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Washington Nationals Friday Night Notes: More Rizzo On Edwin Jackson, 2012 Nats' Rotation.

• More From Rizzo On MLB Network Radio: D.C. GM Mike Rizzo was asked if he'd walk MLB Network Radio hosts Kevin Kennedy and Jim Duquette through the Nationals' thought process in signing 28-year-old free agent right-hander Edwin Jackson to what is reportedly a 1-year/$11M dollar deal when he appeared on their show this afternoon to discuss the Nats' most recent addition. "We look at our rotation, our roster," the general manager said, "and we've got guys in different kinds of situations in their careers and in their development and in their rehabilitation, really, so we thought that we had a little innings drought. We needed to pick up some innings and some quality innings and Edwin was out there at [what] we thought was the right term for us and the right price and we thought it was a bit of a value for what we got on a 3.5-4.0 WAR player."

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The 6'3'', 210 lb Jackson, who's pitched for Tigers, Diamondbacks, White Sox and Cardinals over the last three years, has finished at +3.6, +3.8 and +3.8 fWAR in the last three seasons. Jordan Zimmermann's +3.4 fWAR was the highest amongst pitchers on the Nationals in 2011 with Livan Hernandez second at +1.9 fWAR. Gio Gonzalez was worth +3.5 fWAR fWIW. Last year, in Chicago with the White Sox and then in St. Louis after he was traded to Toronto and immediately flipped to the Cardinals, the right-hander was (12-9) with a 3.79 ERA, 3.55 FIP, 62 walks (2.79 BB/9) and 148 K's (6.67 K/9) in 32 G, 31 GS and 199.2 IP. In the postseason with St. Louis, Jackson, who pitched in the World Series with Tampa Bay in '08, was (1-1) with the Cardinals 3-1 in his starts though he gave up 19 hits, 11 runs and nine walks in 17.2 IP. More importantly, to the Nats at least, the nine-year MLB veteran has a 162-game average of 195.0 IP per season.

"With Stephen Strasburg, who will be on an innings limit, and Chien-Ming Wang," Rizzo explained, "We really don't know what we're going to get out of him. He hasn't pitched deep into a season in a long time, so we're counting on Gio Gonzalez for 200 [IP], now we've got another 200 [inning] guy we can count on in Edwin Jackson. You've got Stephen Strasburg, you've got Jordan Zimmermann [who is] one year removed from Tommy John surgery, pitched 160.0 innings last year. We can be more patient with him, so we thought that [Jackson] was not only a quality pitcher but also gives us a quantity in innings and kind of gives us protection in the rotation."

As the GM explained yesterday in a conference call with the D.C. press corps, the Nationals got interested in Edwin Jackson when the pitcher began considering accepting one-year offers after failing to find the right multi-year deal. CBSSports.com's Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) wrote on Twitter last night that the right-hander, "... turned down $30M for 3 yrs to sign for 1 year with Nats. sought to play for contender & establish value."

With all the pitchers on the roster now, (seven are expected to compete for five spots in the rotation on Opening Day), the GM was asked if they've already discussed how they'll divide up the innings amongst starters this Spring. "The conversations I've had with Steve McCatty, who's our major league pitching coach, and Spin Williams, who's our pitching coordinator in the minor leagues, along with Davey [Johnson]," Rizzo said, are about, "... how we're going to set up for the beginning of Spring Training. What pitchers do we want to stretch out as, and give the innings, as starters, because those innings are very, very valuable in the beginning of Spring Training."

As for how the Nats' rotation now compares to those of their NL East rivals, the general manager said, "We're a lot younger than a lot of other rotations, experience-level and that type of thing, but we feel that we've got very good quality pitchers, they're young and don't have the experience-level as maybe the Phillies do, but we feel that they have great upside. They've already shown their potential, but they still have potential. We feel that our big three at least, Strasburg, Gio Gonzalez and Zimmermann, we still see them as having some upside.

"They're still getting better, they're not at their peak yet. We feel good about Edwin. Chien-Ming had an electric four or five final starts and we feel his shoulder is getting better and better and better. John Lannan is a terrific major league pitcher, a 3.70 ERA, he's a 180-200 inning guy and Ross Detwiler, who's a power lefty, that again, had a 3.00 ERA last year in the National League, we feel that his future is bright also." Detwiler has a champion in Nats' skipper Davey Johnson too, who moved the '07 1st Round pick back into the rotation and was impressed with what he saw late last season. "And I don't care if it's any time of the year," the 68-year-old manager told reporters, "[It's] big league ballgames. You're pitching against clubs that are trying to establish their year. Every player that goes out there is trying to do well enough to play another year or win a pennant. And the effort that you're seeing [from Detwiler] is outstanding and he's definitely in the picture in the starting rotation."

