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Wire Taps: Washington Nationals' Spring Training Stories, Contract Drama.

Ryan Zimmerman's right. It's not fair that so much talk right now is about his contract and his future in the nation's capital when the most-anticipated season in the team's short history in the nation's capital is getting underway. Granted there are a few other stories coming out of Viera, Florida with the Nats' manager, coaches and catcher working on tweaking Edwin Jackson's delivery cause they think he's tipping his pitches when he throws from a full windup and Davey Johnson's coaches trying to hide how much they like Bryce Harper because they know what a big story the 19-year-old's first real run at the Opening Day roster is this Spring and as the 69-year-old skipper told reporters today (including the Washington Post's Adam Kilgore), "'... they like him. They don’t want to try to influence me in any manner.'"

Star-divide

Harper's not the only young player getting coverage. 2011 3rd Round pick Matt Purke threw in front of Nats' manager Davey Johnson as NatsInsider.com's Mark Zuckerman reported this afternoon, and the 21-year-old left-hander impressed with Johnson telling reporters he liked the 21-year-old's delivery and the way the ball was coming out of his hand, which is good news when you're talking about an '09 1st Round pick (14th overall by Texas) whose shoulder woes last season resulted in his being available in the 3rd Round where the Nationals drafted him 93rd overall and signed him to a well-above slot 4-year/$4.15M dollar major league deal. Do you know where Purke went to college?

The young Nats' lefty unwittingly became a topic of discussion when that question and some of what Washington Post writer Thomas Boswell said in a chat yesterday about D.C. area tv and radio reporters was reprinted by the WaPost's Dan Steinberg in a D.C. Sports Bog post this morning entitled, "Tom Boswell says TV and radio hosts contribute to D.C. not being a baseball town", that got the nation's capital's writers and tv and radio personalities talking, culminating in the Washington Post's Mr. Boswell's appearance on the Mike Wise Show with Holden Kushner where they all discussed and squashed the controversy. If you like Nationals-related drama this one's for you.

The shoulder the Washington Nationals should really be concerned about, however, belongs to first baseman Adam LaRoche not Matt Purke or even Anthony Rendon. LaRoche, "... probably won't know until the final week or two of spring training," that his shoulder is 100% recovered NatsInsider.com's Mark Zuckerman wrote this morning in an article entitled, "LaRoche still working his way back." Why is that a big concern? Under doctors orders, the left-handed hitting and throwing LaRoche isn't back to throwing freely yet and hasn't yet attempted, "... to long-toss the ball from more than 90 feet," though he told reporters he was comfortable swinging. As D.C. GM Mike Rizzo reiterated again today in an interview with MLB.com's Bill Ladson, the Nats' offense this year is expecting a lot from the 32-year-old first baseman in the second-year of his 2-year/$16M dollar deal.

"'We had offensive questions last year, but we tend to forget that we played almost the whole season without Adam LaRoche, who averaged 25 home runs and 80 RBIs the last six seasons, excluding last year,'" Rizzo told MLB.com's Mr. Ladson in the Q&A entitled, "Rizzo likes what he sees as Nats prep for year", and though they didn't find the outfield bat they wanted this winter, the GM continues to say that he thinks, "'... having LaRoche, [Ryan] Zimmerman and [Jayson] Werth at their career norms will take care of any offense that we were lacking last year.'"

Taking care of the offensive issues from last year, however, takes a back seat for the next two days to taking care of the so-called Face of the Nationals' franchise, Ryan Zimmerman, who has set a Friday deadline to work out an extension with the team. The two sides have talked for some time now. The 27-year-old '05 1st Round pick is coming off an injury shortened 2011 campaign in which he dealt with a torn abdominal muscle which eventually required surgery. Zimmerman played just 101 games, making 440 plate appearances over which he had a .289/.355/.443 line and was worth +2.5 fWAR a year after a .307/.388/.510, +7.2 fWAR 2010 season.

