He doesn't read in the winter does he?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Feb 20, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

if that’s the case we can call it Dog Latin

by PerryMason on Feb 20, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I also blame Doghouse and his hax0r speach....

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 20, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

MOAR is just federal baseball speak

Just like when we have

JESUS IS TEH CLUTCH, and when we called pudge pude.

@RobBob why MOAR SEVERINO

1. How many lefites do we have that throw 96 with a nasty slider
2. Remeber the times S***** was pitching instead of Severino, thats when we needed MOAR
3. Severino is just that amazing

MOAR SEVERINO!
@awalker138-I have joined the twitters

by jeff550 on Feb 20, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Final DWL Winter League stats...

Atahualpa Severino, 0.00 ERA, 21 games, 14.1 innings, 5 hits, 6 BBs, 14 Ks, 0.77 WHIP, .109 BAA

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 20, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

S***** who?

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Feb 20, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

You know,

This guy.

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 20, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

here's your "L"...

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 20, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly..........and few if any inherited runners scored, from the games I saw...

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 20, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Davey needs to quit worring about........

Getting run out of town……If STRAS pitches game 2 in Chicago he can pitch the home opener and get three starts on that home stand………….

by artistfork on Feb 19, 2012 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

It won't bother me at all

if Jordan Zimmermann pitches the home opener.

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 20, 2012 5:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Finially time to get going

I wonder if Xavier Paul could turn out to be the CF lead off guy we’ve been looking for. The opportunity is sure there for him. I hope he can put it all together and take advantage of the situation.

by jwnats on Feb 20, 2012 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

I'd like to see someone step forward and claim the position

It seems like all the candidates out there hit lefty, though: Paul, Ankiel and Bernadina.

by d_c_guy on Feb 20, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Do we know for sure if they're going to try Paul in center?

He has over 350 innings played in right and left each and only 50 some in center in his career. And the metrics say he was significantly worse in center too

Whats the frequency, Kenneth?

by ZimforPrez on Feb 20, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Metrics aside, I'm still pulling for him

The guy has a cannon for an arm (not too unlike Ankiel – also a former pitcher, whom the Dodgers converted into an outfielder). And, if he can remember how to swing the bat, the guy does have some speed to boot. I for one am putting metrics on the backburner for now and just trying to soak in the sights and sounds of spring ball! Side note: no one would have guessed that Morse could play a lick of 1B coming out of camp last year. Funny things do happen.

by DC_Dodger on Feb 20, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, that's not *completely* true

Morse had appeared in 37 games at 1B (30 as a Nat) before 2011; most of the games as a Nat were as a defensive replacement for Dunn. But you’re correct that he hadn’t shown he could be a full-time starter at 1B…

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"

by jbg2772 on Feb 20, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Marv Throneberry aside

by PerryMason on Feb 20, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Now don't hate on Marv

First he hadda’ grow up in the shadow of his brother Faye – who was a better ballplayer – then he got permanently identified with the godawful expansion Mets. T’weren’t his fault.

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Feb 20, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn’t Marv the key player in the trade that landed the Yankees Roger Maris (who subsequently hit a bunch of HR’s and won two straight MVP’s)?
Yankees were ready to refuse the deal that would send the KC Athletics Don Larson, Hank Bauer, and Norm Siebern unless KC would also take Marv off their hands as part of the package.

After baseball, one time Washington Senator, Faye was a professional bird dog trainer; Marv parlayed his renown as a ballplayer by making Miller Lite commercials.
Both Marv and Faye died relatively young (60 and 67).

by PerryMason on Feb 21, 2012 8:04 AM EST reply actions  

They were both good ol' boys

and they played baseball for money. Nuff said.

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Feb 21, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

One-Run Games ….Split
W L RS RA WP
27 27 180 180 .500

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 22, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

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