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11/13/07 Washington Nationals Free Agent and Trade Talk...Andruw Jones? Chad Cordero Again?

     I know it probably doesn't mean much to most baseball fans, but then again most baseball fans don't consistently see their team's name followed by a derisive quip whenever it appears in print in the local newspapers, so I'm not sure if anyone would understand the joy I experienced when I opened up the local Newark Star-Ledger's Sports section this morning and found the following on the front page in baseball writer Dan Graziano's "Ready, set...spend" free agency overview, under a column designated "BUYER BEWARE":

          "ANDRUW JONES, CF.

          Horrendous year at the plate likely cost him milllions, but
          he's not far removed from 50-homer season, and he's still
          slick with the glove as anyone.

           BEST GUESS: Dodgers.
           SLEEPER: Nationals."

     That's right, so okay, the column was titled "Buyer Beware" but it appears that the Nationals are being taken seriously in the free agent action this offseason...

      ...If the Nationals are indeed intending to trade The Flat-Brimmed Closer Chad Cordero, it might be interesting to see what the Astros got from the Phillies in return for Brad Lidge and infielder Eric Bruntlett.(Which might, in my opinion, be a step below what the Nationals could offer in Cordero/Felipe Lopez)...

     The Phillies sent:

     1) Michael Bourn -24- OF

          Originally drafted by Houston in '00, not signed, drafted
          again in '03 by the Phillies in the 4th Round(115th).
          Moved from Low-A ball through the Phillies system in 4
          seasons, debuted July 30, 2006.
          2007 stats- .277 BA, 3 doubles, 3 triples, 1 HR, 6 RBI's 8
          stolen bases in 105 games.

     2) Geoff Geary -30- RP

          Drafted by Philadelphia in the 15th Round of the '98
          Amateur Draft. Debuted on August 27, 2003. (13-4) with
          a 3.94 ERA in 216 games, 267.1 IP, 173K's in 5 seasons.

     3) Mike Costanzo -23- 3B

          Philly's 1st Pick in the 2nd Round of the '05 Draft, 65th
          overrall. 2007 stats-Double-AA Reading- .270 AVG, 27  
          HR's, 86 RBI's, 29 doubles, 137 hits.

     Baseball America's writer Chris Klein, in an article entitled, "Top Ten Prospects: Philadelphia Phillies" at baseballamerica.com listed Bourn as the #1 OF prospect in the Phillies organization last January, and listed Mike Costanzo as the "Best Power Hitter" in the organization.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/features/263074.html

     If the Astros were able to bring in two top prospects and a serviceable middle reliever in return for Brad Lidge, a 1st Round pick, 17th overall in '98, whose '07 stats...(age 31, 66 games, 19 saves, 4.39 ERA) are mediocre at best, and infielder Eric Bruntlett, a 9th Round pick in '00, who hit...(age 29, .246 AVG, with 5 doubles, 14 RBI's 34 hits in 138 at bats) in '07, what should the Nationals expect in return for...

          Chad Cordero -25- '07 stats- (3-3) in 75 innings, 62 K's  
          37 saves, 3.36 ERA.

           and

          Felipe Lopez -27- '07 stats- .245 AVG, 9 HR's, 25
          doubles, 6 triples, 50 RBI's, 24 stolen bases.

     Barry Svrluga, in his washingtonpost.com article, "Prospects Remain Dialed In Under Sun" writes that Nationals GM Jim Bowden has his Scouts out west watching the Arizona Fall League, where they can get a look at prospects like:

           "Boston closer Craig Hansen, Seattle catcher Jeff Clement,
           Detroit outfielder Cameron Maybin and Tampa Bay
           infielder Evan Longoria..."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/08/AR2007110801984.html

     Detroit just resigned closer Todd Jones...

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071112&content_id=2298992&vkey=hotstove2007&fe xt=.jsp

     And the Tigers also traded for SS Edgar Renteria...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/10/29/renteria.trade.ap/index.html

     Which pretty much eliminates the need for a closer or shortstop in Rock City, Seattle must be crazy if they're looking for closers with right-hander J.J. Putz (40 saves, (6-1) 1.38 ERA in '07) on their roster, and what does Tampa Bay need with a twenty-five year old closer? Cordero a Ray?

      Which once again turns Nationals fans down a familiar road...The Boston Red Sox have perhaps the best closer in the game, but they are also the kind of free-spending franchise that could afford to have a Chad Cordero-type pitcher as a set-up man for Jonathan Papelbon.

      This isn't first time the Nationals and Red Sox have discussed Cordero either. A January '07 rumor at mlbtraderumors.com reported that:

           "The Nats are fond of pitchers Craig Hansen and Michael
           Bowden, but favor 22 year-old righty Clay Buchholz."

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/01/nats_demand_red.html

      ...but the article also stated the Red Sox thought Nationals GM Jim Bowden wanted too much in return for Cordero. The rumors persisted however, reappearing at the Trade Deadline in Barry Svrluga's washingtonpost.com article, "Trade Cordero? It's an Issue of Getting Value" in which he quotes an unnamed "National League executive" who states:

          "They(the Nationals) should ask for a closer's value for  
          him...But I'm not sure other teams will be willing to pay
          that price for him."