The 2011 season weakend his bargaining position some, a fact the Nats' third baseman freely admits in the Washington Post's Thomas Boswell's article on the negotiations entitled, "Nationals spring training: Time to deal with Ryan Zimmerman." Prepare yourself for this next quote and try not to yell out, "JUST SIGN HIM ALREADY!" when you read it. "'I really want to stay here,'" the Nationals' first 1st Round pick tells the WaPost's Mr. Boswell, "'It might even be good that I’m coming off an injury year. It makes the price lower and a deal easier, you’d think. Whatever happens, it’s more than I can ever spend. So I don’t want to be greedy.'" The Nats' GM Mike Rizzo tells MLB.com's Mr. Ladson the team wants a deal too, "'We are working hard on it and we have been working on it for a long time,'" the general manager says, "'When two people want something, we think we can get something done." The WaPost's Mr. Boswell, of course, suggests it's not the GM's decision on a contract this big and he has ideas about what's prevented an agreement thus far.

Zimmerman says that the Nats and his agent have until Friday to work something out then he doesn't want to discuss it anymore this year since the season's really getting started. There are two years left on the 5-year/$45M dollar extension Zimmerman signed in 2009. The Nats' third baseman was coming off an injury-filled '08 season when he and the Nats agreed on the last extension. The goal then was to get an extension done before Opening Day after Zimmerman avoided arbitration by agreeing to a one-year/$3.325M dollar deal in February. The negotiations would end on Opening Day so he they wouldn't be a distraction to the team Zimmerman told reporters at the time. They finally agreed on the deal on April 20th.

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Extend Zim NOW!!!!!1!

jeebus…

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 23, 2012 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

why the reluctance?

I dont understand Rizzo on this…unless the plan is to see how Zim goes this year in terms of injuries and then shop him for prospects…this is a bad move. They should sign Zim now.

Ian Desmond is my hero!

by Mezza on Feb 23, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe Zim wants 7/175M and they don’t want to pay him that much right now. Maybe he wants more. Maybe not. Who knows?

by dc Roach on Feb 23, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

im not sure they are even that far

I got the sense they havent talked $$ yet…but who knows? I agree with Cat daddy…doesnt make sense to stiff the best player who has performed for the team for guys that doesnt. Im not a sign at any price kinda guy but figure this will be one of the least risker moves the Nats make.

Ian Desmond is my hero!

by Mezza on Feb 23, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly that wouldn't surprise me.

My thought is that the two sides trust each other to be reasonable on per-year money, so they’re working on the business of how many years (how many guaranteed, any option years, how many of those, and what kind) first, because they probably wont be further apart than $5MM/yr on the money.

"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane

by Jorgath on Feb 23, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that's the thing

Everyone seems to believe that it’s the Nats’ cheapness that is preventing a deal, when in fact Zim/CAA may be asking for the moon right now. None of us knows.

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 23, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

it makes no sense to overpay for Werth and then go cheap on Zim........

and no contract will be hanging over the season…Point to your head, Rizzo!!!

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 23, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Shane Victorino.....

More than an OFer; Future Actor? I am quite sure I saw him on last Monday’s Hawaii Five-0. Anyone mention that yet?

by sullyzz on Feb 23, 2012 12:33 AM EST reply actions  

confirmed

didn’t watch it, but read it at yahoo! that he’d be on the show. show any good?

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 23, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

The show is awesome….watched it as a kid as well. I like today’s version better than the old one. Victorino had a very small part in last Monday’s episode…..only about two lines at the very beginning, but at least he had a speaking role!

by sullyzz on Feb 23, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Best part about the old show was the theme music,

which rocked. Don’t remember much beyond that, other than “Book’em, Dano!”.

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 23, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Typical wooden '60's acting

The best part for me was actually the SNL Spanish game-show parody:

“Quien es mas macho, Ricardo Montalban o Yack Lord?”

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"

by jbg2772 on Feb 23, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Its’ all the same…..in fact, I believe they use some of the imagery from the old show in the intro of the new show, when it is first coming on. The music is still the same music. The new “Danny” (who is James Caan’s son) doesn’t care for the “Book’em Danno” so it is usually only said when Steve McGarrett wants to get under his skin. Good show, and darn funny at times.

by sullyzz on Feb 23, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Screw Super 2

I hope Bryce Harper starts from day one, but only if he earns it in the spring. I don’t care about the extra year of arbitration or any of the business side, I want to see the Nats get a title.