"We're certainly going to have good competition in Spring Training," Rizzo said yesterday after the Edwin Jackson deal was announced, "And we're going to bring the best twenty-five north with us." And the rotation they're likely to open the 2012 season with, as the Nats' GM said a few weeks back after introducing Gio Gonzalez to D.C., will be, "... a young core of starting pitchers at the major league level that really is in the realm of something that we've never had here before."

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"Gio Gonzalez was worth +3.5 fWAR fWIW."

heh………[hard week in the mines….can’t… keep… up with Rizzo’s wizardry…]

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 3, 2012 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

2008-11 stats ... Jackson: 4.06 ERA, 1.395 WHIP, 69 quality starts. Lannan: 4.00 ERA, 1.418 WHIP, 68 quality starts.

hey, wait a minute….

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 3, 2012 11:38 PM EST reply actions  

Jackson was in the AL for a lot of that time

Plus he threw 15 more innings despite making 2 fewer starts than Lannan last year.

And then there’s the No Hitter.

We Aim to Maim - JoseRijo es mi Amigo aka court

by rfk428 on Feb 4, 2012 12:01 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

hehe.. he will be a frustrating guy to watch sometimes

but when he’s locked in he can be brilliant. It should be fun.

by dc Roach on Feb 4, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

the no-hitter didn't immediately come to mind............something like 8 walks though, right?

140+ pitches….

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 4, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

"some no-hitters are more equal than other no-hitters..." - George O.

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 4, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

149 pitches, 8 BB

one BB short of the record for a no-hitter.

I’m less than enthralled, but that may be a combination of remembering his erratic past and possibly overvaluing current assets.

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"

by jbg2772 on Feb 4, 2012 7:47 AM EST up reply actions  

That's cold

Gotta’ get us some no-hitter. Hell, we had one CG last year. One.

"I can go to my left or right, I am amphibious." - Charles Shackelford

by Whupass on Feb 4, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

He is still better than whoever was previously going to be the #4 starter

And there is no such thing as a bad one year contract in baseball

"I was a victim of a series of accidents. As are we all."
---Malachi Constant

by The Herndon Kid on Feb 4, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Matt Stairs

That one year contract didn’t turn out so well… but I get your point.

by ParkShark on Feb 4, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

His contract wasn't the problem

It was the rigglers insistence on using him.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents. As are we all."
---Malachi Constant

by The Herndon Kid on Feb 4, 2012 2:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

yes, my excitement has dimmed a bit after seeing these numbers...

maybe that “flaw” Rizzo saw will be fixable…

"...I don't want to go watch American League baseball." -Lance Berkman....
I wanna watch the "... tape-measure-testing, laser-throwing, eyeblack-oozing baseball cyborg."

by cat daddy3000 on Feb 4, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Accomplished

I think there are 4 teams that are competing for the division. I guess thats possible in the West?

You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!

by Bsullivan on Feb 4, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Amazed how bad the Dodgers and Rockies were this year.

You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!

by Bsullivan on Feb 4, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

c'mon, trade me some McCutchen!

at any rate, props for being a Bucs fan despite the last 19 years!

by William.Hatheway on Feb 4, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly

wouldn’t have been opposed to a trade before y’all shipped Cole and Norris. I know Harper is untouchable, but I would have taken, at the trade deadline, something like

Rendon, Cole, Solis, Norris, and Ray. That might be a bit much, but it’s has to be a massive overpay in my opinion to force the Pirates hand now.

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Feb 5, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Rendon is untradeable

by rule, and by all common sense.

Rob

--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds

by RobBobS on Feb 5, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

By rule for 1 year

by common sense for until Rizzo decides the birds in the bush are better than the Rendon in his hand…

Brain: "Pinky, are you pondering what i'm pondering?"
Pinky: "Yes, ... wait, ... no, ... never mind"

by jbg2772 on Feb 6, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the NL East might be better than the AL East

Nats, Phillies, Braves, Fish is very close to as good as Yankees, Red Sox, Jays, and Rays.

MOAR SEVERINO!

by jeff550 on Feb 4, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Not yet.

We’re getting there though.

The Mets ARE better than the O’s though. Take THAT, P_McP!!!

Rob

--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds

by RobBobS on Feb 4, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

you talking about poopymcpoop from the WaPo comments section?

by NatsFan18 on Feb 5, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

That's the guy.

Rob

--"Well my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." -- Mal Reynolds

by RobBobS on Feb 5, 2012 7:15 AM EST up reply actions  

NPUT on Desi and Espi's new no.s...

And some guy named LaRoche…

Vivian Jaffe: "Have you ever transcended space and time?"
Albert Markovski: "Yes. No. Uh, time, not space... No, I don't know what you're talking about."

by Patrick Reddington on Feb 4, 2012 6:08 PM EST reply actions  

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