Washington Nationals Add Gio Gonzalez And Edwin Jackson To Mix In Rotation.
In spite of the rumors Thursday afternoon which quoted sources who said the Washington Nationals were "aggressively shopping" John Lannan around the league in anticipation of agreeing on a deal with free agent right-hander Edwin Jackson, when the Nats' GM spoke to reporters Thursday night he said, "We're certainly always open to [making] a deal that makes sense for us, and if it can improve the ballclub, but we did not acquire Edwin Jackson to trade another starting pitcher." The GM did, however, say that the Nats would keep an open mind about making a deal if one arose. In Jackson and Gio Gonzalez, the Nationals have added two power arms to their rotation to pitch alongside Stephen Strasburg, Jordan Zimmermann and whichever one of the three starters between Chien-Ming Wang, John Lannan and Ross Detwiler earns a starting role coming out of Spring Training.
The deal with Jackson, Rizzo told reporters, (which is said to be for 1-year/$8-$12M) doesn't change the team's plans for John Lannan. When the GM was asked if the 27-year-old left-hander could conceivably be moved into a bullpen role like many expect Ross Detwiler will be, early this season at least, the general manager said no, "I think John, his strength is as a starting pitcher. I think that he's a quality starter that's given us quality innings in the past [and] I believe is going to give us quality innings in the future, and he's an asset to our team and like I said, gives us quality and also gives us depth and options."
Asked if Lannan had any remaining options, (Detwiler has no options remaining which could figure in the decision-making process this Spring), Rizzo reiterated that though Lannan does have an option, "We feel that he's a major league pitcher. He's major league caliber and he's major league-ready to help a contending team and we feel that he's a solid major league starting pitcher and that's what we're going to use him as."
In Gonzalez and Jackson, the Nationals have added two starters who've put up multiple 200.0+ inning seasons to what is a relatively young staff with question marks throughout. Gio Gonzalez has pitched 200.2 and 202.0 innings in each of the last two seasons, respectively, and Edwin Jackson's gone over 200.0 IP in two of the last three campaigns, missing the two-hundred inning mark by a third of an inning in 2011. Both pitchers have struggled with control at times though. Gonzalez has walked 4.44 BB/9 over 535.1 career innings pitched. Jackson walked 62 (2.79 BB/9) in 199.2 IP last season, but he's walked 3.66 BB/9 over 1079.0 IP in his career.
When Rizzo was asked about Gio Gonzalez's control issues in a conference call with reporters after the deal, the general manager said he wasn't worried about the left-hander's walk totals. "We really like his peripheral numbers," Rizzo told reporters, "He's won a lot of games on a mediocre club. 16 wins on the Oakland A's last year was quite a feat. He has the propensity to strike players out. He's got swing and miss stuff and we see his walks turning in the right direction. We see him having general command and we think as he progresses into his career, each and every year he's going to improve on his command."
The general manager said tonight that the Nationals believe there's room for improvement with their new 28-year-old right-hander as well. "We think [Jackson's] got a bit of upside left," Rizzo said, "He's a guy that we've seen a lot. I've scouted a lot personally when I was doing scouting for other clubs. We're going to make a few tweaks to his delivery. Last year he was a different pitcher out of the windup than he was from the stretch. We feel that there [are] certain tweaks we can make to his delivery that will make him more difficult to see. If you look at the splits with runners on base, pitching from the stretch, and runners not on base, pitching from the windup, the numbers are really surprising, with [a .339] BAA from the windup and much, much less from the stretch."
• Edwin Jackson's 2011 Splits:
| Split | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | SB | CS | BB | SO | TB | GDP | HBP | SH | SF | IBB | ROE | tOPS+ | sOPS+ | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| --- | 32 | 428 | 395 | 8 | 134 | 25 | 3 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 32 | 69 | 2.16 | .339 | .390 | .478 | .869 | 189 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | .396 | 126 | 146 |
| Men On | 32 | 433 | 381 | 81 | 91 | 23 | 2 | 8 | 22 | 1 | 30 | 79 | 2.63 | .239 | .292 | .373 | .665 | 142 | 27 | 1 | 15 | 6 | 4 | 5 | .277 | 73 | 80 |
• Edwin Jackson's Career Splits:
| I | Split | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | SB | CS | BB | SO | TB | GDP | HBP | SH | SF | IBB | ROE | tOPS+ | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| --- | 201 | 2554 | 2297 | 64 | 664 | 118 | 18 | 64 | 0 | 0 | 244 | 424 | 1.74 | .289 | .361 | .440 | .800 | 1010 | 0 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 17 | .332 | 107 | |
| Men On | 202 | 2158 | 1891 | 476 | 490 | 102 | 14 | 55 | 101 | 28 | 195 | 377 | 1.93 | .259 | .327 | .415 | .742 | 785 | 113 | 9 | 37 | 26 | 17 | 23 | .293 | 92 |
"We've got some ideas," the GM continued, "We've got some ideas that we've mentioned to Edwin and he's very receptive to them and pending him passing a physical, we'll introduce [the changes] to him and see if we can gradually implement them and see if it improves his command and deceptiveness. The stuff is there. The power is there. And again, a terrific character guy, make-up guy and another guy with a World Series ring and a guy that we feel really good about having on the club."