Really amped about this season, can’t wait for the good stuff to start happening again.

by Andrew Davidson on Feb 23, 2012 12:34 AM EST reply actions  

Play the new kid!!!

Harper is going to be real expensive, no matter what, or when.

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 23, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

stuff it – I cant see how its going to kill his confidence. He’ll struggle and then wop 20Hrs.

Ian Desmond is my hero!

by Mezza on Feb 23, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I want to hear the crack of the bat on those.....

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 23, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

by how much does he have to earn it?

He’s going to be real expensive no matter what, but you want six great years out of him, not one mediocre year and five years. If he performs only slightly better offensively than ankiel, then he’s “earned” the starting spot, but I still say put him in the minors. I want him hitting .300/.400/.500

by mk7676 on Feb 23, 2012 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather this year be the learning curve year, if there is to be one.

but, I have great confidence that starting Harper will be made obvious as the season draws near…

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 23, 2012 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn't hurt das Wunderkind to wait one month

and down the road, it’d make a damn big difference to the team – which includes us hard-core fans, don’t forget. Ain’t no dilettantes here – and if there are, please leave.

Check out Al Kaline, a bad mister if ever there was. Tigers brought him up at 19, and he was OK – .270 or so, if memory serves (I ain’t peeking), but he was no more than OK. Next year, at the ripe old age of 20, he was a house on fire. Tore up the league. Won the batting title (youngest man to ever do that) with .340, and parlayed that into a 20-year HOF career as onna the finest right-fielders to ever crap between two shoes.

Could Harper do the same? Is he another Kaline? Could be – but he can wait a stinkin’ month

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Feb 23, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Twenty-one days.

So close he can taste it. He won’t like the three week purgatory, and he might even hold a grudge about it later, but it does seem like the prudent move, even though I myself want him with the club ASAP.

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 23, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he wouldn't like it one damn bit

and I want him with the big club as much as anyone. Hell, I drove to Hagerstown to watch the sumbich play, and I drive to Hagerstown for no one. Let’s see a good ST, then 100 or so ABs in AAA. If he holds a grudge, let him – the move would do him, and us, all the good in the world.

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Feb 23, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

how will we feel if the Nats miss the playoffs by one game?

If baseball adds the second wildcard it could be worth the dice roll. Not going to be my money to try to re-sign this kid in five years, I want a playoff run. This all presupposes he’s Conigliaro reborn.

by Joey Fox on Feb 23, 2012 12:53 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Tony C was a great player

who many know hit a bunch of homers for the Sox at age 19, so for comparison purposes that would be a a good thing to wish for, but let’s pray that it ends at that. The story of his injury shortened baseball career (and short life after baseball) is one the saddest I can think of, though Roy Campanella comes to mind.

by PerryMason on Feb 23, 2012 7:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Herb Score

Better than Koufax, then fate intervened.

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Feb 23, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Look, it's not the money for the super-two

It’s the cutoff for having team control in 2018. Forget the money. It IS worth missing the playoffs by one game this year in order to have an extra GUARANTEED year of the kid. So you can wait until May, dangit.

Not that I think we’ll miss it by 1 game. I think we’ll miss it by 2 or 3. I’m predicting an 88-win season, with the cutoff for NL playoffs at 90.

"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane

by Jorgath on Feb 23, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah….I completely disagree with this thought. If the kid is so darn good that the Nats will make the playoffs by having him the full season, but not make the playoffs by waiting till May, the team HAS to start him in DC from day 1. By 2018, this team could be in a rebuilding mode again….anything could happen. Bryce could be a one and done….could have a terrible injury. Too many what-ifs; therefore, if the team can make the playoffs in 2012, they have to do everything it takes to get there, to include starting Bryce in the opening game.This is only 2012…..let 2018 take care of itself.

by sullyzz on Feb 23, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Luckily, it's Rizzo's call.

And Rizzo has stated and demonstrated that he’s looking at building a long-term winner, not a one-year winner.