     While Mr Svrluga again mentions the Red Sox interest, he also brings up another disturbing possibility which I've managed to avoid thus far:

          "Mets General Manager Omar Minaya drafted Cordero
          when he held the same position with the Montreal Expos,
          the Nationals' predecessors."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/19/AR2007071902591.html

      ...and those nasty Mets rumors resurfaced and were talked about here at federalbaseball.com just last week...

http://federalbaseball.com/story/2007/11/9/03525/2289#commenttop

Red Sox

Craig Hansen -23- -Closer- 1st Round pick, 26th overall in '05out of St. John's University where he (3-2) with 1.68 ERA and 14 saves in his third year. (2-2) with a 6.59 ERA in 41.0 innings in Majors.

Michael Bowden -20- -Starter- 1st Round pick, 47th overall in '05. (20-12) with a 3.45 ERA in 54 starts throughout Rookie and Double-AA ball. 259 K's to 77 walks in 261 IP.

     ...and the Mets are offering Mike Pelfrey and Carlos Gomez? If the Nationals HAVE TO TRADE CORDERO, at least these are the kind of names being talked about. But really...

Trade the Flat-Brimmed Closer? Why again?...

*GOOD NEWS/BAD NEWS?

The GOOD NEWS first...

SBN Baseball Writer Award Season Record now 3 for 3, as the baseball writers of the SB Nation once again chose the same as the Baseball Writers of America in naming C.C. Sabathia the winner of the AL Cy Young Award today.

The BAD NEWS...

Ryan Zimmerman underwent the second surgery in a week on a broken bone in his wrist after having numbness and swelling after the first procedure was performed last week...still expected to be ready for Spring Training though...*

Read about Zimmerman here...

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071113&content_id=2299932&vkey=news_mlb&fext=. jsp&c_id=mlb

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Minaya drafting Cordero
Minaya was indeed GM of the Expos when Cordero was drafted, but Svrluga's "National's Pastime" (p. 149) said that Tony Arango and Dana Brown (the scouts evaluating Cordero)"came up with a mission: Convince Omar Minaya...to take this kid he'd never seen in the first round, with the twentieth pick overall."  So while Minaya may be interested in Cordero now, I don't think the Expos draft would be as important as what came later.

by arl2 on Nov 14, 2007 6:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Tony and Dana!
I've often stated I have very little inside knowledge of the decision-making roles of each member of a baseball executive staff, but that book sounds like a good place to start, thanks arl.

I agree, of course, that it's not just the drafting of Cordero, but, "what came later" that has Minaya interested. I thought the fact that Cordero had been successful since being drafted was implied amongst Nationals fans. Just kidding. I just phrased it poorly.

Players chosen near Cordero in the 2003 MLB Draft:

19th - Conor Jackson(ARZ)
24th - Chad Billingsley(LAD)
27th - Eric Duncan(NYY)
29th - Carlos Quentin(ARI)
36th - Jarrod Saltalamacchia(ATL)

I wonder who Minaya wanted? Does the book say?

by Ed Chigliak on Nov 15, 2007 12:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Arl
"National Pastime" is a lot of fun as a narrative about the events and personalities of the 2005 Nationals season, and I'd say it's required reading for Nationals fans.  But the decision making roles, like the organization, were not typical.

I guess I'd been puzzled by why you said Minaya's interest acquiring in Cordero might be a reason to hate the Mets.  If a GM identifies a player who can help his team, looking at the possibilities for an acquisition amounts to doing his job.  Now if Bowden sends Cordero to the Mets and didn't get something good in return...that's a different story.  

For my part, within the division, I generally found Mets fans less obnoxious than Phillies fans, and less annoying than Braves fans doing the tomahawk cheer.  Marlins fans are the easiest to deal with, but that may be because there are so few of them.  

by arl2 on Nov 15, 2007 8:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree again...
...with your ranking of the NL East Rival's fans, but I happen to live amongst Mets (and Yankees) fans, so most of my baseball-related-hatred is saved up for those fans I know personally.

The Phillies fans who came to DC were by far the most obnoxious.

...and don't get me started on the "tomahawk chop" from those apathetic-even-in-the-postseason Braves fans...

Minaya would be neglectful if he didn't pursue Cordero. I'm just not sure anyone on their roster is going to have the impact I imagine Cordero having over the next few years...

Lastings Milledge? Philip Humber? Carlos Gomez? Mike Pelfrey?

Who do you like out of those four?

Or Craig Hansen from Boston?

The Top 5 Reasons to hate the Mets, were most of all, just a good excuse to start a rivalry with Mets bloggers and readers heading into '08, so were a but tongue-in-cheek really..

thanks for reading and commenting...

by Ed Chigliak on Nov 16, 2007 1:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Who do I like?
I think the answer is none of the above.  Cordero is an established veteran, a young player with a lot of talent who may still develop further, a reason to stick around for the ninth inning, someone this organization has developed, and one of the faces and personalities of this franchise.  If he's traded, I'm looking for one or several special players where there are no question marks about the contribution to the Nationals.  I don't see the point of trading him for rehab projects or prospects who might help the club next year, especially when we have both other competent relief pitchers available to trade (Rauch in particular) and we have prospects of our own who may not be ready next year, but probably will be ready in 2009.  

by arl2 on Nov 16, 2007 7:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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