"You've seen his walks trending in the right direction," Rizzo said when asked about the control issues Jackson's dealt with in the past. "I think it's a more mature pitcher. Not afraid of pitching to contact. Attacking the strike zone especially early in counts. That's a mindset that we're going to pound into all of our starting pitchers this year again as we have in the past, but with his stuff, he needs to be comfortable and confident that he can get guys out and especially early in the count, not nibble and thus not walk as many guys and be more successful."
Is the acquisition of Jackson a sign that the Nationals are in "win-now mode"? "I've been in 'win-now mode' for my whole career," Rizzo joked, "We just didn't have the players capable of winning. We feel that we're a team that is going to be very, very competitive in a really difficult division. Our goal is to play meaningful games in September and beyond and we feel that the acquisition of this kind of talent allows us and gets us a step closer to doing that."
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stealth GM does it again
we heard about Buerhle and lost out
we hoped for Fielder and lost out
we never saw Gio, Lidge or Jackson coming, at least I didn’t
the under the radar signings seem to work out better for the Nats
by gengreen17 on Feb 3, 2012 7:33 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
"we feel that the acquisition of this kind of talent allows us and gets us a step closer to doing that."
Hint, maybe, that Rizzo doesn’t think he is done yet for this offseason?
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
not til we get oswalt too
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man
by TJL on Feb 3, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
Fuhgettabout Oswalt
at least for this year. He signed with St. Louis.
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Are you sure?
I haven’t seen anything on this since the rumors last week. He was still an FA as of this morning.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
Hm
I thought it was a done deal…
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Reported as such (shakes first at Twitter) not done...
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 3, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
MarkZuckerman:
What Jackson does have over Lannan: He pitches deeper into games. Averages 6.34 innings per start, Lannan 5.87.
Well, that is one measure.
It’s not necessarily a GOOD measure…
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
It wasn't a good mesaure when Rigglean was managing...
But with competent managment it’s a pretty decent yard stick.
No, it's not
It depends a lot on the team and, especially, the state of the bullpen. Just ‘cause Livo pitched 200 innings or so doesn’t mean he should have pitched 200 innings.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
by RobBobS on Feb 3, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Viva RIZZO!!!
Love what Boras initially tried to get for EJ and what he eventually got. A rare whiff for Super A. (The A can stand for 2 different words.)
Aardvark and Angel?
I think this deal means Rizzo & Boras are up to something else. ZOW, was Rizzo in full marketing mode on Lannan! Too effusive for credibility.
I like the EJax signing, though. He and Gio almost almost get me over the loss of Livo. And, I know when they start winning games I’ll be happy.
BUT…….who’s going to THROW SLOWWWWWWER?
"player development" should not be gladiator games. by cat daddy3000 on Aug 6, 2011
by MissB on Feb 3, 2012 1:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe Clipp and Storen need to develop a 59 mph curve ball...
…which we called the “gravity drop” back in Little League.
Hell 2 yrs ago CWS offered EJax in a straight-up swap for Dunn, and Rizzo turned thumbs down.
Now, with the advantage of 20/20 hindsight…
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Those were the reports anyway
I don’t ever believe “reports”.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
I know, but this one is just too good to not be true
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
And I like Espi better than Beckham anyway. Wasn’t that another piece the Nats were rumored to want…or was that just us discussing it?
He was the reason the trade didn't go through.
Their GM said it was too steep a price for a “rental.”
Skins rule
I like that version even better
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
$11 million deal for Jackson
Jim_Duquette:
EJax deal with the #Nationals is valued at 11 mil., only 9 will be paid this year. He turned down 2 deals, betwn 20-25m over 3 years-
We’ve got some ideas that we’ve mentioned to Edwin and he’s very receptive to them
… I suppose pitching from the stretch 100% of the time would be too radical a notion …
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
Hmm...maybe...
But I’d like to see a further breakdown of windup/stretch by lefty or righty batter. Because it would make sense to me that a good tweak might be “from the stretch all the time against righties, do windup/stretch as normal against lefties”
"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane
Why not? He wouldn't be the first.
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Paging the ghost of Don Larsen...
Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"
Only WS perfect game ever
Yanks v Cards, 1956
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
Hopefully
they tighten his wind-up. Less motion allows the ball to be hidden away. If your arm flails prior to release, the big leaguers see that. Ironically, I watched Strasburg’s first game lastnight and he showed the ball quite a bit, but he was just so fast it didn’t matter. Maybe hiding E-Jax’s will pay dividends. I’m so excited for this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like what CM Wang does in his wind-up
He doesn’t just hide the ball – he stops, holding ball in glove over his head. Then, with the ball thus hidden, he eff’s with it for a good two-Mississippi before he comes down, kicks and deals. This has gotta mess with the hitter’s mind something fierce.
"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford
by Whupass on Feb 3, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pity though that when runners get on
he gives up an OBP of .350 and a healthy SLG of .415 over his career.
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
how does that compare to league avg?
i bet all are worse with men on and, while that obp number is scary, is.415 slg really that bad?
by William.Hatheway on Feb 3, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Last year's NL split:
Men on: .332 OBP, .394 SLG
Bases Empty: .310 OBP, .394 SLG
Rob
--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds
NPUT...
All the Harper chatter that snuck into the EJax coverage…
Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."
by Patrick Reddington on Feb 3, 2012 2:48 PM EST reply actions

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