The only way we’re in rebuilding mode in 2018 is if Rizzo makes short-sighted “win-now” moves that screw us over in the end. He knows better than to push all the chips in this year, when we have long odds for a WS title. Our best shot at a title is to be a contender for several years in a row, including 2018, not to risk it all on 2012.

by rarumberger on Feb 23, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

The only way...?

Well, in ‘17 Werth’s contract will be at its weightiest, Zim’s contract may be beginning to be a drain, and Strasburg will not be cheap. By then the Nats could be aging and in decline, but nevertheless attempting to reload. Maybe they won’t be terrible, but maybe they won’t be exactly competitive during that time, either.

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 23, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm saying,

these things may happen regardless of what happens with Harper this year. So, no, I’m countering your point.

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

In that scenario, we would still want Harper under team control, as we could trade him for "reload" prospects.

Assuming that the Nationals need a multi-year rebuild.

Though I certainly agree with you that is not the only way we are in a rebuild mode then as any number of things could happen between now and then.

That being said if Harper is going to come up and hit like Bernadina out of Spring Training, then there is no reason to lose out on the more productive years in the future. As much as I would like to see the Nationals have a play-off run, I think there will be more important factor than Harper being up.

#extendZim

by chubias on Feb 23, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

DC Not a Baseball Town?

Tom Boswell has one thing right. The local media does very little to enhance the sport locally. When Brett Harber was lead sportscaster on WUSA he’d lead off nearly every sports report with the Redskins, no matter what time of year. Even now that he’s gone, the Redskins make it into every sports report in one form or another. They have not been newsworthy for years except for the fact that they they spend like the Yankees and produce like the Orioles.

by coogan on Feb 23, 2012 7:16 AM EST reply actions  

This is the Redskins town

They’ve been here 75 years, won 3 SBs and 2 NFL chips. It’s just reality that they will always come first here, win or lose. Lose for the better part of 20 years, even.

But I think there’s hope for the Nats as far as coverage. When I was a kid, the Caps were barely newsworthy. Then between a SC Finals appearance in ‘98 and the emergence of Ovie around ’04/’05, they moved to the front of the non-Redskins pack, media-attention wise. I think the same will happen for the Nats.

The “not a baseball town” hypothesis is ridiculous. People just are hesitant to jump on another losing bandwagon. They want a winner, simple as that. And not even a title, just a perennial postseason contender. If the next 5 or so years pan out as planned, they will be huge here. I’d put money on that.

by terpsDC on Feb 23, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Well...I wouldn't say "always"

Always is a bit too much. I agree that this is the Redskins town now, and that it will be for some time to come. I’d just use “for the foreseeable future” they will come first, not “always.”

"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane

by Jorgath on Feb 23, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it's a self-perpetuating myth

This town, like most towns, loves a winner.

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 23, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

This

And I would love to not have to hear about Washington’s football team any longer. As someone who’s usually not offended by anything, I still can’t believe that they haven’t changed their name. Being an American Indian who’s not from here, I can’t believe that people plaster a racial slur on their cars, hats and children’s clothing.

Did someone order snark and immaturity?

by Pig.Pen on Feb 23, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

THAT is the reason I will NEVER be a Burgundy & Gold fan. I refuse to even say or write the nickname. I am highly offended by it. When I moved to the DC area in the late 80’s, I did not follow any of the teams. I have slowly adopted ALL of them EXCEPT the Burgundy & Gold….even those poor Wizards. Too bad…..I would also love to support our local football team, but I can’t support such insensitivity. I don’t mind teams with non-racial nicknames (Braves, Seminoles, etc), but I hate that “R” word, and there is no way it would be tolerated for any other race in our country. So, until that happens….Go Falcons, and Roll Tide (Alabama is a better football team and program than the Burgundy & Gold anyway!).

by sullyzz on Feb 23, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not typically offended by things

You can call me just about any name you want to including that one, but it’s hard when your kids go to school and you have to talk to your 5 year old about that word, what it means, what his great grandfather went through when he was in the Army in WWII and why we choose to not use that word. But, people keep buying jackets, hats, stickers and anything else with that logo plastered all over it so I guess they don’t have much impetus to change.

Did someone order snark and immaturity?

by Pig.Pen on Feb 23, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m truly amazed that you’ve had to explain an issue like this to a 5 year old.
(FYI – went to great lengths to educate my now adult kids regarding the hideousness of racism. I say this so you won’t think me another insensitive code talking so and so… quite to the contrary.)

PS Sullyzz – are you comparing to use of the quote unquote “R” word to the use of the “N” word?

by PerryMason on Feb 23, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

What I am saying, is that I find the “R” word highly offensive, and I refuse to use it as a part of my vocabulary to discuss the local NFL franchise, and I refuse to support that franchise because of it. Anyone who does not realize that it is extremely offensive to a large populace of Native American citizens, is simply blind to reality.

by sullyzz on Feb 23, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Thus "Potomac Basin Indigenous Persons"

Gregg Easterbrook’s euphemism for the Washington NFL franchise…

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"

by jbg2772 on Feb 24, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps a nickname that harkens to the old USFL (or worse, XFL)

I suggest “The Washington Gridlock”.

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 24, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I still have a Washington Federals Souvenir Cup

Craig James, Joey Walters, Mike Hohensee … like most DC sporting ventures, they were terrible. But a college kid could get & afford the tickets, so that was something.

by d_c_guy on Feb 24, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

We were New Jersey Generals season ticket holders...

…during the Herschel Walker years.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Feb 24, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

One of my favorite Federals (USFL) memories

Was the game in 1984 when the 1-10 Federals played the 9-2 New Jersey Generals at RFK. The Federals were horrifically bad that year; they were not only losing, they were blown out regularly. The two teams had met at the Meadowlands earlier in the season, with the Generals winning 43-6 (it wasn’t even the Federals’ biggest loss of the season – they lost their opener 53-14, after which their head coach was fired … it didn’t help).

It was a reverse lock that Levale Speigner would have approved of; the Federals led 21-7 at halftime and held onto that lead for a 31-17 triumph. My best friend, who was from New Jersey, showed up at halftime. I told him it was 21-7, which he expected. When I told him the Federals were winning he thought I was joking. :-)

by d_c_guy on Feb 24, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I really hope you had to look up those Generals/Federals scores...heh.

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Feb 24, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

If that were true, then the Capitals would have been the most poplar team in recent years.

Not to mention the Redskins would be buried behind the Nationals and Capitals this year. This is just a football place. The Nationals can and should become the second most popular team in the DMV area, but they won’t surpass the Redskins in popularity.

Skins rule

by Horcasitas4 on Feb 23, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

This will always be a Redskins town.

In reality, most NFL teams belong to engraved football-first cities. There are a few exceptions(New York, Boston, etc.) but for the most part football is the main sport. In D.C., Maryland and Virginia, the Redskins will always be the most popular team.

Skins rule

by Horcasitas4 on Feb 23, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

All I'm saying is that "always" is a long time.

“Always” means that you’re saying it’s impossible for DC to ever be not football-first. I can see futures where this city isn’t a football-first city. I don’t see them as likely, especially not in the next 25 years or so, but I CAN see it happening at some point. So it’s possible, even if it’s not likely.

"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane

by Jorgath on Feb 23, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Bos is right

Most—but not all—of the TV, Radio and Newspaper reporters who cover the Nats are lucky to find their way in to the stadium. Most of the coverage—when it actually occurs—is pretty bad. It’s an exciting team, but Ray Knight and Johnny Holiday haven’t been exciting since 1940, which I’m pretty sure is the year Holiday died (they just haven’t told him yet). Ladson is awful, Amanda Comoak has been doing this for slightly less time than I’ve been using my current coffee mug and Kilgore is meh at best. I like FP more and more, but Carpenter is a total homer who doesn’t bring much—if anything—to the table. I don’t believe that D.C. needs to produce championships to be a baseball town because just look at Boston, Chicago and San Francisco, three baseball cities that each enjoyed a rather long championship drought, but coverage has to be better and it’s not so much about knowing who Matt Purke is, as it is about knowing that the Nationals will once again enter spring training without a centerfielder.

Did someone order snark and immaturity?

by Pig.Pen on Feb 23, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Believe me…..if the Nats become a WS contender, this city will rock Nationals red. Maybe it still won’t compete with the likes of Boston and Chicago, but will definitely be very similar to the scenario you see in Philadelphia.

by sullyzz on Feb 23, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe

I can honestly say that I don’t typically watch the World Series because I don’t want to listen to McCarver. Even if there’s a winner one year they won’t be able to sustain that level without better people reporting on the team. Remember, Miami has won two World Series in the last 20 years, has multiple successful college baseball programs located in their city, but still isn’t a baseball town.

Did someone order snark and immaturity?

by Pig.Pen on Feb 23, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Miami had a fire-sale after winning their championships, which turned off the fans. As for the announcers, that is a personal opinion…I tend to like the cast, and I think our radio guys are the best in the business. I didn’t comment earlier, but since you bring it up again, I thought your comment about Johnny Holliday was pretty ridiculous….he is well known in this area as the “voice” of the Terps, and is well respected not only locally, but nationally. As for “maybe” regarding DC fans…..it is a given. DC is a bandwagon town who loves a winner. Heck, as big as the B&G still are, they do not sell out FedEx like they did RFK. The Steelers fans took over FedEx a couple seasons ago….there is NO WAY that would have EVER happened if the B&G were contenders; DC fans would have had that stadium rocking. I hate the B&G, but I give the fans credit for their support of winning programs. The same can be said for Hockey….The phone booth is packed with Caps fans now….not so much when the team was losing, when you could “hear the puck drop” during the game.

by sullyzz on Feb 23, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn't know Holiday's history

Maybe he’s an institution around here, but he’s not that great currently and/or when talking baseball, even if he is the voice of the Terps. IMHO. Hey, Ray Knight used to be a lot better when he was on ESPN, but he’s getting old and isn’t as good now as he was. Maybe DC is a bandwagon town and I understand there were extenuating circumstances in Florida, but other teams/cities have produced winners and still not produced excitement (Hello Montreal!), but I think maybe we’re looking at this with different standards. I’m saying that DC still won’t be a Boston, St. Louis or San Francisco and you’re saying it could be as good as Philly, which I can buy.

Did someone order snark and immaturity?

by Pig.Pen on Feb 23, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think we need to be a WS contender neccessarily

People who aren’t already hardcore Nats fans just want a TASTE of something great. And not just a flash in the pan like ’05. A decent run in the next 5 years, pennant/WS or not, will go a long way to filling out this fan base to something comparable to philly.

by terpsDC on Feb 23, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it will help a ton

I also think that putting winners together may attract better writers, radio host and TV Commentators to come to the area, or give those respective outlets the money to hire them.

Did someone order snark and immaturity?

by Pig.Pen on Feb 23, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

meh…..again, that is opinion based; but they need to keep Holliday aboard.

by sullyzz on Feb 23, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree. And just like what will eventually happen in Philly, if the team stops winning, the fans will disappear once again.

by sullyzz on Feb 23, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Nats Radio

What sports radio channel should I listen to get get the best Nats coverage?
Thanks

Sharon Marsh "Stan, what did I tell you about being a smart ass?" Stan Marsh "Don't be a smart ass"

John S West Jr

by Adam double bubble on Feb 23, 2012 8:20 AM EST reply actions  

For news, or games?

Games, 106.7 The Fan. News, just listen to WTOP (103.5). Both FM.

"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane

by Jorgath on Feb 23, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

I am programming those stations into my phone now.

Sharon Marsh "Stan, what did I tell you about being a smart ass?" Stan Marsh "Don't be a smart ass"

John S West Jr

by Adam double bubble on Feb 23, 2012 9:06 AM EST reply actions  

Sorry...couldn't help myself...
Prepare yourself for this next quote and try not to yell out, “JUST SIGN HIM ALREADY!” when you read it. “‘I really want to stay here,’” the Nationals’ first 1st Round pick tells the WaPost’s Mr. Boswell, “‘It might even be good that I’m coming off an injury year. It makes the price lower and a deal easier, you’d think. Whatever happens, it’s more than I can ever spend. So I don’t want to be greedy.’”

JUST SIGN HIM ALREADY!!!!!

by Dan Shields on Feb 23, 2012 9:55 AM EST reply actions  

If Zim is currently demanding 10/200

then I cannot support “sign him already”.

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 23, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

The tone of the report tends to suggest they're not talking about $200 mil.

and so, I second Mr. Shields:

JUST SIGN HIM ALREADY!!!

If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!

by ricksnats on Feb 23, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

You and I know

there’s usually a big difference between what’s said in negotiations and what’s said in public.

I say let them work it out. They probably will.

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 23, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Simplify it.

“JUST WORK SOMETHING OUT”

"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane

by Jorgath on Feb 23, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Sold!

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 23, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Anyone have Oswalt predictions?

I’m guessing the Pirates, Royals, or retirement.

#extendZim

by chubias on Feb 23, 2012 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

I doubt he would go to the Bucs, I don’t see why they would want two older pitchers past their prime after getting Burnett. Just my two cents.

by RossingtonCollins on Feb 23, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Mostly, just that those are the rotations that most need Oswalt.

The Buc’s rotation is bad, and though they have a small army of pitchers on the way, it would probably be good for them to be competitive this year, to help cut down on free agents not willing to take there money like Mr. Jackson, who turned down 3/30 there.

#extendZim

by chubias on Feb 23, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

True they have Taillion, Cole, and Allie coming up soon but I guess it would depend on the length of the contract for Oswalt. I think a 2 or 3 year deal would suffice if they really wanted him.

by RossingtonCollins on Feb 23, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

First team to have a spring training injury to a SP

"I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you."
-Leslie Nielsen, Airplane

by Jorgath on Feb 23, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Adam Kilgore:
In Bullpen No. 2, Stephen Strasburg is snapping off a couple curveballs. His right arm remained attached.

by dc Roach on Feb 23, 2012 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

I thought curveballs were verboten?

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 23, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

"Im not 13 anymore, dad..."

Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion man

by TJL on Feb 23, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m so ready for this season to start, I need something else to watch now that the Caps can’t buy a win.

by RossingtonCollins on Feb 23, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

This.

Waiting to bang my drum in parades for the Nats and Caps.

by souldrummer on Feb 23, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Amanda Comak:
Probably a #badspringtrainingtwitpic but subject’s interesting: Anthony Rendon working at 2B,SS w/Tony Beasle lockerz.com/s/186443955

by dc Roach on Feb 23, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

Nice Roach. Thanks for sharing.

by sullyzz on Feb 23, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Mark Zuckerman:
Stephen Strasburg pitching from a perspective you can only get at spring training: pic.twitter.com/xGNx0ees

by dc Roach on Feb 23, 2012 11:50 AM EST reply actions  

Mark Zuckerman:
Photo from a similar angle of Gio Gonzalez: pic.twitter.com/lthWVWq6

by dc Roach on Feb 23, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Adam Kilgore:
Mike Rizzo and Ryan Zimmerman’s agent are expected to meet this afternoon in Viera, person with knowledge says. wapo.st/zEHR9J

the agent leaves town tonight..

by dc Roach on Feb 23, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

don't worry, be happy?

Dave Nichols:
Lunchtime reading: Zimmerman contract extension will get done when it gets done. Don’t worry, be happy. #Nats dsp.zimmext

by dc Roach on Feb 23, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't like the sound of Zuckerman's article on Solis

Rizzo said there was a “difference of opinions” on whether to have Solis undergo TJ. They may still have to put him under the knife if he’s sore after they ramp him up this spring.

Waiting to bang my drum in parades for the Nats and Caps.

by souldrummer on Feb 23, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

Don't know which article you are speaking of,

the one I read did discuss a “difference of opinion” last season about the severity of his soreness, but there was no mention of “TJ”…

Rob

--"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'..." -- Jayne Cobb

by RobBobS on Feb 23, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Hero of the T-Ball League!!!

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 23, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

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